Instant Jerk: there's potential but be aware.

I think I am starting to have a special fascination for this IJ fellow. The day I placed my first order i was going through a moment of: “That’s it!” enough of the good nice guy in me. So, Instant Jerk and TUTH loaded my arsenal, among the many other toys. I ordered IJ just based on the smartmones store description: “Fantasy fulfillment for men” it said :slight_smile:

The Jerk end-up sitting there, in the counter, for almost a month and a half because as I started reading the forum all the stories of guys being agressed wearing it start coming to my awareness. At some point I even consider returning it and exchanging it for something else without even opening the bottle.

It was only mikotorocks that constantly made me think about this one with his signature…“don’t let it tame you, tame it”. Then a month ago Metaltree appeared in here and started posting his daily adventures and misadventures with the Jerk. A couple of weeks ago Jeseejester posted about it as well and then M_P started the thread of the underrated products.

So, one day, a Friday, I chose to give it a try. What a heck. If I don’t like the experience I would send the product back and exchange it anyhow.

First Event: 1 spray (chest)

Environment: Coffeshop - Bistro

Effects on-self: I got a 15 minute rush of anxiety and mild “agressiveness”. This evolved into a mild sense of ease and comfortable confidence, though.

Effects on others: The two most significant to report are: waiters were not nice but they weren’t either aggressive. They were just like a little bit uncomfortable. I would have aborted the experiment but the waitress start giving the must amaizing looks and throwing her hair to me each time that she walked by.

i postitioned myself close to the counter as that way I could observe the whole place, wont have many people behind me (I felt like covering my back as I read about someone being attacked from behind while wearing the IJ). Therefore, both waiters and the waitress would constantly come by.

From the distance the waitress will be giving me IOI’s as I have never experienced before, given the quality of them. It was like a vampires kind of look she will constantly give me from the distance: like cheeky mysterious, astute sensual… grrrrr. As well, each time that she approached the counter, she would deviate her sight to the other side as trying to ignore me but would immediately start playing with her hair, turning it with her fingers in a steady circular motion and just the moment she would walk beside me let it go. It was a great discovery.

Second Event: Dancing. 2 sprays - upper chest.

Effects to self: Similar as the above but lasted a bit longer than 15 minutes, barely half and hour and transmuted into the nice ones.

Effects to others: The guy at the door was kind of concerned, as if I seemed threatening. He just babbled the cover price and kept looking at me. When I arrived to the place a very good friend of mine and initial dancing partner was sitting at the bar. She first, kind of avoid me. The owner of the place (a lady as well) seemed not to want to acknowledge my presence (even though usually she greets me in a cheerful friendly way).

I sat for a while, observing and pondering if it should be smarter to leave (I don’t want a to leave a bat impression in that place as I do enjoy being part of that community). A couple of minutes later, I reached out, touch my friend shoulder and greet her. She seemed to react to the smell, either I overdid the cologne to cover it or either she was reacting to IJ.

After that I stood-up, move away from the bar and stare at the dance floor. I was pondering if I should leave by then but I got the first “hit” then. I wouldn’t consider it anything but a respect hit as it came from an older lady. This woman seems to be, or have been, a heavy weight in the social dancing community some years ago. She only pays attention to the expert dancers, all the others might as well be phantoms for her. A lady with a lot of “bitchy” like attitude. i mean this lady ditches men in the middle of the song with no remorse and gentleness. So, here I am standing next to the dance floor and she is sitting in a corner staring at me. The phantom suddenly was and observable body. I thought that was it when suddenly I heard a feminine voice coming from behind. “Wow! You are here! Haven’t see you in a long time!”

To my surprise a younger lady, in my age range, was approaching me. What she had in common with the one mentioned above is nevertheless her reputation of a… you guess it. Yes, a b… I start chatting with her while thinking to myself, no way I am going to dance with this one, not at least my first round. She doesn’t ditch men in the middle of the song but she does put them you down with her looks and gestures if she thinks you are not dancing up to her level.

Note: Please be aware that the social dancing community is a fantastic one here in my city, is just that, like in any community there are some black sheep and here I am being hit by two of them, they are the exception, not the rule. Nevertheless, this makes it more significant as a result of this report.

Still, there she was standing next to me and I could sense how she starting to put out a sexual vibe with her voice and body and giving me the “looks”. OMG!. This is when I noticed how wonderful the self-effects were. I couldn’t care less. So, after a couple of songs, and the two of us standing, SHE asks me to dance! Not only that, she excuses herself even before we go into the dance embrace: “I may not be as good as you anymore” she said.

While we dance, each time that I tried something fancy (which half of the time I miss still) she would APOLOGIZE for not understanding my lead. Meanwhile she will keep flirting and showing meat - boobs. I mean, usually ladies correct their dress not to show meat, this one seem to be aiming for the opposite.

Anyhow, the series of songs were over, the rhythm changed. I ended it with my usual chivalry and that seemed to be the enchantment braking attitude, the bitch came out again. She just smiled, didn’t replied and turned around. Lesson learned. A jerk never excuses himself; hence, he’s a… Jerk. Congruency, congruency, that’s the rule of this phero game, the rule at least that I am learning still.

Once the first hour and a half after application was over, everything was really manageable. My friend’s behavior came back to normality, the owner suddenly smiled to me as normal, etc… The only thing that was different was an interesting increase in my sense of confidence and comfort around ladies. Not that I was not comfortable before, it just felt different, it just felt new, and yes, better.

Reflections: Definitively, this is one of those that I needed to try just once, just one shot and I could totally say this pheros do work.

Maybe there is a correlation with age as the one that happens with IG. It could be affording something for younger men and the opposite to older ones. metaltree, jesee and myself we are over 30. Mikotorocks he is close to the 30 range. Could that have something to do?

Still, even if the above is true. I can totally sense the edge. It can totally help as a good tool in the arsenal but I need to still use it with caution until i really understand it better. Anyhow, I am excited about this one. Even more, I mixed it the other day with an MX that I am fascinated with. This MX has become an attraction MX for me, while others in the forum refer to it as a great social. So, I thought it was worth a try as a buffer or enhancer of Jerk; results: radioactive. Yes, it can enhance the confidence and attraction of IJ in a good way BUT it has to be handled with total care to avoid unintended consequences - just like nuclear power. I am still fine tuning the mix of the two but I did love the results. My concern is there is a “Cinderella” effect; the enchantment brakes after 4 or so hours and what is left is far from desirable. Nothing bad happened but I did notice a shift in peoples responses - I am wondering how to buffer that. Anyhow, I will tell that story, another day.

Vangelis, awesome post! And I’m glad that you are fully aware of how cautious you have to be with IJ.

The aggressiveness you felt is VERY common with high doses of -none, I personally never felt it with Jerk but only felt it with MX305 and a little less with MX306. However, you (or at least I did) become immune to this upon further wear. Did you also notice some anxiety/panic social attack?

I highly suggest always wearing a buffer, just to be safe and to no doubt make you appear more “open.” This is what I mean by “taming,” but of course it also means you taming it by how you control yourself while wearing IJ and are constantly aware of your attitude caused by IJ. Other than that, I suggest Spaceland as a buffer, it’s really great with IJ. You just have to find your specific dose, but then you’ll be good.

IH will also add comfort, and lately I’ve been including this with IJ, A314, Spaceland, and the IH. All to make a mix I personally call Big Balls A’ Plenty LOL.

Great report! 2 Sprays of Instant Jerk is 25 mcg of -NONE and 5mcg of other pheromones. That is definitely over the O.D. level for most guys.

I’m now one step closer to trying IJ. I’ve had it sitting there for quite a while myself… would be good to see more guys near my age with such good results :stuck_out_tongue:

Awesome report!

If I could stand the smell of Spaceland better, I could imagine that would make a great buffer! I have had great success with 2 sprays of Akuto scented Instant Gentleman to 1 spray of Instant Jerk, though.

You can always try 50 mcg of ExperiMone Alphanol Snoopy and just get it neroli/Game/Akuto/Grapefruit scented. However, that might be more expensive.

Spaceland is wicked cheap…it might just be worth it.

Good idea, it’d be worth the cost to me not to smell like a bong shop. Grapefruit scented Alphanol might be interesting to try. Women seem to really enjoy the grapefruit scented MEO-EST that I have. Thanks!

Let me know how that works out. Supposedly Spaceland has some “intensifiers” in it, but ExperiMone might be just as good.

Add IH, and it gets better!

Great report! It took me over 6 mo to try jerk, and since I did it has become one of my favorite products. I actually wanted to use it to test at the places I stopped as I drive cross country, but decided to test MX150 instead. Hmmm, maybe I will break out the jerk for testing tonight. I will either end up in Bakersfield, CA or end the trip in San Fran.

Yea I can vouch for IH, it really makes a huge difference. I used it w/ Jerk & A314, I’ve noticed once you initiate a conversation, girls will get really close and get a little touchy

Thank you all for your feedback. I will certainly be playing with this one more.

My MX272 + IJ experiment results are really interesting but need some buffer as mentioned and some more events to test consistency. I am going out tonight with this one and thinking what to add:

MX138 Liquid Sunshine
IO
IS

or all of the above.

Given the “Cinderella effect” of this mix (the good social stuff seems to vanish after 4 or 5 hours of application leaving you with 25mcg of -none, copulins and god knows what from the MX272) I am thinking I will go for MX138 because I have it in a ToGo MX bottle. The others are 30ml ones.

Maybe I should bring TAA with me, just in case.

Big Balls! sounds like a good mix to me.

I am not sure if Spaceland will help me put out the kind of vibe I am looking for. How would you describe the contribution of Spaceland to the mix? My understanding of Spaceland is that it give you the kind of easy going, careless mood as the one some would get from a good joint.

For the MX/IJ test I would totally consider Instant Honesty (I don’t have it in my arsenal yet, though). Above anything, I would love this IH to help them to put into words what that looks says. I read it something like “are you sure you don’t want to scr… me now”…hmm… sorry, I meant to say scratch my back, now :smiley:. Maybe IH allows for those looks to be expressed in words and get the ball rolling…:slight_smile:

Really?! Have you had this OD? I read in a post of yours that you tried two. If I remember well it was the lady that fall asleep in your arms in the subway as you were moving from one bar to the other.

What do you use MEO-EST for? Would you mix it with IJ?

Yes, two sprays of Jerk (plus the MX272) gave me a fantastic sense of self-confidence. For the porpuse of party and social interaction I am not sure I want to walk the A314 path. I am really considering trying it with Instant Gentelman as it seems more appropriate for that environment. Anyhow, metaltree has experimented with the two of them in the bar scene.

Metaltree, I wonder if you have considered trying IG instead of A314 already?

M_P. It seems that we are all in our 30’s except you. If you have some IJ with you I think you should try at least half-spray and see what you get, and then move to one if it feels safe.

I can tell you from first hand experience that 150 mcg of MEO-EST really does make women very relaxed. Adding P83 or TAC and an Androstenone product steers things in a very happy direction very quickly.

For who, Drew? YOU or the OTHER HALF or BOTH?

On ALL those around you, or JUST YOUR lady, Snoop?

Annnnnnnd what kind of setting were you two in to witness such nawteenesssss … at home, in the car, clubbing, movie, dinner, or all the above?

Grazie! :wink:

I’ll be waiting to see what 292 does with it!

Instant Jerk and MEO-EST anyone? Anyone? Anyone? :smiley:

I’ve tried that combo with P83 at a party. Lets just say that it was a very good evening that ended the next morning. :slight_smile:

Men were trying to be my wingman and women were trying to figure out why I was too hip for the room. I got a lot of positive rock star type attention from it. It seemed to bring out the tiger in the more alpha females and the women who were more shy (in one on one) interactions were MUCH more forward than they’d normally be.

Try it, you’ll like it!

For the record I have MEO-EST at 50 mcg per spray (I have it in Grapefruit scent) and I used 3 sprays of MEO-EST 1 spray to each side of the neck and one split between the wrists. I let it dry and then I put 2 sprays of 25 mcg per spray P83 on either side of my neck. Followed by 1 spray of Instant Jerk to the back of the neck.

I felt ten feet tall and bulletproof. It was great. :cool:

Hey Vangelis, people tend to get that effect with up to 4 or 5 (even 6) sprays of Spaceland, but for my IJ mixes/buffering I have only gone up to 2. In the beginning I used to use 4 to even 5 sprays of Spaceland with IJ, but now I think that’s overkill for IJ as I think it buffered it too much since it’s 50 mcg we’re talking about here, and we want to keep that edge IJ gives so 2 sprays of Spaceland has been pretty good for me thus far (but I did still get good results when I was using that much Spaceland with IJ.) It also still gives you a pretty laid back feeling, but not to the point where users feel “dizzy.” Well, at least with me.