So my regular workday combo consists of 2-3 Instant Shine:2 CTTM2b:1 Instant Openness:2 Ammunition:2 A314:2 Chikara.
Returned home late from work (I am enhanced, but no doubt fading since the morning application). Time to explore some of the unopened bottles in my closet. Hmm, Instant Jerk. So 2 sprays of this. Supplement with 1 TUTH, 2 Instant Female Magic, 1 Instant Sexiness, 1 Impi and 1 more Instant Shine for good luck. If I must be a Jerk, I shall be a (romantically successful) Jerk with Polish.
Repair to my local (fancy) sushi place, where they know me well. Extra solicitous treatment from the waiting staff - both manageresses very chatty and touchy. I go there a few times a month, so I’m pretty sure this is significantly more friendly than normal. Appearance a mess - hair all over the place and look very tired.
Too many variables to infer much from this (changed vs normal this time is Jerk + Sexiness), but so far it seems like Jerk does not work too badly for me.
Unlike -none, it’s one of those pheromones you can get away with wearing lots and lots of.
I haven’t done a ton of testing on it myself, so I couldnt’ give you any first hand experience reports, but I know there’s a bit of discussion about it around here!
Quirk, I knew you weren’t letting that much none run loose, free to assault all in its path! I knew there was a buffer! I just knew it!
And a good buffer it was, too!
I know your work mix must deteriorate into something wonderful, because I know that the 10-hour-later afterglow of Instant Shine is still ticking away to make things wonderful around you.
Your romantically successful Jerk with polish experiment seemed to work out nicely! I’m still surprised to see it have favorable results with so much none!
So hmm.. What element of your mix do you feel most caused the results you listed? I emphasize "feel"ing, because that’s how I usually comprehend my mixes… ie, I can feel the TAH in Instant Sexiness and can feel whether I need to add more or less at any given moment. Likewise, I feel I can pick out molecules in a mix based on their shades/intensity of feeling… Does that make sense? Do you notice feeling each molecule’s flavor separately?
Tried another variation recently at a Karaoke evening. Regular work mix (as above) + 25mcg TAF refreshed with fresh Instant Shine x2 + Impi x2 + Instant Jerkx1+ TUTHx1 + 2 more Instant Openness + 1 Instant Honesty + 2 more CTTM + 50 mcg TAK + 150mcg TAC + 3 IFM + Instant Sexiness + 20mcg beta dienol+ 25mcg TAF (again)= Instant Royalty.
No scary aspect at all. Only one glass was broken, and that was probably par for the setting. No neurotic chattiness. No compulsive truth-telling. I didn’t feel the urge to kick any puppies. Just a lot of respect amidst good times.
I can’t say enough good things about Shine. Possibly there is a time when it would be wrong to wear, but I haven’t found one yet.
Me too. I’m probably intermediate in ability to wear high none doses. I can’t bathe in it without scaring small children and causing dropped crockery, but when in a good mood can seem to channel medium-high doses along more of a gentlemanly than terrrifying direction.
I certainly do notice the different flavours. I think Instant Sexiness was a large part of the feel-good aspects of it, and what encouraged the waitresses to be so chatty. I’m still getting acquainted with the nuances of TAH but overall felt relaxed, contented, at peace with the world, ‘bien dans ma peau’, energy channeled outward, wanting to make other people feel good.
I’m still getting to grips with TAC and don’t have anything to add beyond what Tacitus has said.
Beta dienol I would need to test more systematically. Regrettably I haven’t so many opportunities to do so at this juncture.
I suppose there were copulins in the Instant Sexiness and Instant Jerk. I was relieved to find they did not make me invisible as did OD on PCC on other occasions.
TAK I picked deliberately as a buffer and I think it did its job well. I don’t think too much TAK is the right thing for a party environment (perhaps okay for a small dinner and if you need to calm somebody down) but 50 mcg seemed about right, or at least not too high.
IFM no doubt helped but does not on its own in my experience offset the intimidating aspects of none.
Aha! Thank you! (I’ll take that compliment to the chief. Shine’s his baby)
I’m sure since you’ve had it for a while you’ve tried it in high and low doses, medium doses, under the noses-doses, on the feet doses, sprinkled on the kitty doses, in the dry cleaning solvent doses (which would be such a fun thing to do if you owned a laundromat, hah!)…
The REAL -none test would be to hang out with me for a day and see if I rip your head off. I’ve been known to bare fangs at minuscule doses. Or find an exclusively breastfeeding mother and see how she reacts. Like I Was saying in another post, -none guys are the exact opposite of what she’d naturally need at that tender time, so she’s probably extra sensitive to anyone bearing that signature.
When my guy friends have used Instant Sexiness they turn into women! Well, not heel wearing lipstick smacking women or anything, but they do flippantly jog through life, act ditzy and cute, forget things and all the cover models on supermarket fashion magazines catch their eye more than usual. Haha, and nudge MHarris to spill his experiences wearing ISexiness. When he told me his effects i shot milk from my nose.
At what point does TAK get to be “not the right thing”? And what have you noticed it do to people… or how does it change the group dynamic for you, do you think?
Ifm… none… hmmm.
Karaoke parties! now you’re speaking to my soul. Don’t drop the K word, because I immediately find a table to stand on and belt out anything originally belted from the mouths of Steve Perry or Freddie Mercury. Journey and Queen. That’s just the way I do things around here.
last week I was out on a schoolnight. decadent vintage dress-code evening favoured by the fashionista set and those around them.
i’m at the bar ordering a drink and this black dude taps me on the shoulder and says ‘I just had to see your face’. your skin is so smooth and you are obviously very very rich.
now i see him with a couple of girls later on that evening and pretty sure he is straight. i’m wearing a brioni jacket, but it’s the first time in london anybody has noticed and said anything. and i’m not rich at all, particularly by london standards.
Have yet to verify through experimentation. But sometimes you want people to be intimidated and thrilled by you, dammnit. I fear TAK might take that away.
Care to elaborate?
I had another fun evening with IJ, IS, Impi, TAK and TAC over my regular work combo today. Nothing new to report as yet however.
V curious to know what is in IJ beyond None.
London is v cosmopolitan. Three categories of singers on the Karaoke box. Chinese, Hong Kong and ‘Other’
Jerk also includes copulins. Some other stuff too. I can’t say way too much. Less than 6 pheromones total.
Basically, what would a real-life jerk would smell like? -None’s an obvious must. A smidge of copulins gives him another dimension of social proof. There’s stuff in there to speak his mind, 'cause jerks tend to be noisy.
OH i could never function in a place where Journey and Queen weren’t 2/3 of the categories. You deprived Londoners, you.
I have been experimenting with IJ. Note I have gone out to bars completely sober to carefully analyse the result of IJ. Here are some conclusions:
IJ = Marlon Brando (esp. like in Streetcar Named Desire). It has the same effect on you - super sexual bad boy effect. That guy must be the man from Pheromone. But if you can control it, not lose control of your emotions and temper, be fun, confident and happy as you usually are, this will get you noticed big time by the 10s (I went to a Brazilian night at a local bar so there were lots of 10s). But be warned, it is ultra difficult to not behave like a jerk with this stuff and it takes some practice.
Your male friends will almost be attracted to you and behave like women with you. The copulins I guess attract them. However if you can put up with the shit and aggressive behaviour that comes with it (when they realise your a guy!), you will be treated as the leader. My advice is, be calm, collected and tollerate no disrespect and you will get past this. It will confuse them actually.
You will notice women giving you blatent sexual attention. I mean grinding, rubbing on you. Full on stares that you kind of get when you look at chicken wings before eating them. I had a girl come up to me at the end of the night and ask me who I was like she had been building it up all night. I could see it in her face as she asked me. Note - I have never experienced this behaviour before without making an effort and ‘manually’ building attraction. Even then, not as powerful as this. In fact I pretty much said nothing all night and just relaxed on the bar. Basically a reversal of roles. Be warned, this is not for the meek but will improve a PUAs success dramatically in bars/clubs.
It will envoke a range of emotions in women which will switch drastically. You will see women laughing with you, to then squinting their eyes like they want to kill you, to getting too close for comfort. All this being my usual self. You must not be phased by this and just carry on talking like everything is normal.
Do not use it during the day. You will unleash hell on the civil world literally. I had 50 year old business men sitting next to me on a train behaving like a group of 10 year olds. Women also tend to run a mile, because it is not usual for them to be so sexually attracted midday. You will bring the psycho out in the most normal of people and may end up dead.
In conclusion, I would say using this product takes an already established strength of mind. Otherwise it will screw you over big time and you will do worse then when you weren’t using it. Perfect for someone who has done some PUA stuff and understands what is going on in the social/sexual process. You must be able to handle the effects on you and on other people. Otherwise start with the other products first.
In a way, this kind of accelerates your learning of women and the social scene. If you can handle the negative effects without breaking down, it will build confidence.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention. Do go anywhere near babies with this stuff. A baby on the tube started crying and screaming extremely loud and went bright red. Mother was very confused and I am never going to wear it again during the day.
That is a strong product. Probably to strong for me, although it is something for me to try it once (people see mee as a super nice guy, totally opposite of a jerk) Is it possible that you even out the effects a little bit with other products (like Instant Gentleman)
I used it with IO and IS but only two spays of each. It may have had an effect, but I personally think IJ overpowers it by quite a bit.
I have tried IJ without the two spays IO and IS and it seemed to just envoke only agression in men around me. With women it was pure sexual attraction. It is quite amazing to see what that really looks like as opposed to the look of attraction given towards boyfriend material or guys they want attention from. They just look plain straight at you in almost a rough, come-grab-me kind of way. I freaked out.
Although with the IS and IO it broadend the range of women showing initial interest, but only a select few would do more. Those ovulating or whatever. For the others the IJ was probably too strong.
Maybe try a lot (4+) of IO and IH with it to see the results. I feel it does need to be toned down somehow using the other products. Also keep it away from face so you are not affected so much by it. Like you I am normally viewed as a nice guy. This changes things completely - you and the world become a different person.
Awesome insightful, informative post - have some reputation…
Couple of questions if I may - how tall are you, ethnicity, build? Do you normally have pretty strong body language? Are you normally quiet or talkative? Lone wolf or gregarious? How many sprays did you use?
How much exposure have you had to 'none previously? (I ask because it seems to me that one builds a tolerance over time to the effects of most mones).
I think this is very true of mones in general. Like the difference between astronomy and chemistry - by being able to play around with some parameters one can develop a much better sense of what is actually going on wrt social dynamics.
I’ve been known to bare fangs at minuscule doses. Or find an exclusively breastfeeding mother and see how she reacts. Like I Was saying in 