IJ doesn’t actually make anyone a Jerk IMHO. It allows me, a nice guy, to continue along the same course I do, but to be perceived as the bad boy. Its not the girls who date the bad boy types that label them Jerks, its usually the nice guys standing on the side-lines, watching a man with value and boundaries whose willing to walk away from her and not take any crap, that say he’s a jerk. The girl the labeled Jerk is with, appreciates him for treating her as a person, an equal in a relationship and not putting her beauty on a pedestal. She sees a man and so do other women and guys who are in the know.
The real Jerk is the manipulative guy who whines and bends his will to whatever she wants. Will buy her drinks and flowers, take anything she throws at him and then wonders why she is with such a jerk.
IJ allows me to be that guy who is labeled the Jerk by the guy not getting any and the bad-boy she wants.
What you described sounds like a personality makeover. Does IJ actual have any sexual arousal side effects from the none? I mean is it just that it makes you act like bad boy whose untamed or does it cause women to get wet down there ?
That’s what I mean when I say people misunderstand it because of the products name.
I think its sort of a bad boy vibe but its still lacking something there. I think it was more bad boy when it had copulins in it. IJ doesn’t really have that mysterious quality of a true bad boy. Of course you could bring that to the table naturally though.
Actually thats a guys perception of a jerk. Its not how females see a jerk. We see what you described as weak but not necessarily as a jerk.
I know your asking Steve but being a women who has been exposed to both the old and new IJ I would say yes its arousing but no it doesn’t get you wet. I think A314 has more ummm… wetting power then IJ LOL
Ahh LOL very good. Like I said I talk what I know about
How could that be, A314 has little to no none in it. How could it have wetting power unless its being applied on guys who are naturally high in none (20 year olds etc or the exceptions)?
Could it be that INDIRECTLY a man acts like a stud and that turns on a woman sexually? I find a314 at 1 spray ok, but any more and I am too standoffish. I get people literally running away from me. Perhaps because I am naturally not a TELL YOu WHAT TO DO person. Also the situation I got extreme standoffishness is when I had some very alpha (6’3" 260 lbs) guys I tried to play an alpha around with and I’m like 5’9" and 180.. Doesn’t work well.
Ok well thanks for your opinion. I am wearing 2 sprays of gentlemen and 1 spray of jerk as I write this post. Perhaps you can tell me if I’m coming across as a jerk in this message or just pretty much “tell it like it is” talk.
A314 has nothing to do with acting like a stud or your size. Its a aura of power and strength. Not physical strength but strength of character. That power can turn a women on very quickly. TUTH just makes you horny not necessarily for the user although if your wearing something like Ishine or IO with it, it will draw them in and help attract more to you. That’s why TUTH is better in one on ones and people who have a basic comfort and attraction for you already.
A314 is sexy, its masculine, powerful, awe inspiring and it can leave a girls knees weak. Its normal for people to react standoffish towards the Alpha in the room. People tend to hover around them but dont approach unless the alpha gives them cues to approach so you have to work the vibe a bit. They are looking for you to take the lead and they follow.
I have been around TUTH IJ and A314. Some of my friends at work use them. I will try to describe the feeling.
TUTH just makes me hot and fidgety with this needy sort of feeling. Sexual needy not emotional needy. Not necessarily for the guy wearing it but my husband will thank you for my mood if he knew where it came from. LOL
IJ intrigues me, peeks my curiosity a bit, grabs my attention, its arousing but like TUTH that feeling is not always something I want to spend on the target.
Important… Now please dont get me wrong I am not saying IJ and TUTH cant attract. If you have other things going for you that are attractive they can both be very powerful at giving you a edge with a girl and moving things forward in a intimate direction. Plus wearing the socials help to.
A314 can make my knees rubbery especially on a man whose body language and confidence mirror the vibe. I get um… jeez i cant believe I am telling you this LOL :o I get this funny hollow tingle feeling in the uterus area that I just want to fill with what I am looking at (snort) That feeling of warmth and tingle then spreads out in all directions till it reaches your brain and suddenly the nervous aroused excitement hits. Then you get wet.
My girlfriends describe it similar and when it hits them, natural vibe or A314. If am there this is when they lean over and say "oh my god, he’s coming this way …dont look… Oh my god do I look OK ???..dont look… He is so hot… Do you think he likes me… then he walks on by and she sighs.
Now if he had took the lead just a little and turned and looked at her while he was walking by and made eye contact and gave a little wink or grin she would have fainted dead away and I would be having to convince her to approach him.
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I noticed you said spray, have you tried the oil ? I think its better then the spray frankly. I got the spray for my son and he likes the oil better. He said its more of a slow inner power seduction and the spray is more smack them upside the head power seduction LOL
My oldest used A314 at school and it was hard for him to pick up the vibe at first until I pointed out how since he has been using it every girl in the neighborhood keeps walking by the house giggling like crazy hoping to get a glimpse of him and hoping he will say something to them. One day he did and one actually squealed. But she grabbed her stomach right over that spot I was talking about. The stuff works LOL
Best thing you can do when wearing A314 is learn to speak with your body. You may be a little closed without even knowing it and if your signaling that with your body but giving off the Alpha vibe people will be standoffish.
Look up power, dominant and the greeting, open and relaxed ones. Just learn a couple at a time and make sure your congruent with them. After a few times practicing it becomes automatic just like when you learned to say mama.
Nope you not being a jerk. Its not easy to describe a vibe its kinda like asking someone what the color blue looks like. God I hope you over 18 or I will feel like a dirty old women (snort). Oh and I just wanted to say that 5’8 and 180 pounds may not seem big to you whe your comparing yourself to other guys but to a girl who is 5’4 to 5’6, 100 to 130 pounds its big. Remember we are looking at you from a different perspective.
Actually I know you were talking to Tish but I’m gonna chime in with a few things.
First…we really don’t know how much none is in A314, store description says its a very small amount, yet posts from MHarris seem to imply it may be as much as a 20/80 ratio of none to rone, which at 23 mcg per drop is a decent amount of none.
Secondly, you’re looking at this all wrong if you assume a product HAS to have none in order to be sexy or sexual. None may be the most OVERTLY sexual mone, but not the only one that CAN be. That’s like implying that a guy can’t get a woman turned on unless he’s obviously very muscular and cut like some chippendales dancer. And we all know that’s not the case. In fact Tish very accurately describes the type of effects I get with A314.
You dont tingle in your tummy do you ??? LOL Just teasing, I know your talking about my other description.
RAD brings up a excellent point. We often talk about how arousing anone products are. They are more sexual in vibration but this by no means that you cant take even a social mones like Ishine and turn it sexual just with your own pure qualities. Sometimes all it takes is something like shine to make them feel all warm and cozy to push them over into arousal because you naturally aroused them to some extent already. They are just more willing to act on it.
I think I’ll start experimenting with some more A314 body language changes.
I’ve never been alpha my whole life. perhaps a vibe that gives a softer presence but still signals sexuality is what would suit me better.
I used to like shine all by itself, it got women approaching me but self effects wore off too quickly. If only I could get the self effects from shine all the time I would stick to that product alone like glue.
Get Ishine in its highest concentration. I think they have it as high as 2X.
Get some lotion, any kind will do I use Shea myself. It can be scented or not its up to you.
Put a blob of lotion in your palm then spray 2 or 3 sprays of Ishine into it. Mix it up with your finger then apply the lotion all over, chest arms neck.
Then use a spray or two over that. I find the lotion slows the diffusion of the Ishine you put in it and makes it last longer. As the day wears on you do some sweating even if you dont notice it. Everyone does its how we regulate temperature, The Ishine secretes from the upper epidermis as the day progresses. The sprays you applied over the lotion application are for the first couple hours.
Another option is to use mineral or grape seed oil and put some in your palm and do the same thing.
Oh and you dont have to go totally Alpha, like I said just adopt some of the body language your comfortable with. Thats why I left the link. That along with A314 should move you more into that vibration. The key is not to change who you are or to act as if, its to make sure you not acting like your not.
What spray version of A314 are you wearing? Which is hugely important
I find, and reported as such, vast differences between the oil which is slow, smooth and consistent over hours, than the spray - Which IS in your face. They are just not the same IMHO
Get Ishine in its highest concentration. I think they have it as high as 2X.
–> 2x TYPO?
Get some lotion, any kind will do I use Shea myself. It can be scented or not its up to you.
Put a blob of lotion in your palm then spray 2 or 3 sprays of Ishine into it. Mix it up with your finger then apply the lotion all over, chest arms neck.
Then use a spray or two over that. I find the lotion slows the diffusion of the Ishine you put in it and makes it last longer. As the day wears on you do some sweating even if you dont notice it. Everyone does its how we regulate temperature, The Ishine secretes from the upper epidermis as the day progresses. The sprays you applied over the lotion application are for the first couple hours.
Another option is to use mineral or grape seed oil and put some in your palm and do the same thing.
–> I will try slower diffusing the shine but like I said its effects on ME is what I liked best. If other people like me but I’m kinda not up to the extroverted role it doesn’t help much.
Oh and you dont have to go totally Alpha, like I said just adopt some of the body language your comfortable with. Thats why I left the link. That along with A314 should move you more into that vibration. The key is not to change who you are or to act as if, its to make sure you not acting like your not.
–> Yes no matter how good a product is congruency is key otherwise they don’t work. I’m finding it easier to buy products that are congruent with my true nature than trying to act out different extreme roles with a zillion products like a schizoprenic.
No its not a typo I said I “think” they have it as high as 2X because I didnt look in the store. I figured you would see when you got there. I just looked and they have 4X so thats even better. I have it in 2X 4X and 8X.
Man Tisha, between you and Steve I really do appreciate the time and effort you guys put into giving back knowledge to this community.
There are a great many posters who I know if I begin to name I’ll forget and possibly offend someone, but you guys just stand out.
This thread is one I’m bookmarking because I have learned a ton about congruency and what it is a woman is looking for, and some Heloise type hints about mixing IS into lotion..I’ve used lotion on my neck and other areas before applying mones, but never thought about spraying it directly into the mix.
Thx again to the both of you…I sure hope you get back 10x’s what you put into this community.
I think I get what Steve is saying here. I have and have had tons of guy friends that are self proclaimed nice guys. What stands out about them as much if not more than their willingness to go above and beyond the call of friendship for attractive female friends, was their tendency to gripe, bitch, moan and complain to me and anyone else that would listen about how women all want jerks and assholes and that women must be inherently masochistic to keep dating these guys while “nice guys” like themselves go home alone and frustrated.
One guy for example, E a few years ago bought a dozen roses each for several of our female coworkers on Valentines day. Now we all know a dozen on that day can run around 4 bucks a pop and he dropped 6 of those at the office. He insisted that he was just being a nice guy because not everyone has a SO for V day. I pointed out that neither myself nor another male coworker has GF’s at the time and he didn’t do anything nice for us. Which he dismissed as guys being different, which I conceded. But when I pointed out that 2 of the 6 girls that he bought roses for DID in fact have boyfriends to get them gifts on V day, but 3 girls that did not get roses from him were single, but also less than what would be considered attractive. Why don’t those girls deserve to get some flowers on Vday?..That’s the thing about being a “nice guy” it’s rarely the truth. What the title allows is a degree of self deception, nobody wants to believe that they’re desperate enough to try and manipulate women into liking them romantically so it’s not a manipulation tactic…it’s being nice, but it almost always has unspoken strings attached to it.
When E did finally get a GF, she was not very attractive (not trying to sound cruel but you’ll see where I’m going with this) She was also very emotionally needy and clingy. I witnessed several occasions where we would hang out as a group of friends (she was a bit of an outsider not knowing the rest of us very well at first) and whenever he would get a call or text from a “more attractive” female that he was in the friendzone with and he was orbiting he would excuse himself to go hang with the other friend and leave his GF alone with our group. He was with her simply because it was better than being single to him but he was always hoping for the bigger better deal and as I said, complaining when all his “selfless” acts of charity and giving got him nothing in the way of sex or relationships.
It’s weak, but it’s also ultimately a display of selfishness and ulterior motives…motives that will inspire feelings of bitterness and resentment in the male when his actions are not reciprocated.
The nice guys call other guys jerks because the other guys garner success with women and relationships without having to treat the woman as if her value was higher than his.
And yeah, imo that does make you a jerk…if you were truly as nice as you like to try and convince yourself to be, knowing you did something nice for another person would be it’s own reward and it rarely is, women would be treated like gold across the board and not dependent on their value to you as a potential mate. You’re expecting something for your “niceness” it’s rarely as selfless as you’d want everyone to think…it’s manipulation and that IS pretty jerky/assholish behavior.
Steve is not describing a nice guy either, weak and nice are two different things. I agree with you though… there are a lot of self proclaimed nice guys who have no ideal what being a nice guy really is and just do so to manipulate people. Those guys are jerks in the literal sense. Its not the jerk vibe though. A nice person treats everyone nice regardless of outside influence.
Women dont see nice guys as weak either. That’s also a male perspective and there is nothing wrong with that if your trying to understand male thinking and attract males, however your trying to figure out women. I know plenty of nice guys who are not weak. I know plenty of nice guys who are Alpha males. Nice is not a bad word.
The reason nice guys dont usually get the girl is the same reason guys dont always go for the nice girl. Its simple… there is no mystery or excitement in it. A guy who is just a “nice guy” lacks something. Sorry Steve your not a nice guy at least not a full fledged one you got a little naughty going on. LOL
I have to change my opinion somewhat and say… (I know shocking isn’t it LOL) … The “jerk vibe” like Steve says is different then being weak or being a literal jerk but it does have a bad boy thing going. The jerk vibe that the formula gives off creates just what Steve described. A naughty bad boy vibe that women find fascinating. It brings out the naughty side of us, the side we are conditioned to hide. Its like the apple eve ate, you know it may be bad for you but you just cant resist it… you have to find out why its bad for you. With wearing the Jerk formula you get the best of both worlds a naughty nice guy.
I will say I still think the old formula was naughtier but the new one is still good. They should have named it Naughty Rogue or Rowdy Boy (snort)
The day I wore Instant gentleman ( 2 sprays) and 1 spray jerk I got positive results.
However , I had a hard time being congruent because I have a soft voice.
The next day I wore jerk by itself and lets just say it made me sort of slow in thinking, not to mention a prick. Others also treated me like a prick.
Finally I tried 2 sprays jerk with instant gentlemen and I was ghosted.
I think I’ll go back to using the product with 1 spray jerk and 2 shots gentlemen.
When using IJ with gentleman at a dosage that worked I didn’t become a jerk, just a more confident man who was less afraid to cold approach women.
Also some women were giving me extended eye contact, others were giving me dirty looks, but it seems it didn’t make me feel any less self esteem. It was like I thought the ones giving me dirty looks needed a good sensual spanking on the butt to have some manners taught to them.
There you go see, sometimes you just have to fool around with your mixes to find the combo that fits and enhances you. Its a perfect example of how we all differ and pheromones are not one size fits all.
This above is how I use to before AD. I haven’t tried IJ yet but I think I may give it a try. 2 sprays of (Alpha A314 spray 1.23b) has been a hit as for as respect goes everyone listens to me, laughs at my jokes, gives me Hi 5’s, man hugs, everyone asks for my advice.
I’m wondering can Instant Jerk be used with A314 to really take me to that next level as for as it goes with the ladies? I noticed a lot of ladies being friendly with me and complimenting me on how good I look which was nonexistent before mones.
I think that’s true to a certain extent (guy goes for naughty girl instead of nice girl). I think most guys long for the naughty girl but don’t really understand how to stay with or keep a naughty girl. It’s an interesting phenomenon.
Case in point – I have a friend who bragged and bragged to me about this hot firecracker girl with whom he somehow found himself in a relationship. He loved the naughtiness…when they were alone! He found himself, however, fighting to control her sexy impulses when they were out in the crowd.
We all go out to Fat Tuesdays in Cozumel. We had a great day and wanted to get some drinks and dance it up before boarding the ship to our next destination. Everyone is dancing and having a good time and she decides to jump up on the bar and give the world a cross between Coyote Ugly and a mini striptease. It was actually kinda cool, she wasn’t technically removing her clothing and she also got the bartenders involved in her “show”.
Needless to say, just about every guy in the joint was hollering and ogling but instead of my friend taking in the moment like a “yeah, she’s hot and she’s going home with me”, he kept trying to grab her arm and pull her down. Apparently five billion pair of eyes on your girl all of the sudden makes you a wee bit apprehensive.
Well, gentlemen, what do you want? The nice girl that wouldn’t even do something like that in her dreams or the girl with a naughty streak that’s capable of giving everyone in the joint a rise at once?
A lot of guys say they want a naughty girl but when push comes to shove, they are in no position to actually keep her. They try to tame the fire and she gets bored. No need to guess what happens next.
Does IJ actual have any sexual arousal side effects from the none? I mean is it just that it makes you act like bad boy whose untamed or does it cause women to get wet down there ? 
But she grabbed her stomach right over that spot I was talking about. The stuff works LOL
Just teasing, I know your talking about my other description.
