IO + NONE PURE GOLD, Continuation

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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Continuing with this History (mind you not story) I can tell you that I have known for quite some time that my wife (main reason for trying mones again) have reacted negatively to some the most popular pheros like IS , A314, P93 and AMMO also I have noticed that she is quite attracted to residual (she is normally repelled by the freshly applied molecules) high None based products like TUTH and IJ, specially on days I had combined it with CTTM, this findings steered me in the direction of a none based signature scent, my problem was None with what? CTTM was great for home but was only giving me OK results at work.

So far I knew my every day signature was going to be an androstenone based one, also I did not wanted to over mix to avoid the danger of sending confusing signals, it had to be simple and it needed to say PAY ATTENTION NOW. For a while in the early months of using pheros I got cod up like everyone else in an effort to find the magic formula that would drop every panty as I went by and soon enough I realized that it does not exist (at least right now) therefore, I decided to go with a self improvement plan and a long term exposure signature. To that end a year ago I started a physical training plan, made a deal with my 3 lady friends at work where they help me improve my social skills and in exchange I teach them advance Office software and technical stuff and launched on the search for that phero signature to go with all the other changes I’ve been making. So far I have lost 30 pounds going from a waist 38 to 33, almost completely changed my wardrobe and find myself a lot more comfortable interacting with people in different settings. In regards to the phero signature I tried the following combinations (and the results) with a 2:2 ratio:

TUTH + IS = OK at work, not good at home
TUTH + IH = No good for me at home or work
TUTH + A314 = OK at work, really bad at home
TUTH + CTTM = OK at work and home

AMMO + IS = GOOD at work, BAD at home
AMMO + IH = OK at work, BAD at home
AMMO + A314 = OK at work, BAD!!! At home
AMMO + CTTM = GOOD at work, BAD at home
(My wife really hated AMMO)

IJ + IS = GOOD! At work, SO SO at home
IJ + IH = this combo did not work for me, kind of conflicting signals
IJ + A314 = Good at work, Terrible at home
IJ + CTTM = GOOD! At work and home

Then in January I decided to try IO (which I did not like during my sweet spot testing) and at the same time did something unexpected, after the first results IO + MX330 switched to make IO the foundation of the combo I was building with the following results:

IO + MX330 = GREAT! OUTSTANDING at work and home
IO + IJ = OUTSTANDING really GREAT! At work, QUESTIONS at home
IO + AMMO = GREAT at work, BAD at home
IO + TUTH = OUTSTANDING at work, ACTION at home

I really was not impressed by IO at the beginning, I got a TOGO with my very first order, tested it and after the bottle was gone I did not get anymore for a year, looking back it was a big mistake my brain was not trained then to recognize the subtle responses it brings, I could see clearly the reactions to IJ, or TUTH, or AMMO but, when it came to the socials I had no clue. A lot have changed in the last 6 months since my 3 friends had been working with me to improve my interpersonal relations and also by seeing their reactions to my phero cloud (yes, they do get affected and react to it), which have teach me about what to look for.

I really have to tip my hat to AD for the consumer line of products, if you really take the time to learn how to use them you wouldn’t even need to buy Putatives or MX products, I said need to, buy them for the fun of testing and discovery. A few things that I have learned and keep getting reinforced by experience is that IF YOU DON’T WORK ON YOUR PERSONALITY, PHEROS WON’T HELP YOU MUCH, also IF YOU BEHAVE WITH CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF (TRUE FEELING OF SELF WORTH AND NOT JUST ATTITUDE) POSITION YOURSELF AS A LEADER AMONG YOUR PIERS MANY ALPHA FEMALES WILL LOWER THEIR DEFENSES AND THE BETA WILL HAVE NO DEFENSES, in reality they will still have the restrictions society imposes in all of us I was referring to their B-SHIELDS.

Now a few samples of combos and reactions I got:

1.- IO + IJ + P83 (10mcg spray) at 2:2:3; A Director Lady in my office asking my advice on a labor law issue, very close (almost breathing on my neck) we are looking at my PC screen, she comes around to be in front of me again and start fixing her blouse collar, I can see her legs squirming and she starts pulling her blouse down over her crotch every 5 seconds, I ask her something wrong? She answers “no nothing, I don’t know all of the sudden I am feeling a little wet… SORRY, a little NERVOUS!!” Like Visa it was priceless.

2.- My co-worker that used to mock fight me started to keep a distance of 3 feet (at least) from me whenever we interacted, I ask her why and she said ‘I felt like a boil if you get too close” and then turned scarlet red (after I tested P78 we are back to normal personal space, but won’t reel in)

3.- With the clumsy hot lady above (TO ANSWER M&M) 2 IJ + 2 IO + 3 P78 10MCG PER SPRAY + ¼ TO ½ SPRAY OF P79 ON ME BY MISTAKE.

4.- Friday I was wearing 2 IO + 2 IJ + 3 P78 + I was in excellent mood, I did not get a bar of my favorite candy bar, I GOT A WHOLE BAG!!!

Well, I also tested during this time to test P78, P91, P102, P103, P96 and TAC, reports will be coming soon.

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Hey, these are great! I like the X+Y approach you took to mixing your -none and socials. It seems like you tried every combination. Your office seems like a great testing environment. Let me ask you- why do you think your wife is negatively affected by -none?

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Looks like it’s the scent, E … cause she likes IJ:CTTM2 & IO:TUTH.

I know the MX is in a TO-GO bottle, but the others?

IF I may, how old is the wifey, FT?

Tankya!

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That’s what I was thinking, but the rejection of A314 seemed a bit out of place when sized up next to larger doses of -none. Probably a case of not wearing cologne much before wearing pheromones!!

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If there’s any truth to the CYCLE THEORY, he could have caught her at a bad time, too. CAPTAIN COCK is not appreciated at that time, right?

Wonder what he means by BAD AT HOME. :confused: I think he should explain each RESULT FINDING, to cut out the guess work. :smiley:

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@M&M: LOL! Captain Cock :slight_smile:. Now that’s funny stuff.

I like your perceived thought processes. Taking the time to get acclimated with the Instant line does take a little effort, but oh man, when you get it, you really are getting it, whatever IT may be :wink:. So many of us guys and dolls always want to take the quickest, shortest path to the success jar, we actually skip right over the success. I read somewhere once (and its stuck with me ever since) that there will always be the guys who gripe, say oh that’s not for me, I can’t do that, it doesn’t work in my scenario. They’re all excuses and are so easy to make. The guy who just gets it done, the guy who might read a book and while everything indeed might not fit his particular set of circumstances will still only focus on what does and make that happen. He will never say oh that part doesn’t work, what he will do is say this part does work and I’m doing it.

It’s threads and posts just like yours that show that extra effort one might put into themselves to make it happen. The guy who goes the extra distance to do whatever it takes. I congratulate you on finding what works for you and even though it might seem like it took a long time, when improving yourself time is all you have anyway.

I’ve sat around and said it myself to many times that I just didn’t have the time to improve something in my life that would ultimately improve myself. How ridiculous is that really?

Seriously a great thread and I really hope it inspires some members to slow down and take their time, Discover what works, how it works, why it works and then make the absolute best of that. Life is full of little successes that make it all the while. If you’re only looking for the big picture, you are missing all the little pieces that makes it up.

Great post and again I’m super glad you recognized this :slight_smile:

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Thanks Evolver, see my search was for something permanent like you would do when trying to find a cologne that make the ladies remember you, now it can be modified a tiny bit to either convey an emotion or to go BANG!!! HERE I AM. At the end I found that IO + NONE is and will be my signature scent.

On your second question is not that my wife is negatively affected by NONE, she hates the AMMO scent or combination of molecules in it and respond much better to residual NONE, I think that freshly applied NONE is a little too overpowering for her, if I want too get lucky for sure all I have to do is wear IO + TUTH during that day and apply CTTM after the shower (I have to be careful not to scrub the TUTH application spots) she loves that stuff :cool:.

About the office, imaging a world with a ratio of women to men of 8:1, it is just the best playground

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Thanks Steve, your words validate all the work, it is fun to try everything new but sometimes the best route is not to try to reinvent the wheel, The consumer line Rocks!!:smiley:

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Hey Double M, She is 2 years older than me, but looks 5 younger than me (just in case she ever reads this :open_mouth:)

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You got something there evolver, I’m allergic to most colognes and have not wear cologne for at least 10 years. Also thats a reason I choose Neroli scent on everything (it is the mildest) and after a while you car hardly smell it. You just gave me a good inside point, cool :slight_smile:.

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Cap Cock no longer has the cycle restrictions :smiley:, for at least 3 years. I’ll post a key to results later tonite.

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WOW
loved your approach .experimenting with IJ will work for you because of age :slight_smile:
IG worked more for me ,have you combined it with IO ?

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Hey ION, no, I have not yet! I just receive today my first bottle of IG, not giving IO a fair shake got me thinking and this is the only one of the Instant Line I have not tried, so I ordered I will be first running the sweet spot test and then incorporating into my signature scent to see how it works, may be a good replacement for A314 for daily use.

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To start my inquisitive amigo M&M this is the key I used and it comes directly from my notes and therefore, it is how felt the combo was working:

BAD = Mix not working, at work mainly got me ignored, I only had 2 such cases with TUTH + IH and IJ + IH, I think the TUTH\IJ strong sexual signal crashed with the sensitive vibe from IH. At home mainly means AMMO or A314, as I said my wife hates something in AMMO and the strong dominant vibe from A314 annoy her to the point of arguments.

SO SO = I only had a SO SO mix and this was at home IJ + IS, my observation was that my wife was pulled in but when we were close she started looking at me funny and moved away, on this one I don’t know why but I slept lonely those 3 nights.

GOOD = Mix is doing what is supposed to do, hits are there at work and wife is at easy at home.

OK = Same as OK but hits are more frequent and obvious.

GREAT = Combo hitting dead center, some hits turn into IOI, those combos got compliments and verbal flirting, morning smiles at home.

GREAT\OUSTANDING = These 3 mixes IO + MX330 or TUTH or IJ were the best, I was Kino, hug, one hot coworker started to stick her tongue out at me and walk away with a grin in her face and then leaving candy on my desk and so on. Later I decided to add P78 or P83 or P91 to the mix and it got ridiculous. A lot of action in the home front.

Keep in mind that I have been using this base line scent for close to 2 months and I have seen this gradually take off, I guess from now on I will treat the IO + NONE combo as my very expensive but effective customizable cologne. I one thing is also true even the best combo will not help you in a day you are emotionally down or stressed out, those 2 vibes will break through and crash your scent message with incongruence.

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Consumer line mostly 30 ml, except CTTM and IJ

Putatives 30 ml @ 10mcg except P75 and P96

I have all kinds of TOGOs MXs and consumer line, THANK YOU AD FOR THE FREEBIES!!! Actually my lucky MX330 was a freebie and now I am begging for it to comeback.

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Ftordces, ok so one thing I’ve learned while wearing mones is my wife is extremely sensitive to smells. She’s not a huge fan of FF21. She can’t stand neroli. It doesn’t matter how turned on she is, she has an issue with neroli. She seems to be ok with Akuto, but she’s not as fond of a314. I think someone mentioned recently that a314 Akuto scent isn’t exactly the same as the akuto sprays. I agree. There is a heavier scent to a314.

I think having to add IO makes sense. You mentioned earlier that you have your female coworkers teaching you social interactions or something like that. You may be putting out enough alphaNol. So all of your mixes without IO may actually seem unfriendly.

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Josie, when it comes to AMMO I’ve tried regular FF21 and World versions and in both instances she hates, I think got something to do with the sexy vibe to it, we are a middle age couple and normally women at that age are a little worry about their husbands feeling or acting playful, so I think maybe at the subconscious level she gets a little jealous. With A314 I’m thinking it is the strong dominant vibe of RONE, which I am already naturally high. So what I found is that I needed the approachability of ANOL couple with with the sexuality of NONE which I am now low because of age; also, after 25 years of marriage I needed to dust off my social skills and get out of the comfort zone we men get into when we feel secure in our marriage or long time relationships and the emotional and behavioral changes are the most difficult in the equation, because they have to come from deep inside to be true and be perceive correctly by your piers, when that happens you know and you feel sexy even without the MONES.:slight_smile: