IOI Define?

Hello, I am not a pro at mixing mones but have been testing them on and off for about 10 years now. My very first few trial was a failure not sure if it was due to lack of knowledge on body language. About six months ago I have made a break through of course this time around I have also spent a lot on pheromone something like $300 USD.

Any who I finally see the subtle signs of female eye contact and playing with hair and maybe even smiles. SO that was a IOI right?

But now I am currently feeling after reading all the forum that for pheromones to work at least worth its price, I should expect girls to at least flirt with me, sure there are people out there that are good at hiding their interest in the opposite sex or that they are extremely shy, but seem like all I get is playing hair signal and eye contact but non of the flirt ones would expect if the opposite sex is to be considered attracted to you.

Am I wrong for wanting more or expecting more? I work in a restaurant am a waiter, before I’d work at the bank, for as long as I could remember no girls have ever flirt with me conversationally or physically, as in chatting up conversation or asking question that typically would be considered flirting. Come on, I have seen tons of people and not a one person with Type A personality female ever does that. Nor does pheromones seemed to work on any of my female co-worker or that of my own wife. So am I just making excuses wanting to believe that pheromones work? I am a little overweight and average looking but on one hand I think truly that little of IOI that I get are from pheromones but am I wrong to expect more? I am so tire of just settling for playing hair signal and eye contact.

What I am currently using is Chikara, The Edge spray, Primal Instinct, NPA, Scene of Eros, Liquid Trust, Alpha-7 and Wagg

Just saying that I have been imagining that sure if I were to see a attractive waitress with average looks, I maybe done away with out giving off any signal that I am interested or flirt with her because I don’t if she has a boyfriend or more than likely because I am shy, but what of if I were Type A personality wouldn’t I have not chatting up a friendly conversation or even outright flirt with her because I am attracted to her and that I am not shy? Due the this reason I starting to suspect why I have not seen Type A female doing the same with me at work or any other places.

Please help. I am also very approachable guys by no mean am I acting like Clint Eastwood.

Hey, and welcome to the forum.

An IOI is a term coined by pick up artists, I believe. take a look at this link How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"

You should not expect girls to flirt with you. What you should expect is that pheromones will make things easier for you. It is 90% you, and 10% pheromones. Without action, nothing will happen.

Something that I’m not very good at but I know should be the case when it comes to attracting women is that you should never expect an outcome when talking with a women. When you become outcome dependent, women can sense that there’s some hidden agenda which is not attractive to them.

I’m not sure about any of the pheromones you have listed, but I am sure about the pheromones that this company has to offer. There’s a link here:
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934
Which will explain how you can qualify for a gift card. With the 25 dollars, you can buy two small togo containers of pheromones and you can test them out yourself. I recommend ammo for attraction. Instant shine will be a vibrate and young charasmatic type pheromone. There are self effects for some people, and you may find yourself smiling when you apply some of these pheromones. I know I can’t help myself sometimes. This company also has a ridiculously good return policy so you really aren’t losing much from trying their pheromones.

Just from your post, you seem very high strung on having these things work. My suggestion is that you relax and remind yourself to have fun. Nothing is more attractive to a girl IMO than a man who knows how to relax and have fun.

Thanks for the advice Rolandcubed, I will definitely read up on the hyperlink you have given me. Also Kudos to the site for giving out $25 certificate, very thoughtful.

My mones arsenal are very well received at many other forum and sites, I ordered them through LoveScent.com but now I am looking into ordering from this site hoping it will be better.

I am however a little perplex, you are saying that I should not expect women to flirt with me while using pheromones? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of purchasing one?

Again Thanks for the advice.

Okay, I think I have done a decent job at introduction above but here are a few missing key required. Hope I’ll get the GC

a) My age 30
b) Sex male
c) General location Northern Virginia
d) Personality: Friendly, relax and approachable,
e)Why you’re here: I am here looking for a better mones products,
f)What you hope pheromones will do for you: Hoping that I will finally see mones do more than just give body language signal and promted women to start flirting with me and coaxes my wife into giving more in bed, if you know what I mean. I am married but I also don’t mind getting attention from opposite sex as well as am a waiter so dare I say gets more tips!

Hey, sorry for such a delayed response. It was 5:30 am in the morning and I was ready to crash. I wanted to give you some advice first.

Put it in this perspective. If you relax and aim to have fun, people will see you as a fun character. Open hearted conversations will come, jokes will fly and everyone will be comfortable.

Now I’m not saying you shouldn’t look for IOIs but when you stress to find them, people will sense it. You must relax because think about a person no one seems to be around. Their body language is often closed. Think of the classic look in a bar, drink across the chest, other hand in pocket. This is a very closed signal and usually their heads are hunched over their bodies. It’s very unrelaxed.

The idea is just have fun and don’t stress. I’m not sure if you have this problem but from what I can gather it seems you are trying to hard to find these things.

For business you can get A314 but it’s a little expensive for a beginner IMO. I don’t have it and I’m not sure how well it works for a waiter but it is a business pheromone and someone else may give you advice on it.

For your wife, Tuth is the sexual pheromone which might be what you want.

Social pheromones always work well. Instant honesty tied with a314 in sales is a killer combo because everyone believes everything you say.

Any more questions? you can keep asking them here and when I have time I will come back and others will help as well. but do stop by the mens forums and ask questions there as well. enjoy

I’m not really familiar with the products you list…are you using them all at once? you could be experiencing some kind of OD.
IOI’s are body language signals that women use to communicate that she finds you attractive, or at the very least interesting. This will happen initially because your phero signal is telling her that you possess certain attractive qualities.

Now bear in mind that a lot of products will contain None, Rone or some mix of the two. These signals in the right doses and ratios can be very attractive because they communicate strength, assertiveness, confidence, dominance and a go getting alpha male type persona. A vibe that makes her expect you to take some action.

In addition to the IOI thread here’s a topic on the different kinds of hits to expect from the various products.

and some tips on how to act in order to capitalize on the effects and make the most of them.

Basically you really need to start meeting the mones halfway and take some action when you see those subtle signals. You see the subtle signals and act on them, then you’ll see stronger and more obvious ones.
Try to keep in mind that to a woman, you not taking some initiative is a sign of weakness and timidity or at best a lack of interest on your part. She will not escalate flirting with a man that seems shy or weak, nor will she risk the embarrassment of escalating her IOI’s on a man that doesn’t seem interested. Reciprocate and escalate my friend, life is not an Axe commercial.

You ALREADY made introduction last time. Didn’t you get the giftcard yet?
Mickaelia or Steve will check and verify that.

Anyways, welcome again! From now on, post in the men’s section, so more of us can help and give you sound advice. See ya…

P.S. enjoy the turkey day!

Nope, Looks like this is his only one

Hello and welcome to the forum. Sorry I didn’t have the time to offer a more proper welcome to our community, but from reading your post it sounds as if you have some good previous mones usage. You’ll fit right in around here.

As you might already know I issued your GC earlier in the day. I sent it over to your email address so check your SPAM box if you don’t see it. No biggie either way as we can always get a copy to you :slight_smile:

I hope your weekend is going to be awesome as mine is about to start with a bang. I have my A314 loaded on and about to add some Ijerk. Life is good and hopefully you’ll come to love the products here as much as I do.

Again I welcome you to the forum