ITNerd799's Excellent Adventure From Friend to Oh Baby!

I just finished reading your entire journal IT. Believe me when I say I was NOT KIDDING when I said we were mad similar… Even with your original bat shit crazy target! I had a target did the EXACT same shit to me and even had a similar name!

Anyway, present day, I’m very pleased to see things are starting to look promising! After that roller coaster novel I just read, you’re like my favorite person on here now. You go, man! Can’t wait to see more updates!

TBrock

Well thank you for your high praise. I came to this site looking for a quick fix magical answer to my problems, like I am sure many people come here for, and came away with so much more. I have learned a lot about how other people who are so similar to me went through the same shit and they found this site, and sure mones might have a little scientific magic in them, but what I learned most importantly with the mones is how to be a better me. Don’t ever think you aren’t good enough because you are the prize, as I have been told many times by many helpful supporters.

Guys like us do exist, but we are few and far between my friend so after coming here I learned to stop chasing after women and learned how to turn the tables and have them chase after me. It is amazing the confidence the mones produced and the helpful tips on not only mone mixtures but dating advice that I never thought to find when I came here originally in my desperate hour. I am happy I did as I am sure you will be too. It is a great community and it just helps to know you are not the only guy in the world who feels that way, there are so many here and I think realizing that I was truly not alone just gave me the strength I needed to make the changes in my dating game I was missing, and the mones, although wonderful, are only a very small piece of the puzzle that I have been gradually putting together since I joined this site. I shall keep an eye on your journal TBrock and may your time spent here be as enlightening as mine has, and I have been here less than a year. It is amazing how much things turned around for me with the support and advice I received here, your mileage may vary but I am confident you will find yourself and the power to find someone who is good enough for you, you just gotta be patient and keep fighting the good fight!

ITNerd

Wow, sorry I have been MIA things have been going wonderfully with me and T. If you count up the grand total of dates we have been on in the past two weeks it is roughly 6 dates which far surpasses any and all girls before her already. The great part is there is no sign of slowing, in fact if anything there are signs of things getting even better and deeper. We have a very strong connection and we both feel it equally unlike in the past where I thought I had strong connections with a girl but they felt nothing for me. Jillian comes to mind. So yes things have been great. I have pretty much stuck with the magic mixture of 3 sprays Ammo, 6 sprays IH, 3 sprays IS and 1 spray MX297. It has done pretty much the same thing it has been doing for me as I reported in previous entries. So I thought it was time I upped my game turn the dial up to sexual.

Mixture

3 Sprays TUTH one on the left, right, and back of neck
2 Sprays 10/mcg P79

Report

Okay so basically the most recent date happened last night and I have to say I got some amazing results but have cause for some concern. So basically the outline of the date, she came over to my place where we then went to the store and bought stuff to make ice cream sundaes because we are cool like that and we watched TV for a few hours while snuggled up on the couch. From the get go I could tell lots of signs that she was feeling a little horny. She was sweating a lot even though it was not hot in the apartment. She kept petting and even outright pulling my hair as we watched the shows. Meanwhile I had my hand resting on her knee where I was gently rubbing her leg, she kept grabbing my hand and resting it on her very upper thigh practically in her nether regions. At first I thought it was a weird coincidence but then I started to purposely test the waters bu moving my hand back down towards her knee, she would then grab it and force it back down on her upper thigh again, and toward the end of the TV shows she was even pulling it and making me rest my hand on her breast.

So it has been roughly 5 hours since I applied the mones so I fear I might have been wearing off by the time we finally moved off the couch into my bedroom. I am not going to go into too much detail here let’s just say it was fantastic, apart from one thing, me. Now here is where my concern lies. I had a bit of performance anxiety, probably because it was my first time and I had trouble staying up, so to speak.

The entire time on the couch I had this rock hard thing going, that might have had something to do with TUTH, but because I applied it so early in the night and it took so long to get to the bedroom I am afraid I might have, sort of drained my libido. I was embarrassed to say the least and considering she left right after that made me think that I fucked up big time. So I did the worst thing I could do, I let it get to me and I kept myself up all night thinking and didn’t get a wink of sleep. I worried all night and all morning and I get a text from her this morning, the very first thing she says to me is the one thing I was happy to hear in that particular moment. Did last night have anything to do with me? So here I am stressing out all night about how she will not like me because I am such a loser and failed, she was at home stressing out that I didn’t find her sexually appealing. She didn’t think there was something wrong with me, she thought there was something wrong with her. It was an amazing feeling to know despite my short comings she still wants to be with me, and even told me she’d help me get over it next time and teach me what I need to know.

Conclusion

Well I think the mones did exactly what they were supposed to coupled with my natural hottness of course, but first time jitters and performance anxiety got the best of me. I remembered a while back I read some people reporting that TUTH can decrease your Libido if you wear it too long before you actually do anything. My question is if this is true and if there is a way I can circumvent this next time. I want to give off the sexy vibe but not drain my libido, I thought about maybe wearing AMMO first then right before we get into it spraying TUTH. I was concerned about ODing though this way, so any advice on the best procedure. The next time we are getting together I am sure there will be a nother 5-6 hours before we get into the bedroom.

ITNerd

Sounds like you’re doing great IT, but with perhaps just a slight hiccup in the confidence area. I know it’s hard sometimes because I’ve been there when you think you royally fucked up… but I’ve come to discover that girls are very forgiving of less than perfect execution. Sure, you could have done better, but everything takes practice. You did everything right and that’s all that matters. And props for waiting for her to text you. You never want to seem needy or insecure. (which I know you know but I’m saying it anyway.)

But overall great job! Looking forward to your next update!
Stay challenging! You are the prize! :cool:

Hey bud, just read the whole journal. In the past, you did a lot of things that AFC’s do, and you shouldn’t! There’s no real way to fix it other than realizing your mistakes. You’ve received a lot of good advice in here from others, and from your early posts, I would see a million mistakes in your reports. The more recent reports are getting better and better! Keep a girl on her toes, keep her out of her comfort zone, and keep her interested. Show DHV, and make her qualify herself to you. Not sure if it’s an issue, but make sure you have good posture, and self-confidence, and the girls will flock to you!! You’ve come a long way since your first post, and you’ll only get better, don’t forget that :slight_smile:

Thanks for the kind words of praise it is a good feeling. Things have been going great. I am just trying to figure out my newest issue whether it is medical or all nervousness because it just seems to keep happening as we tried again and again I had an issue. I blame it on all the single years where I had no girlfriends, just a hand. My next course of action is to abstain from any kind of relief and just allow it to build up hopefully that will help lol. She is very patient but how long will patience last in this instance something needs to be done.

uhhh, was she your first? I’m probably not qualified to answer this, but the key to lasting is not focusing on the actual sex. Usually when I’m doing it, I think about a field of flowers (no homo).

Crap,kinda drunk… Prob shouldn’t have asked on a public forum :smiley:

No worries I am a very open person so I don’t mind, she is indeed my first. Really thinking about something other than sex keeps you going? My problem is not finishing early so much as not keeping up appearances during sex for some reason, foreplay sure solider stands upright and attentive, but when he dives into the trench he goes MIA which eventually leads to being KIA.

Did you watch a lot of porn previously? If so, both your penis and mind could be desensitized and may need a period of rest. Also, you probably grip your penis too hard during masturbation which can also have desensitizing effects. No worries, it is reversible.

Before you jump to this conclusion, however, just relax as a fair amount of it was likely anxiety. I think if you make the move yourself next time instead of having her guide you along, so to speak, you will have a boost in confidence and perform better. Just don’t play with yourself in the mean time.

Thanks for the advice I shall keep that in mind I really am leaning more towards anxiety because just thinking about her during the day is having a positive effect that won’t go away easily but I haven’t acted on it so I am thinking I just need to take a step back and abstain from doing anything for a while. I should be as good as new soon enough I am confident of that.

Man, that’s just part of being a dude… it happens from time to time and there’s definately no reason to beat yourself up about it, or even worry about it as of yet. BTW your outlook and experiences with life have came a LONNNNG way since you’ve broken those negative thinking patterns… MUCH PROPS MAN! :slight_smile:

Greetings all, things have been going quite excellent for me. Still dating the same girl and all seems right in the world. Let me tell you I have been experimenting with MX412 AD’s solution to the A1 formula. I decided that it was best to test this out on the current girl without using the actual A1 because I wanted to see how well it mimics the effects.

I have been wearing it with 3 sprays of Ammo and 2 sprays of P79 10 mcg. With that mix plus the MX412 vs A1 it has been quite amazing. Now I do not know if this is to do with the mones or if it was my natural awesomeness and her attraction to me, but since I started wearing 2 sprays of MX412 with the above sprays I have been seeing a lot of clingy behavior coming from her. This is not unusual I am sure but I just thought it was funny because she told me how one of the last guys she dated was super clingy and weird, the type of guy who would spam text messages that read 4 hours, 23 minutes, and 3 seconds til I see you again.

It is important to note that I in the past have been guilty of doing such awful things as the countdown til I see you again and I have to agree it doesn’t work it just turns off most girls. So learning from my mistakes I decided when she asked the question what is my biggest turn off it was that I hated clingy women. I like strong independent girls. So it was only two weeks into dating her that I added the MX412 vs A1 into the mix and immediately I saw the clingy effects of A1. Five minutes after she would leave my apartment I would get a text that said she missed me already. She even started doing a countdown text of her own on occasion, not to the extreme of 2 hours, 23 minutes, and 2 seconds but stuff like, only 8 hours to go. There is a running joke I utilize with her where I am trying to master time and space manipulation and she always asks me if I have perfected it yet so we can jump to when we are supposed to be together next.

With all these new clingy behaviors and what is clearly a memory scent imprint as is the case with A1 and she keeps saying really quickly if I do not respond to one of her clingy texts that if she is being weird and she doesn’t mean to be. Now we are at the 1 month mark and I am getting the I am so lucky to have met you, what did I do to deserve such a great guy, you make me so damn happy and I love it.

So in conclusion I would say that MX412 vs A1 is a very good substitute for the real deal without having to deal with those pesky depressive side effects. That is not to say it is solely responsible for the way she has been acting around me I am pretty awesome after all. And even though I say clingy behavior I don’t mean it negatively, quite the opposite it is actually nice that for once in my life I am in a position where I am practically on a pedestal instead of me putting her on one and it is truly a great feeling. I think the time has come for the ultimate test. I am going to forgo wearing mones while in her presence and see if it has any adverse effects. I want to be sure that I can have and maintain a relationship without the mones as a permanent crutch. I will see if there is any change in her behavior and I think it will be a very good experiment to see just how much the mones influence her or if it is all just me at this point.

ITNerd

Very interesting feedback on MX412. I didn’t get that at all, but I’m so interested now, I’m going to go back and retest. You are awesome!

Excellent journal!!! Way to go ITNerd!

It sounds like it isn’t just Mx412, but a lot to do with you. Reading the way you have responded to her it seems like you are still in the driver’s seat and haven’t given her your testicles.

Well like I said it seemed to pick up when I started wearing the MX412, but like you say Hammer, it might be more to do with me and my situation and this particular girl. Circumstances are different for everyone. But I would definitely recommend MX412 to others because I feel like it is having a positive effect that might be helping her along with her feelings like I say your mileage may vary Steve but I would give it another go for sure.

Here is my report on Operation No Mones. Since I decided to not wear mones around her anymore I have gone out with her 4 times. So that is 4 instances of No mones, not even a cologne around her. What are the results, well unclear to be honest. She seems to be acting the exact same way, but she has calmed down on the amount of texts she has been sending me daily quite a lot and the countdowns and I miss you so much can you speed up time yet texts have been non existent. That is not to say it is completely to do with the fact I was not wearing mones around her it might just be that she is falling into a more comfortable place with me and she doesn’t feel the need to keep texting me and reminding me she misses me because I am not going anywhere at the moment. I think I am going to wear the usual ones when I see her tomorrow and see what happens if I see a return to her previous behavior it will be quite interesting.

Well I am back, unfortunately. So me and V were going great, we had planned a trip to California together, we seemed like we were doing so great. The last time we were together Thursday two weeks ago. We went out to eat, we went shopping, we talked, we laughed, we cuddled on the couch in and fell asleep in each others arms. It was a great feeling. A week later, she dumped me, via text. The speech, she is overwhelmed in her life right now, she doesn’t have any spare time between going to work full time, going to school full time, she has to deal with personal issues and I am such a great guy who deserves a girl who can give me the time and affection I deserve. She swears it wasn’t me that I didn’t do anything that because she is spending less and less time with me she feels more and more distant. It is not like it was in the beginning.

Two months we were together two months. I am not convinced she was being honest with me, but let’s say she was and she really doesn’t feel like she has time to spend with me, then I gotta make myself unavailable so she wants me again. So new game plan yet again, time to get my EX to come crawling back to show her that I am the prize and she made the biggest mistake of her life by leaving me at the first sign of trouble. We never fought in our entire relationship. I know what you are thinking, she dumped be by text, what a bitch, but I dunno I am not convinced she isn’t keeping the door open. All of her other exes she unfriended on facebook, we are still friends, and she will talk to me via text. It’s like she has to respond to every text which I used to my advantage. At first it was stale and empty but I was starting to get a bit of the old rapport back via text, then I stopped texting her. I am convinced she is going to wonder why I did that so abruptly.

Right now we are not going to see each other in person any time soon, if we did it would make her a liar when she told me she had no time to spend with me. So I can’t put the mones back into the equation all I can do is start looking busy and try and get attractive girls to take lots of photos with me so I can post them on facebook so it looks like I am every girl’s desire which will in turn make her jealous. So that is step one. To get the girls to take pictures with me, I will utilize the mones. The question is what combination of mones shall I use to get a bunch of drunk attractive girls to take pictures with a total stranger…hmm I have a lot to think about. Stay tuned!

ITNerd

Well it seems when you were on the mones around her you were more of a challenge. I think the biggest mistake us guys make is making an effort to get back with an ex. We do all these things to make her jealous, by taking pics with other women, showing us having fun… What you should be doing is going out and having fun, taking pics, doing everything you want and living your life abundantly. You’re meeting new and cooler people and maybe someone even cooler than a person who doesn’t even care enough about your relationship to break it off in person.

You’re so much better of a person than she is. Why lower your standards my friend? Move on and be happy you are rid of someone like that. Just saying.

You are probably right, I think I want to do it more out of vengeance because of how abruptly and unfairly she ended things. Well I will do just that, I will go out and have fun and take pictures. I will make her realize she made the biggest mistake of her life and make her live with it. I kind of like the idea of being “the one that got away” to someone else. I am back in the game, maybe it might be too soon, or maybe I waited too long already. I just showered and shaved and plan on cutting my hair tomorrow. I will be doing things and she will just see me living my life afar wondering, why is he so happy when I dumped him? Maybe there was more to him than I realized, maybe I miss him, too little too late!

ITNerd