A friend of mine that I have been edumacating about pheros is still skeptical. He keeps talking about thing like how our VNO is now vestigial and how only 3 in 10 ppl are affected by pheros. I want to let him test it himself (I’m going to spray him with TUTH like 5 times) but he keeps coming up with silly excuses.
I wonder sometimes to Lor, Maybe some people are just more open minded or observant then others.
I think you hit the nail on the head with this statement. I didnt get it right when I first started but with the help of just reading all the posts in the forum and taking the advice of the experienced people I figured out what I was doing wrong pretty quick and saw results right away after that.
I think alot of people either dont use enough or use way to much and give up to quick. Then they just figure it dosnt work.
i think it is really because the effects are usually very subtle and you have to really pay attention to notice. at first i think us newbies expect a night and day difference and are dissapointed when it’s not like that. i’ve been experimenting for a little over a month and i am just finally starting to see the results i’m looking for and they still aren’t anything over the top. really taking the time to read the forum and listen to the experienced users is key.
If you’re a normally a “restained” personality I think the results are usually subtle. I’m usually on the quiet side but can crank it up when inspired or feel like acting. If I degrade into loser, fence post or zombie mode I get zip. Not even a glance or smile. However I long ago noticed the more intense persona you project–friendly, outgoing, etc.–the better pheromones seem to work. In other words, if you’re over the top, the pheromones really amp you up into overdrive. And, instead of people thinking you’ve cracked, they find you believable, enjoy and go along for the ride. So, unfortunately, you gotta go for the total package in order to be successful. I think Lor’s excellent results are directly tied into her magnetic and outgoing personality. The more you have, the more pheromones give.
As for skeptics, who cares. pheromones ain’t religion and I certainly don’t want every man, woman and beast infested with artificial pheromones. Let the skeptics miss out!
I am a skeptic. Certain other skeptics would have us believe that the vermonasal organ is vestigial only in humans and blocks pheromones from working -except for the proven cases of a1 and the effect they have on women’s menstral cycles…
Hmmm -so if the vermonasal organ isn’t working then how does the human female body detect A1?
With all bad science it’s a matter of using theories to interpret facts instead of the other way around.
Through the olfactory system, A.K.A der snout! It’s been demonstrated many times people that suffer loss of the vermonasal organ (e.g., plastic surgery, accidents, etc.) are still able to detect and process mone information. In contrast, those that lose their scent of smell are unable to intercept and process mone information.
I’m not a phero salesman , so I have no incentive to argue with uneducated skeptics
I am a skeptic myself, but am willing do the research myself to prove either way. People who pass judgement without any knowledge on the subject aren’t worth the time IMO, and in this case they are the ones missing out anyway.
Exactly, I don’t wear pheromones to try to convince anyone about how effective they are. Some people will argue, and debate anything, and that is their right. I think that some people expect them to work like magic or something. But even magic requires effort on the magicians part.
well the funny thing is that I am not even caring what organ is being used to interpret what!
all of the details change with evolving scientific data, and its all good.
you can know an apple for example is good for you, and there will be 20 different theories for why.
who cares?
if im being affected, you bet im going to assume some will be affected as well.
and just like im an individual, not everyone will get the results i get and vice versa…
Liz Hurley is going to get a hella more results than i would with say androstenol ;
and it will mesh with her chemistry differently as well.
i can see where if pheromones arent affecting you personally, then you wouldnt believe they are affecting other people.
i wore instant sexiness to affect others.
i hadnt a CLUE i would feel like the sexiest thing alive.
that threw me for a loop.