Looking for a combo to attract men who want a relationship, not just my body

So pretty much I’m really down right now.

The three guys that I really liked all ended up not wanting relationships so now I’m back to square one and I need all of your help badly.

I want a combo that will attract the guys, but I want to attract the guys who want more then just my body. Is there any possible way I can make a combo for this or even come close?

Please give me your ideas, even if there are pheros in the mix that I might not have. Any and all comments/help is welcome. Thanks

Sorry to hear that.

Maybe your faith has not come yet.
Be patient. I am sure the best will come soon.

Maybe MX300 will help. It makes guys think you are respected and of higher status. This can filter out guys who are not serious. Just my opinion.

I’m sorry to hear that, but I recommend you keep on doing what you’re doing pheromone wise and really try to brush it off. The pheromones will do the rest, but this is where mostly you come in.

I’m a guy, so obviously I know how most guys are and I think that you should not show any feelings of being down by this rejection. Guys feed off of it and use it to raise their self confidence (and really some guys laugh at it.) Don’t be seen as weak, as this will make it harder for you to be taken seriously especially when you say you want to be in a relationship. Also, don’t give anything up (not saying that you do or have!) Your feelings are of most importance here, so be strong and seem like you’re doing good all by yourself. Keep this up until a guy who truly has respect for girls sees this, and falls in love with your true beautiful qualities (not just your body.) You’ll know when this happens; the both of you will know when this happens…

I think james and miko have given some good advice here.
I think phero’s can only do so much, though I don’t know that much about them.
I just dont think phero’s can filter out the guys you dont want for you.

However I would look at it this way, you are not being rejected, you are rejecting them, because you dont want what they are offering.

Believe me you are going to meet a lot of guys that want “just one thing”.
Just be patient and dont give in, or settle for less even though you really want a boyfriend.

There’s more to life than being in a relationship, enjoy what you have dont focus on whats missing. Then all of a sudden it will happen, when you arent even looking.
Also maybe just meeting guys and being friends w/them first, that way you can get to know them before you get to know them.

WildFlower has called P86 the crush pheromone. It might be worth consideration.

I did some fast reading from some past stuff you posted in your journal. I would say leave the TUTH out “Some people say it is butch” I have no clue just read that.

Sounds like you need a hug “squeeze” there you go.

You need an OD of honesty to find if they want your body or not.LOL

Hmm, maybe I should read up on this MX300

Thanks for the insightful words. That part about not being weak is something I often have trouble with because I find my TG is nicer to me when I’m not doing so well with these situations…even if it is his fault..

Yeah I agree with the whole being friends with guys first. It was actually how I ended up with my previous bfs so who knows :slight_smile:

Yeah I’ve head about that from Tigerlilly. I’m very tempted to get some of that stuff…

Yeah, I’ve already decided against using TUTH from now on. Now I kinda wanna find a new home for it.

Thanks for the hug btw :slight_smile: I really needed that. TG thinks I’m too dependent on love, which kinda sucks, so I hardly get hugs from him unless I ask him.

Hmm…maybe some Instant Honesty would be a good spray to wear sometime soon. :wink:

Yes P86 is my best friend right now.LOL

P86 adds nicely to any mix from what I haver been playing with.

Hmm :3 So many good things I hear about this p86

I haven’t read your other posts, so I’m not sure what exactly it is you’re wearing, but I would definitely be avoiding things like TUTH. I’d probably keep it socials, pherowise, plus whatever mxs you ladies like to use. :slight_smile: Anything that’s overtly sexual probably isn’t that great of an idea, if you’re getting tired of shooting down guys who just want sex. You know what I mean? One sure way of avoiding guys who are mostly looking for sex is to avoid sending off a sexual message to begin with. Of course there is a fine line between being asexual and less sexual. You still need to be a woman and do your thing. :wink:

Honestly, I can’t say any pheromones will really affect the situation much. If a guy doesn’t want to be in a relationship, no pheromone will change that. All pheromones might do is get him to want it so bad that he’s willing to lie for it. That doesn’t do you any good.

The guys have already made good suggestions. Change your perspective on the issue. You gave those three guys an opportunity, and they didn’t take it. Tough, their loss. It’s the same thing with guys. We approach a girl and she turns us down. Fine, too bad girl, I was a catch. You’re the catch too, act like it. :slight_smile:

I haven’t tried p86 or mx300 so I can’t comment on that. As far as individual putatives go, I’m not sure either, honestly. I’ll leave it for others to chime in. I know this is a phero forum so you’re probably expecting such and such mix, but I have to say, this is probably best addressed by switching up your mentality and finding more interesting guys, who are just as interested in you as they are ‘getting to know you’. Good luck. :smiley:

Well, I took a look at your journal. Excellent reporting by the way :wink:

I agree with the other members. TUTH is not going to make you more authoritative. Mones work different worn on women then they do on men. People tend to forget that. TUTH will make them more sexually aggressive when worn with female mones. This is not to say women shouldn’t use mens mones, they have there purpose on a women, but dont expect the same results as the men.

This is part of the reason your getting this >>>

MX300 is good for upping your status, creating more respect and making people more accommodating. Its something to consider but I wouldn’t say it would make them not have sexual thoughts or intentions. They will keep it in check though.

Before you used TUTH you were getting more affection along with attraction and not as much sexual pushiness.

P86 has a lot of visual effects, reports of more visual attraction. This could increase a sexual response. Also some zoning out. Your looking to increase interest here not fog things. Not saying its not a great mone just that the female data is different then the mens data.

I would suggest you go back to what was working in the beginning. Then possibly try MX274 or P74. This is as close to EST as you can get effect wise and I think EST would be beneficial to your mixes.

Use the female sexual mones to create attraction then some socials for that connection and rapport. What your looking for is more connection on a emotional level. Not that the sexual level isn’t fun.

Once you have established the attraction and connection and they are expressing interest and you are ready to move forward toward sexual then use the a little TUTH with some female mones to push that forward.

Its just like I tell the men though.

Women and Men approach relationships different.

Women are attracted to a man and look for the emotional connection and become aroused by those connected feeling and will act on those aroused feelings with a sexual response.

Men become attracted to a women and then aroused and they lead with a sexual response, that sexual response is what makes them feel connected. Because men are less emotional many times sex is how they feel close to a person.

This is not to say sleep with them so you get a emotional response but look at there arousal as the first step of attraction.

Men are more instinct driven and women are more emotion driven. If your looking for a relationship you want to meet somewhere in the middle.

You may also have higher expectations for the mones then they can give you. Mones will not change a persons mind if he is not interested in you beyond friendship but they will make them rethink there position or open the door of opportunity so you can show them who you are and what you have to offer as a person. They influence but they never change a person.

Tisha

to play up
an aspect of yourself
like hair or body
is to make it important.
his usually includes pheromones (no one looks for MX109 for an intellectual conversation :wink:)

to play up another equally important aspect
like ideas you are interested in
and combining that with your talent
is to make the inner you more important.

you cant make the outer you more important
but expect the inner you to get more attention.

i dont care about the “guys are visual” crap.
they arent looking into your soul unless that is where you are inviting them.
oh and YES, this cuts down the dates considerably,
but your getting quality over quantity.

Or you can put on a ton of TAL and a dash of P80, kick some ass, take names and let them all grovel at your feet! Heh… j/k. :smiley:

Diane

Well said. Obviously my perspective does need to be changed if things keep going wrong. I’ll keep in mind the whole “I’m a catch deal”.

I like your idea about the sexual message. Now to find that fine line between just friends and sexual. Usually it’s really hard for me to come back from just being friends with someone. I general am friends with someone just to be there friend, though its happened where I have been friends first then became their gf. I think that was because I was trying to get to know them better and it would have seemed weird for me to go right into kissing at that point in time in my life. Now it’s kinda hard to not wanna just go into that if the guy is will and I need to remember what the past used to be like where I didn’t go about all of this the wrong way…I’ll try to recall all that. Maybe that’ll help some.

Are you saying I should combine the MX274 and p74 together to create a sort of EST feel? Also, what exactly do those two pheros do alone?

Lol, I don’t think I’d be using MX109 right now, though I do wanna test it to see what the results for me would be. Prob a good thing it’s not available right now so I wouldn’t be tempted to buy it with the current state I’m in.

You also offer some very insightful information. I’ll keep all of that in mind.