May Have Her On the Brink....Need Assistance...

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So, first of all, hello! Nice to be back!

So, I’ve been working in under-served schools. I’m a co-teacher with a BEAUTIFUL 23 year old girl. In January, she broke up with her boyfriend of 4 years, and she started getting friendlier with me. Friendliness turned into hot and cold flirtiness. Even the kids are aware of it.

Anyways, last Tuesday she was flirting with me hardcore. Smiling, some touching (brushed her boob up against me), looking at me, even calling me by my real name randomly (something no one does). But, she always responds with one word texts, so I just don’t text her.

Tuesday night comes, some staff go for drinks. She puts on a SHOW. At first, I wasn’t talking to her, but we were texting. She yelled something across the table. Then, as we get drunk, convo becomes about who’s sleeping with who. She whips out her phone, and starts talking about Tinder, who she’s talking to (earlier in the night, I had my knee up against hers, she didn’t budge). It just seemed like she was trying to get a rise out of me. For example, a teacher asked me what my type was. As soon as I was done, she starts going, “well MY type is…” That’s how it was until she excused herself (I overheard her telling another teacher the next day at work that “last night got really weird.”)

I made a small mistake. She left, I was left with one teacher. After some questioning, I told the teacher I thought my co-teacher was attractive, and that I think she may like me. She said, “she’s not into you. I asked her she said no.” I told her “yeah, I’m calling the bluff.”

She went and told my co-teacher. My co-teacher calls me “boo” every now and again, I called her “boo” twice. I called her “boo” via text message in class on Friday, she said it made her uncomfortable. Then, Friday night after a school baseball game (I’m assistant coach and I’m pretty sure she was looking over at me quite a lot), she left without saying a word, then texted me saying she heard that I said we were dating (the rumor mill). I told her what happened Tuesday night, and she kind of waved it off as “ah, no big deal.” And then she told me she was in love with her best friend and I was ruining her chances (which I think was a ploy).

Also, before the game, I downloaded Tinder, came across her, right-swiped (meaning find her attractive), and she matched, then deleted the match (hmmm…)

Anyways. I told her as long as we work together, I care too much about my job to get involved. We no longer work together after May 5. She responded with “word.” I think my BEST chance with her is when I’m done (after May 5), and we are teaching in different schools.

My question: I still think she’s interested (maybe not), but I think she at least WAS interested. I’m going to act no different than I have, but I will NOT initiate any of the flirting.

ALL I have with me right now is a wee bit of A314. My intention is, to be blunt, want her to want me.

With THAT in mind, I also work with 5th graders who have bad behaviors, and I don’t want them to feel aggression from me.

Thoughts on what pheros to get? I’m not looking for the entire cookbook, just another 1-3. A314 makes me feel very serious around her, and sometimes, even angry (a mix of her for being hot and cold and not straight-forward, and the kids for general misbehavior).

I’m thinking IShine is a definite. I want her to feel as if I’m not bothered by these going-ons, that I’m incredibly sexually attractive (which I think she already thinks, I just want something to affirm it), and that I’m highly desirable (which I already run pretty good game in the school – lots of the teachers really like me).

I think at the VERY least she is sexually attracted to me. She may not want to date me, but I doubt she ISN’T sexually attracted to me. Hell, once I wore a tight t-shirt to school and I caught her staring at my arms all day.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Take her for her WORD: LET IT GO.

No more text messages that does NOT have anything to do with school, and that means, you do NOT come up with stuff about school just so you can text her, either! No more conversation about ‘US’ No more Boo.

Go completely PROFESSIONAL. And when May 5th comes, move on.

That’s when you will find out IF SHE’S INTO YOU, or you’re doing what millions of men do: SHE WANTS ME, BUT … NOT!

GOOD LUCK!

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So, today was first day back at work with her knowing that I find her attractive and that I think she flirts.

I think the flirting was dialed down a LITTLE bit, but actually, no awkwardness or anything like that at all. I’d go so far as to say that I was being more formal than she was.

STILL, my gut tells me she wants me…if not to date, at least for a night.

I was told that I may have been using too much A314 around her, which would cause her to flirt but also feel a sort of inadequacy around me. This makes sense because she sometimes acts tense around me, and when she got drunk, she tried telling me what I could do better at work and tried to prove herself to me (like discussing with her friend how she’s a freak in bed, showing a lot of guys are talking to her, etc).

I’ve decided to go with AMMO + IH. I think one of two things would happen with these mixes. Either, the flirting elevates, and she starts being more honest and upfront with me (perhaps she debriefs me on the night she was saying very off-the-wall things to me), OR, if she has no feelings for me, acts VERY standoffish.

That comes Thursday.

In the meantime, I’m going with 1-2 drops of A314 instead of the 3-4. I noticed she’s still smiley, a LITTLE playful, but nothing over the top. Still very professional, very formal. Whenever the kids act out, she looks at me like, “really? Did you just see that?”
At one point we passed each other in the hallway. It seemed like she was trying to act uninterested in me. Then she saw me talking to another female teacher, she looked at me, for a bit, almost paused, then walked away.

Also, maybe she just has wandering eyes, but I CONSTANTLY always catch her stealing a glance at me. Whenever I look at her, her eyes conveniently move off at me (ONE of these days I’ll catch you directly, girl).

I also see her look at me whenever she needs affirmation. Like, when she’s teaching a lesson, she looks at me A LOT (I think to see if she’s doing a good job).

My gut is split. Half of it tells me, “she has categorized you as a coworker, she may like what she sees, but it’ll NEVER happen.” The other half tells me, “she wants you SO badly, but she thinks it’s SO wrong.” I’m pretty sure, at the very least, she finds me attractive.

I know that I want her badly. Hopefully, I can subtly give those singles with AMMO and IH without being overtly obvious about it. I’m getting the two at a PERFECT time – last day before spring break (an entire week). She’ll go into the break thinking “oh shit! Something about him just is sticking with me right now.”

We shall see.

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Have you any P96? - Even a little in the mix can help let those sexual impulses/emotions slip-out properly. Its quite wearable at work with A314.

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Alas, the only phero product I brought from home (live in the south now, parents live up north) is A314. Thought it’d cover all the bases.

I did have AMMO, but ran all out of it.

Would you recommend A314+P96 OVER a mixture of AMMO+IH?

How would they be different?

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P96 is all dreamy feeling and romantic. You remember things better than they actually were, it seems to affect memories positively.

I’ve tried B-nol and it’s quite hypnotic and calming for me. Smooth conversations & interactions like they know you really well. It can also quiet people down so they take more prompting to talk, but when they do they just say whatever unfiltered. Don’t know what else is in IH - something for more detail-oriented focus probably, besides the pinch of A-nol.

Both P96 and IH get very interesting at the higher end… if you’re going to splurge on something, this could be worth it.

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My thing is that I worry that I might come off as “wow…this guy is a great friend.” Would P96 + AMMO be too much (not to mention–don’t want 11 year olds that I teach to think I come off as aggressive).

Keep in mind that she’s a 23 year old white girl who’s socially conservative, but I have a feeling is also sexually frustrated (talking to a lot of boys post-breakup, don’t know if she has actually gotten with any. Last year of her 4 year relationship she slept in separate beds from her boyfriend).

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Just an IOIs question:

So, I’ve been trying to pay attention to her body language. Thing is, most of the time we are in the classroom, and being a “job-first” socially conservative type of girl, I think her body language is directed more towards the students than me (i.e. “I don’t have time to flirt while I’m working”)

However, these are common IOIs that I’ve noticed (or lack thereof) when we work together:
-I look her dead in the eyes. She looks me dead in the eyes, then she looks towards her right. ALWAYS away to the right. She continues to talk after that.
-She wears flats. All the time. When she crosses her legs, it’s usually AWAY from the door (which is usually away from me). HOWEVER, I catch her fluttering her foot a lot, and sometimes taking it out of her shoe lately.
-When I’m thinking her body language says uninterested, I tend to pay conscious attention to my own body language, and I realize that it’s the same (showing disinterest)
-STILL feel as if she steals glances at me through my peripheral vision, could be wrong

These ones are interesting
-Kids tend to think that when a woman and man talk, they are instantly dating. When they say she and another guy are dating, always, “he’s like a brother,” or “he’s just a friend.” With me? She doesn’t even respond (I’ve taken to telling the kids I think it’s highly inappropriate). She USED to play along with it, or tell them she just got out of a relationship and I need to wait at least a year.

-Today, we had meetings after school. I felt as if she was sort of purposely ignoring me. We were “forced” to sit together. I looked around the classroom, ALL other co-teachers were a bit of a distance away from each other. She and I had our heads VERY close.

-I had my elbow up against her elbow. She kept it there (sort of like when we went for drinks and our knees were up against each other). I also sort of noticed her mimicking my actions. I scratched back of my neck, she scratched back of her neck. I pulled my chair back, she pulled her chair back and then crossed her legs in OPPOSITE direction of me (could have been sign of disinterest, could have been a comfort thing). I directed my legs in the opposite direction of her, but we were still physically close to each other.

-I sort of batted my phone at her so she could see that I was talking to a girl. She usually hides her phone from me, but made it a BIT more obvious that she was talking to guys when I did that.

-I grabbed her hand to look at her ring. She didn’t pull away. She took her ring off her hand and handed it to me. “I wear it EVERYDAY.” I put it on. She doesn’t care. I take it off and hand it to her in a way she’d slip it back on (too much?) she grabs it and puts it on herself.

-I was SO checked out during the meeting that she sort of ran the show. At one point, we were talking to other teachers, and she said, “yeah we do this and this and this” and took her pen and sorted of poked me to show she was referring to me.

Thing is, I FEEL only the slightest amount of tension–especially when sitting next to her. I don’t know if that it’s JUST exuding from me, or if she’s in an unsure state about me.

We are also around each other A LOT at work, so it’s very hard to discern at times when she is just doing something out of physical discomfort (ex: switching her sitting position) or when it’s directly related to me. Also, if she at least likes you as a person, she’s VERY friendly and playful. Hard to tell whether she is just being super friendly to me or flirty. I think, come May 1, I’m going to let her make the move.

Also, I told her May 1 would be my last day with her, and her face had a second of disappointment, but she said, “OK” and went back to neutral.

Thoughts?