Hi, I work as a community psychiatric nurse and have always been puzzled by the frequent occurence of mental health professionals getting themselves into trouble by having an affair with a patient. Often the patient is not particularly attractive, either physically or personality wise. Something just occurred to me - people with schizophrenia often have poor personal hygiene. Could it be that they are among the few people who don’t wash off their natural pheromones? Not hard science but just a thought.
You might be on to something concerning the patient’s natural pheromones being present because they don’t have particularily good personal hygiene. However, most men would avoid a woman who smelled like a water buffalo on a hot day unless they themselves were either:
a)close to having a blackout after a long night of drink
b)suffering from a terminal case of sinusitis or
c)the mental health professional may also be suffering from his or her own mental disorder.
But seriously, it is very interesting theory. If you think about it—cavemen and women probably didn’t wash a hell of alot either and they most likely didn’t have a problem in that department.
I know of a mental health nurse who wears pheros inside the hospital around patients and staff, and didn’t hide it from colleagues. Things like this can make you want the stuff outlawed.
I think that nurse needs some mental health counseling if she’s wearing it around patients and staff. I’d never wear pheros in my work environment, and I’m in that field. The thought of doing so freaks me out a little quite honestly.
But this thread has got me wondering if the amount of pheromones we produce has any correlation to if a person is depressed or manic. People will say it has to do with confidence and mood, that those things are contagious, but I’m wondering if pheros aren’t falling into the equation as well?
It’s a he.
Once he said one of the male patients was gay, which was disbelieved. He said watch this and sprayed pheros in his face. When asked what it was he replied pheromones, to which he said it was used to gain trust and respect when questioned as to why he can’t attract females normally. When told he has zero respect now, he hunched the shoulders and walked away with his head down. Guy usually walks around in ‘alpha pose’ but way over the top.
Just another personality fraud.
These sprays can be dangerous and I am sure they are often misused.
I think you are misunderstanding what pheromones are and what they do. They cant do what you just described. Doctors getting involved with patients has nothing to do with pheromones. It is a personality flaw. As for the doctor who belittled his patient. Its likely that the patient felt insulted by the comments made to him and who wouldnt be. Not a very good doctor in my opinion.
I dont suggest you wear certain pheromones around mental patients only because some have a harder time holding back feelings. But certain pheromones can be beneficial. Mones that help those who cant open up feel comfortable enough to open.
You need to remember above all else, Mones only enhance who you are they dont change you in any way. They do not eliminate free will. They influence feelings and people react to those feelings. They send chemical signals to others about you.
All human and animals for that matter make pheromones naturally. Maybe we should lock everyone up in padded rooms so they cant expose others to there pheromone signatures. Its easy to make statements like this one when you dont understand how and why something works. I suggest you learn more about it before making that judgement.
Tisha
When he sprayed the guy in the face his eyes half shut and he couldn’t talk. And then he remembered nothing later. The guy with the pheros is a nurse.
A human can make pheromones, but not in the quantity or strength that you get in the bottle. A human cannot will themselves to produce certain pheromones in order to influence the feelings of another, let’s not get in to female sexual arousal though. What ever happened to relying on your soul to communicate with people?
I like pheromones and I think they are useful. In the bedroom with a partner who is aware of what you are doing, or for personal self effects, like those who use that instant female magic when ovulating.
You can get that effect from any chemical and any doctor who would spray a chemical in someones face is a idiot. Plus its still impossible, mones have absolutely no effect on memory whats so ever.
Tisha
It’s not impossible, because I witnessed it.
Whether it was the pheromones that caused it directly, or whether it was the targets brain reverting to primal mode, and deactivating the evolved sections of the brain and reverting to the primitive sectors (which DOES happen to people who then can often not recall what happened in this state) due to pheromones I am not sure.
The guy who did the spraying is a nurse.
I dont care if the guy doing the spraying was Pope John Paul. He deserves to lose his job. You do not spray chemicals in peoples faces.
So since you were there name the chemical compound he used. Which mone was it. I didnt just fall off the turnip truck. I am a Pheromaster guide for a very good reason. I know exactly what they do and why they do it. So maybe this mone your friend used was some new compound that countless scientists have never heard of yet. I am sure it has a name.
Tisha
He’s not my friend. I personally dislike this individual. When I said he was a nurse I was just correcting your statement of doctor.
I have no idea what the pheromone he used was, except he said it was a pheromone and he could prove this patient was gay. It was not in the face on the skin, it was sprayed in front of the face, at a 180 degree angle. Think spraying on the cheek angle but in front of the face by about a foot.
I’m telling you it happened. I witnessed it with my own eyes. Whether it was the pheromones causing this or a lapse in brain circuitry potentially caused by the pheromones, I don’t know.
So it could have been drano or WD40 for all you know that he was spraying. I am not questioning that you were there and saw this. But come on you dont even know if they were pheromones or not. That is the very first question I would have asked. What pheromone is it ?
You dont like the guy, I suggest you dont trust him either. Take it from someone who knows pheromones and knows them well. If he did have a lapse in memory and there were pheromones it wanst due to pheromones. Probably due to a reaction to the chemical carriers.
I have used every pheromone in this store and some not sold here. I have mega dosed on plenty of them and never have I experienced memory loss or loss of function. Maybe got a little nauseated but thats it. Is it totally impossible, no but I have never seen or spoken to anyone else reporting it either. Then again maybe they dont remember it so they dont report it. But anyways with all the pheromones I have used and have tested on others there is no blank spots in my or their memory and they all functioned just fine. Even at really high doses.
If you just like to use pheromones with a partner for sexual reasons thats great. It fits your needs and thats what we want them to do. But when you make statements like “pheromones should be outlawed” and then give information about something you saw that no other pheromone users out of the hundreds of thousands that use has ever seen and then tell me you dont even know what it is he sprayed it makes me kinda think your trying to scare the members.
I think your voicing your own fears of what pheromones can do really. But I assure you there is nothing to feel afraid about. They are subtle and they will not make you or anyone else forget who they are or act totally out of character. They just bring forth what we tend to mask through shyness and other emotions. Even with the sexual pheromones if the person dosnt like you or is involved with another they are not going to respond to you wearing them. They just dont work that way. I am sure there are those who wish they did
Like I said in reponse to your other thread, If they had the power you are claiming they do I would have taken over the world years ago. While they do work well to enhance and bring forth feelings in others they really cant do anymore then that. The rest is up to you
Tisha
It’s true they might not have been pheromones, but I was told they were. I couldn’t smell anything when it was done. When I witnessed this I had never thought of purchasing pheromones before or using them, but I was aware of what they do (agricultural background) and when I shower I never use soap under my arms or an anti perspirant, but just an alcohol based deodoriser, seeing as I don’t smell offensive and have sensitive skin that really needs its’ natural oils.
It might not have been the spray that caused the memory lapse. The target was acutely mentally unwell.
Hi Tisha, this is the first time i’ve directly communicated with you and i’m glad i’m doing so now. I’ve worked at a mental hospital one day every two weeks as I work in the local court system and we hold mental health retention, involuntary medication and other hearings concerning patients. I’ve worn pheromones like IS, Instant openness, Ammo & A314 to these court sessions & hearings with never a negative effect. As a matter of fact, one of the female psychiatrists (very attractive) always flirts with me & has increased the tempo of her flirtation since I use the stuff! I am haveing a ball with it and look forward to more experimentation. I know that starlitegirl says that she wouldn’t wear the pheromones to that type of particular location (a mental hospital) but I find no negative effects by patients or staff—as a matter of fact, folks seem to be more mellow around me & visa versa! As far as the idiot male psychiatric nurse spraying a liquid (with or without pheromones) in a patient’s eyes—that’s just plain cruel and unwarranted and he should have know better! He wasn’t being very professional and perhaps needs to look into changing his job or profession! I believe that if a person who is using pheromones when he or she is at work and acts professionally using good common sense there most likely shouldn’t be any negative results. Tisha, you sure know your stuff and I’ve learned a great deal from both you & SteveO. Thank you.
Thank you for being a part of the forum and for the compliment. 
I agree with you to some extent. I should have been more detailed when I mentioned not to use them around Mental patients.
I am referring more to the womens mones and starlitegirl, There are copulins in womens products and one of the things those do is raise a mans testosterone by 130 % within 10 to 15 minutes of being exposed. Now this could cause some unwanted attention from a mental patient towards a female. It can also cause sexual aggression. So its just the sexual mones I would be wary of using. Others can be beneficial in my opinion. Ishine, IO IH all would be helpful and may give them more comfort. A314 ahhh not sure on that one I guess it would depend on the type of problem the person had. AMMO I would not use near the female patients but again your a man so if unwarranted attention happens you can easily fight it off.
Exactly. There are certain places where using pheromones would not be advised. Like a male prison… 
In this case it might be due to the general decrease in libido patients tend to have due to medications they’re on. Many psych meds do have this as a side effect. I don’t think wearing pheromones is bad in all environments. And the ones you are wearing seem to be savvy choices. There is also the fact that you are not there daily and probably have somewhat limited contact with patients. So it really depends on the situation, and in the situation described by the OP, it seemed negligent and even abusive. In your case, it does not seem like either. So each situation is different. Like if you had a boss who tended toward behavior that bordered on sexual harassment? Would you wear pheromones that would incite that behavior? I guess it depends on what you wanted and the kind of person you are.
In your case, it doesn’t seem out of line or inappropriate. Each situation is different which is why good judgment is always a wise thing. 
This scenario sounds extremely similar to the question you asked in your first post here, electronique: Gay Test
Another possibility to entertain is that our present olfactory environment is somewhat unnatural and not the one we have evolved to interpret. The use of artificial pheromones could more closely approximate the natural environment, and have a beneficial effect on mental patients by stimulating those neural pathways seldom stimulated in today’s self-consciously hygenic society.
Oh, I don’t know about that. Once I figure out that a girl is reacting well to TUTH, I put a bit more on and then I mysteriously forget all about my morals for the night.
