Check the trading post “dirty” was there
Dirty being the oil based jerk with copulins
Thanks for the tips! I really wish 314 had a nicer scent!
I’m wearing it right now, the IJ and IH combo. Seems I can really smell the NONE myself, even. Men still seem attentive. Got asked how I was going. No apparent ghosting. All good so far.
I can’t stand the scent myself
When you really pick it up, it’s a very obnoxious kind of tone to the nostrils. Even hours later, you can still catch the scent too.
Two days of IJ and IH, with the second going for IJ and 314 as well.
No negative affects whatsoever. Honesttogod genuine smile (showing facial flaws) from a chicky at work who is normally a little more reserved. Laughs and jokes from men.
I seem to think I’m one of those guys who can carry a HEAP of NONE. Should I try for two sprays?
Be that as it may, two sprays of TUTH has been known to ghost me. Why so, when one spray of IJ is equivalent to FOUR? I know there are steerers, but THAT big of a difference? It’s primarily just NONE as well?
IJ’s steering is very different and maybe less determinedly sexual compared to TUTH - I imagine that does have a lot to do with it.
I really wonder what else is mixed with it to steer?!
She knows she has you. You need to challenge her a bit.
If your ever talking about the subject and she says something like “your to good for me” or “your everything I look for in a guy” All phrases you have mentioned being discussed thats when you channel your inner asshole LOL.
Its what PUA’s call the neg.
“your to good for me” … the neg… “Yes I am”
“Your everything I look for in a man” … the neg…“Thank you, you have some interesting qualities to” emphasize the word some
Right now she has you wrapped around her little finger and she knows it and don’t be mistaken into thinking she doesn’t know what she wants. She has what she wants. You and whoever else strikes her fancy. Even if you withhold sex she knows you want her. Start acting like you don’t want her and that will challenge her.
Start getting into the mentality that you are to good for her and act like it.
That’s what makes the alpha women take notice.
On A314… You need it. If you don’t like the smell then cover it.
IJ no longer has copulins so its not the same effect as it used to be. Now its just forward and aggressive.
P80 may be a good choice
A1 would be a good choice
P75 will help.
These are all dominant signalers. You need to raise the bar at least to her level and be congruent with the signature.
Tisha
That’s the exact angle I’m trying to work now. Trying to get HER to prove herself with my own shit tests of sorts. The other day I was told I was brilliant. I said something like ‘Thanks, stick around long enough and it may start to rub off’ winky face To which I then closed the conversation with ‘my brilliance is leaving now’.
I mean, I know how to say no, and how not to be the kind ‘yes’ man to everything. I think it’s just getting her to see that. And we get along so well and agree on so many things, that I never get that big of a chance to showcase it. It’s a game I’m working on. Women are so damned complicated!
How’s my chance of using IG instead of 314? How comparable are they for my aim?
Excellent reply Keep at it it will sink in eventually. You want to leave her thinking “What the fuck he mean by that ?”
No dont do IG. Its to non aggressive and can easily back fire. I know you dont like the smell of A314 but seriously its the way to go. Do you cover it ? How long are you waiting for dry down before covering ?
Tisha
Thanks 
That’s exactly what I mean though. I have no problem defending myself or standing up for what I beleive. The option for me to disagree, say no and put her in her place just rarely comes up because we get along so well, to the point where I think she doubts I have it in me. To some people, getting along so well would be a welcome change, but I guess to others they perceive it as a weakness of sorts. Wrongly in this case, mind you.
Aww really? That’s a shame, it smells so much nicer.
I usually just hit the neck with it, wait a few seconds and then cover with something else. I always use it as a base to then cover with a better smelling phero, but it’s SO strong that when they settle, I can still pick up the peeish kind of tangy 314 scent over everything else. I ALWAYS cover it with something else, because I can’t stand the smell alone. Most anthing else is Neroli based. Do you think I should try an actual cologne? Perhaps a scented moisturizer? Body butter? I use them all on occassion.
Now that you have the mindset to challenge her place in your relationship the opportunity will become more apparent even in normal conversation with her. Its not about weakness its about balancing out your personalities as a whole. Not just hers, not just yours but how both of your personalities play off of each other. People forget that in a two person relationship there are three personalities. His, hers and ours.
You need to wait 15 minutes for it to set before you cover it. This helps prevent bleed through.
Yes you can cover with a cologne if you want.
Tisha
That’s very true!
Does that introduce the power or possibility of having too many clashing scents? Like shower gel + deoderant + moisturizer + hair gel/scent + 314 smell + neroli phero smell + cologne? Plus whatever normal scent I have too, I suppose?
In the past when I have combo’d just deoderant plus a coconut moisturizer thing (hey… I have dry hands!) she’s commented that ‘I don’t know what it is, but you smell f@#king AMAZING’, and that her bed still smells like me, etc. But no real comments on how I smell on mones. If anything, the other day a GUY at work commented how good I smelled, to which the others agreed. Weird. Lol 
It would seem that way but no it wont clash. Shower gel, moisturizer and hair gel generally have light scents that dissipate quickly.
Around 80% of people cant smell anone or the mones in A314 at all. You just happen to be one of the lucky individuals that can. Keep in mind its not the smell that causes the reaction.
Neroli blends with pretty much all other scents. Its a binder so its used in most colognes and scented products for that purpose.
Deodorant can be over powering depending on what kind you get. They have all those new cologne scented ones now and that could clash with a cologne your wearing.
Pheromones work in the subconscious. Coconut doesn’t LOL She doesn’t need to be able to smell them for them to work. They just have to be inhaled through the olfactory system to the brain. The scent is really secondary.
Tisha
Hehe I just find it funny that just a nice scent alone has got a ‘hit’ of sorts, with no phero working behind the curtains