If you are wanting to try the mixes involving MX301 and you can’t make it up from the formula he posted here. Do remember that Steve’s Evolve XS is the ongoing development of the same product (ICM mixes) and its as good as ever - esp as he now has an oil version that is powerful but subtle and shaping-up most excellently in this direction. 
Just to bring this one up to date with the fruits of considerable refinement -
Ammo - Tried varying doses of standard and heavy Ammo - nice but didn’t find it added much in any way. Dropped it in favour of NPA or TUTH which performed more reliably in most situations. There is ample moderation in the rest of the mix. Also found IJ could give it a “you’re a bastard but I love it” kind-of edge!
IO - Eventually dropped it entirely as I found it undermined the status and fallout effects significantly.
P74 - added this in the 20-30mcg range and found it compounded fallout and connection significantly, especially when IH was present. Went-on to test A314/IH/P74 extensively and found it to be a core fallout combo, along with the slightly weaker IH/P74, either could be steered simply by adding a sexual. I mostly ditched A1 for a long time after in favour of the IH/P74 paring, which had no negative self effects on me. I have picked A1-up again recently but I’m using it in other styles of mix.
P114 - At 30-40mcg, added a “commanding” layer to the whole mix whenA314 was present. Maybe replaced IO entirely when it came to much increased conversation but didn’t detract from the status much at all.
P97 - Adds a “dark fascination” element to the sexualised versions of the mix.
P103 - can be used in place of P83 and in some ways it hits harder for physicality but sometimes too hard, causing subjects to draw breath and step back, 10-30mcg dose range.
TAC - 20-30mcg for its chilled/playful moderation and sexually enhancing properties. Don’t blame me if you are dead sore for days after! You may need to up the TUTH/NPA element as TAC is another good none moderator and with TAC/P74 in any mix you may need to up it a lot but its worth it! 
MX301 - Loved it till it was dropped, then ICM2 came along for testing, which was a brief and pleasurable blast. Now I’m finding Steve’s Evolve slips very nicely into the same role and the recently released oil version is expanding possibilities further with its subtle but powerful nature.
Lots of good info there Mobo, maybe too much for me to process right now. I’m trying to find the right mix of stuff right now, since I don’t want to drop another $250+ getting everything at once since most of the stuff you mentioned on your list I don’t have at the moment. I’m going to bookmark it for later though.
I am just curious. Does it matter if she is exposed to any specifix mix, let’s say:
- once - for several hours in a row.
- several times - for shorer time periods ranging from a few seconds to a few minutes.
Which would be more beneficial?
I’ve wondered about this as well and TBH, I’m coming to the conclusion that it is highly dependant on the individual. Once is not enough, however long in any situation though as the key to success with any fallout mix seems to depend on exposure, removal and subsequent re-exposure. With 3/4 exposures being the bare minimum but most often substantially more required. Also consistency is vital in at least your core fallout-promoting components, so you need to be willing to stick with your core mix for a protracted period, although there is still a fair bit of room to vary secondaries - sexuals, P83, social moderators etc to shape/steer the mix for any given situation.
Then of course your own behaviour is an important element and it seems to be that it is very important you make each interaction have some significant impact, however short.
Great post mobocaster.
Could you give more detail on the effects as well as dose of none in your mix?:
2 x A314
Androstadienone 37.5mcg
P83 30-40 mcg
TAC 20-30mcg
TUTH or NPA
I like the idea of adding TAC, can imagine its very effective in reducing depression from A1.
I would use a pretty wide none dose with that mix. 2 sprays NPA 1:5 or standard TUTH would be my sarting point but I could go quite significantly higher depending on the woman, the situation and environment.
I wouldn’t say that none is essential for the fallout aspect of the mix - and I have had at least as many excellent fallout results based on (initially anyway) no-none combos but it does become much more important if your goals are sexual/crushy and it makes life much easier to drive an established fallout in a sexual direction.
TAC will work in that mix but its not a core component and personally I tended to introduce the TAC when we got back home and things got really horny but I did have a few rather too public for my liking incidents when taking it out earlier in the night. It was often worth increasing the none element at the same time as TAC and A1 in the mix can be rater over comforting. On several occasions I’ve gone as high as eight sprays 2x TUTH or 5/6 sprays NPA, which alongside a healthy dose of TAC resulted in some of the most wanton, extensive and prolonged sex/sex-play its ever been my pleasure to engage-in with 30+ women. Truly terrible stuff!
I can’t say that i found TAC did anything for my own A1 downers. They were far better addressed by a prolonged period of low-level exposure to A1 alone.
Good question and it depends on the situation.
Sitaution #1: I knew this girl for a bout a month or two through phone convos however we never actually met yet but the rapport we had over the phone was excellent. I went on one date with her wearing a mix of A1 and MX297 and subsequently she wanted us to be exclusive.
Situation # 2: Another girl I’d been friends with for a month. We were classmates so we saw each other frequently. She was the first person I really started testing my A1/P83 combo on and she pretty much fell in love with me. It took about 2 exposures to get it rolling and then for about a week everytime I was with her I was moned up. She was ultra affectionate and super-touchy feely when I wore the combo. She had a boyfriend as well but she apparently didn’t really care.:o
But I think repeated exposure when possible is the most desirable due to the fact that it builds consistency. If everytime she’s around you she feels comfortable, crushy, and horny then she will most likely conclude you are “the one” or something to that affect.
PS: Mobo! How’s it hanging buddy?
Guys I have to tell you that tonight I tried the second variant in Kutov’s original post, and he’s absolutely right about feeling epic. Got some IOIs at an event tonight, logistics weren’t really right for meeting anyone so nothing went anywhere, but holy smokes did I feel good. First time with A1, will obviously have to keep experimenting with it, but this combo was the best self effect feeling I’ve ever gotten from mones.
Hello, I’m in a situation similar to several other posters in this thread. I’m 20 and have a girlfriend (also 20) who has recently suggested that the two of us take a hiatus. She has expressed that she is very stressed out lately by her obligations at school and she is also on SSRIs, which can decrease sex drive. Ultimately, I think this decreased sex drive is causing her to feel less romantically attached to me, but I think that the right boost from some pheromones could help her overcome that stress and start viewing me in a romantic light again.
Given the updated info from mobocaster, I was thinking of doing a base of A314, IH, and P74 along with TUTH to add a sexual edge to things. However, I’m not entirely sure what a good dosage would be or if I should add or subtract anything to give it a romantic edge without making me seem overly dominating.
For more information on specific details of my case, please see my introduction ( Greetings! M/20 ). Any advice as to an updated combo of pheromones for my somewhat unique situation would be greatly appreciated!
I think this is what does it. You can wear different combos from time to time and as long as all ( or just most ought to do) are good, a woman will connect the comfort, arousal, joy or whatever with being around you and thus there will be a crush effect.
Hiya!
Not bad thanks - Still getting the runaround on my foot surgery but my shoulder has been treated and improved immensely. So I’m less hampered in life generally - which is pretty good!
How much do you think your relationship or level of comitment might have contributed to her wanting a break? One thing with fallout mixes is that they can cause a fair degree of dissonance in a subject who is not in a position in their life to act on the feelings fallout can encourage. If committing is an issue, it is worth considering that a lighter, more carefree/happy-go-lucky style of mix might be in order? Otherwise, if you are promoting fallout, the desire to renew your relationship, has to come from her - If she starts developing feelings again, you need to hold back until she starts looking to reconnect - Of course, this does not stop you from making use of the mix in the meantime.
Stressed, school, SSRIs - all of this can make use of an overt phero like TUTH difficult, even in a well-moderated mix. Maybe you should consider starting with an A314/IH/P74 mix to begin with as ti will support the bonding/fallout/reconnection nicely on its own and keep the TUTH handy in a togo for introduction when she relaxes and becomes more open to sexuality. Either way, the TUTH wsould be the lowest in this mix to begin with.
Something to disinhibit or steer the mix into happy/engaging territory would also be very useful here. P83 or Instant Shine are both important secondaries - I’m leaning towards IS here as it goes so well with IH and should stop the mix going into deeper/darker places. Its feelgood factor is also useful for promoting relaxation without an agenda around someone who may not feel the best in themselves. P83 is maybe best introduced when the TUTH comes out, or in more relaxed time.
Dose - Finding your A314 dose is probably the most critical as too much can make you seem daunting, too serious or too LTR-minded. So put the most effort into finding that. IH/P74 will have a wider dose range but I’d keep the P74 below 30mcg to avoid the “just friends” vibe it can impart - At least until you can more safely use a larger dose of TUTH, which will offset that nicely. 2-4 sprays IH would not be an unreasonable range to start with and IS would fall in a similar range.
Hope that helps you get started. - good luck!
Another mix worth considering might be Summer Ammo/IH/P74 - which although lighter on the fallout promoting side, is a chilled, lightly sexy, carefree, more uplifting and less serious.
Particularly the TAA and P130 in Summer Ammo have mood-lifting/comforting and relaxing properties that could be useful around her? IS would still be useful but in smaller quantities as it would steer the TAA already present.
This mix could be further steered with some A314 or IG and effectively sexualised with the masculine/sexual but less oppressive P75 or TUTH itself.
First of all, thank you very much! That post was extremely helpful!
As far as the commitment question, I am not entirely sure of the answer. Over the past year (right up until this hiatus, in fact) she had spoken openly about a desire to continue this relationship in a very long-term manner, even going so far as to suggest marriage and discuss children’s names. Also, I’m almost certain she still has feelings for me. She is still very open and trusting around me and she has indicated that she is very conflicted over whether or not we should resume dating or just be friends. It seems like one day she will be super affectionate and give me lots of hugs and pretty much do everything outside of kissing and sex, but other days she will seem to be very distant. My theory is that her true feelings for me are being buried beneath layers of stress because she is the type of person who likes to deal with her emotional and stress-related problems solo.
Based on your advice, I think I will try an A314 / IH / P74 base with IS as a secondary to help her feel in a better mood and keep TUTH handy in case she is showing signs that she is interested in pursuing something more romantic.
This month I will get to see her just about every weekend and my goal is to make a strong impression each time, promoting bonding and feelings of openness with a hint of desire in order to “nudge” her indecision in the direction of renewing the relationship.
Again, thank you so much for your help! I have a good idea of what I’m going to do now and am feeling rather optimistic about things, but any additional comments or suggestions would be very much welcomed!
Edit: Seems that you replied a second time as I was writing my reply to your first post! I think I will probably opt for the somewhat more serious combo mentioned in your first reply; despite our hiatus, she and I are still very carefree and lighthearted around one another. Since I feel that she already is showing some signs of interest, I don’t want to use a mix that is too carefree or casual because I think that won’t necessarily elicit a change in her compared to her regular behavior.
Excellent!
Choosing a mix that complements and supports your behaviours/personalities is another very important factor that is often overlooked.
I’m prone to get the blues even without the use of mones so I’m a little cautious about the A1.
Could you still get the same fallout effects if I substituted A1 with P75?
Nope, not at all. P75 is a very different phero altogether and its fallout potential seems very limited to me, if there is any at all.
If you are or might be prone to A1 downers, it may be worth checking-out Steve’s Cohesion oil. The slower/steadier diffusion of oil plus whatever else he puts in it mean its the least problematic A1 mix I’ve yet encountered.
Also remember that a bad response to A1 is a specific response to that phero, a pre-existing history of depressive issues does not mean it is any more likely to go bad for you.
And its a humdinger for fallout when used with A314 - I’ve been punting that mix in various proportions for the last few weeks and it has been really effective. I’ve got three attractive women from mid 20s to late thirties absolutely doting on me. Will get it written-up properly soon.
Another downside to A1 is the price as well as the prep that is required for it. I could be confusing this with another mone but in any case…do you see a huge difference in affect when you substitute A1 for P74?
After about 2 months I’ve just switched from P75 / P74 with some Shine and some Honesty to Commander Kotov’s mix of A314, A1 and P83 as the base, with just a little Shine and Honesty. I feel that A314/A1/P83 is a little less “aggressive” than P75/P74. It feels softer, which seems to suit my target, who acts like an alpha but is really a beta after being in an abusive relationship for some years.
I’ve had clinical depression in the past, but after a few days of using A1 I haven’t noticed any ill effects, at 25mcg. I diluted 1ml of A1 into 4ml of cologne (Only the Brave by Diesel), and there seems to have been a subtle but marked change in my target.
I’m going to stick with the Kotov mix for a few weeks (without the Ammo). No problems with A1, and seems to be generating the desired effects.
Thank you Commander Kotov, and Mobocaster and Monesmademedoit, for great advice!