Oil based Pheromones for "Instant" products

Hi Androtics I would like to suggest that you guys carry Oil based pheromone products for all the Instant Line(IH,IO,etc..). I guess this would help people living in Hot and Humid countries where pheromones are diffused almost immediately once sprayed :frowning: because of the surrounding temperature, hence higher body temperature and sweat which washes away the residue on the skin. Oil based products could help slow down the diffusion considerably to see an effect. An A314 kind of a dropper style would be ideal.:cool:

This question has been asked so often, but I do understand where you’re getting at.

The thing with oil is that, from what I’ve read, it’s not easy to make, plus it’s super expensive, so that probably means that there would be a price increase.

However, just because pheros are available in oil, it doesn’t make them better than the alcohol versions. I haven’t tried androtic’s products in oil, but I’ve tried other pheros in oil, and the diffusion is much much slower to get hits from people. Yep, it lasts a whole day, but hey with the alcohol versions, people get a whiff of it alot faster giving you more results. I find that oils are great to use with alcohols (not layered on the same area) just to prolong the chances of getting few hits.

But that’s just me lol! I hope it helped though!

Well i guess Alcohol based pheros work for you guys there in the USA because of the much cooler and drier conditions. It’s exactly the opposite condition over here so I guess Oil based products could give us the same hits you guys get with Alcohol pheros.

If you don’t mind my asking, where are you from? While the majority of people on this board are indeed from the USA, there are people on this board from all over the world. And I know of at least handful who come from warmer climates and despite reports of a faster diffusion rate, I haven’t heard anyone state that heat and humidity cause the alcohol based stuff to cease to work.

In addition from your comments I’m going to assume that you’ve haven’t spent much time in the the states during the summer, because I can guarantee you that some parts of this country get brutally hot and humid. I have spent some time in Florida this past August, where the average daytime temperature is well into the 90’s and the humidity is through the roof. And personally I really didn’t notice a huge difference in the way the alcohol based products reacted.

After skimming through your journal I suspect your problems may not be related to the diffusion rate, but your own personal ability to observe reactions you have received. Learning to recognize what constitutes a hit takes a certain amount of skill in its self. Despite what you may hear on this forum, not every hit is going to be coming from a supermodel begging to have sex with you; sometimes it’s as subtle as a moment of eye contact held to long, and out of place wink or a nod. So try to be patient when you’re trying to get a handle on this stuff. …And yes, in your climate you might have to reapply a bit more often, but outside of extreme circumstances I suspect the alcohol based stuff should work for at least an hour or two if not longer.

OK Dude I took a look at your journal to. I see your last post was about Scent of Eros, I also see you have been using Instant Openness 2X and Instant Shine 2X and using high doses.

Knowing whats in both products I would say your using to much Instant Openness and Instant Shine, Try 1/2 sprays if you can. It has nothing to do with the base it comes in.

Oils do last a bit longer but the hits are far more subtle with it because you wont diffuse as far or as fast. This is why oils generally have such high concentrations of pheromones in them.

Sprays will last for 3 to 6 hours. If its hot where you are then you can take off a hour unless you work outdoors and sweat all day then subtract 2. The scent of the neroli has nothing to do with the hits. So even after you cant smell the neroli anymore it dosnt meant the pheromones are all gone.

Oh and on the oil base question. They have been testing some things in this area and may come out with some more oils if testing shows promise.
Tisha

SC, you need to chill. Nobody’s gonna have “supermodel begging to have sex with you” for no apparent reason. I’ve started my journal ever since testing pheros. I know what’s normal behaviour and also i know the possibility of random reactions you could get everyday from anyone. You need to know that sometimes or maybe most of the time over-observation is made. Have you ever noticed how often the lady flipped her hair before you started using pheros or how often your friend kept on talking non-stop for no apparent reason? I guess not. Before you could already be getting these reactions without pheros but didn’t notice. Now with pheros on, you start noticing things that has all along happened before. Sorry if this insults SC but i don’t easily attribute these to pheros just because it happened.

My view towards pheromone’s like this - It Doesn’t work till something unusual or unexplainable happens. So please to all those testing pheros don’t easily attribute “hits” to pheros, IOI could be had without pheros. It could be because of your dressing, perfume, hairstyle etc.. It’s better to treat it with sceptism. :cool:

Oh I forgot to add.. Over here in S’pore the average Temp is similar to Florida and average humidity is 85% and up to 100% on rainy days. This applies throughout the year as we don’t experience all four seasons. You’ll understand if u happen to travel here.

I’ve actually tried starting out with a spray before working up but apparently somewhere in between i got impatient and decided to just squeeze it out more :smiley: . I’ll down the dosage and now try to spray on my shirt to see how it goes.
Also if there’s testing on oil base pheros for the instant line I’ll be glad to purchase a few bottles.

Cheers

Dude, I was a little tired when I wrote that post so I apologize if I came off as a little in your face… I was only trying to compress a hundred and one ideas into as few words as I possibly could, and the end result was that I came off as a bit snippy. Like I said it was TOTALLY not my intention to be rude, I merely was trying to help.

Believe it or not I did try to pay attention to the little things like body language signals prior to my pheromone usage… for years I was working on my “game” absorbing as much as I could from people like Ross Jeffries, David Deangelo, Mystery, etc. and things like subtle body language cues was something I totally had noted before I got into this stuff.

But when I first started using pheromones I noticed almost nothing for the longest time. In retrospect I don’t even know why continued with this stuff when any sort of hit was so few and far between. But eventually I got the hang of this stuff and I started noticing more hits, I suspect I may have been getting more hits than I first realized but at the time I really didn’t know what I should be expecting from this stuff…

And this where the supermodel comment came from; it’s not that I was accusing you of believing what I had said it’s just that if you read around this board for long enough you’ll hear stories like “Yeah I put on one shot of ammo, and then this drop dead gorgeous blonde came up to me and asked for my number out of nowhere.” Now I can’t personally verify the validity of stories like that, but I can say from personal experience is that not all of your hits are going to be like that… Unfortunately it’s just not human nature for attractive sober women to be so forward, yeah it happens occasionally but not very often.

But if your looking for proof that this stuff works, or at least something which might help you to come to that conclusion here’s an experiment you might want to consider trying: Wear a single product or mix of your choosing every day for two weeks (or hell longer if you like) and then just abruptly stop and see if you can notice a difference. I know from personal experience it’s not the days I’m wearing pheromones that I know it’s working it’s the days I’m not. And yes I see a lot less of things like the “subtle hair flip.”

I respect your quest to remain objective with pheromones, believe me that’s how I was at first myself. In fact it was probably my objectivity that hindered my ability to see the hits at first, just be patient and over time you will start to notice undeniable patterns.

Anyway I hope that clears up what I was attempting to say in my last post.

Now, men however…But you are the more forward and courageous sex!

Thanks your feedback. I appreciate it.

We’ll consider it, but we like to tweak products a lot. We can update sprays at a moments notice almost, but the oil format is made in much larger batches, so it makes us commit to one version for a long, loooong time.

It’s best to make oil products out of formulas we’re already thrilled with. Even that can be sticky, however, since the same formula needs some tweaking to into oil format. The exact same formula with the same ratios and pheromone dose doesn’t work the same in oil as it does in spray, or even from perfume to perfume. The different base mixtures change the diffusion curves of the different pheromones. Some bases emit androstenone faster, while others throw the social pheromones out in the air more quickly. It’s a bit tough to get it right.