OYess...OY's experimental scent signatures

OK, OK I’ll quit bothering the girls and go to my room and play quietly. They really didn’t seem to mind though. Y’all got some really sweet babes around here. More importantly, i trust them and the rest of y’all too. Everybody’s been very tolerant and supportive. Thank you all very much.

Now on to the business at hand. Ordered first pheros late Sat. PM(8/23) Shipped Mon Am(8/25) Recieved Wed PM(8/27), Phero day zero.

Phero day1(Thur)- 6PM Shine2X 2shots to wrists rubbed on forearms and side of neck. scent lasted 12+hr Houston trip with old partner Green. Trip was 17+hrs. no hits I was very tired when I got to the house.

Pd2(Fri)- 10PM shower Shine2X 3shot 2 to wrist, 1 to chest. lasted 12+hrs Houston trip alone 15+hr no hits no effects not so tired

Pd3(Sat)- 5PM shower Honesty2X 2shot to neck rubbed forearms stayed home. Lasted 4-5hrs. The horse (CloudDancing) drooled all over me. Even more than the usual lovefest. The dog (BilboBaggins) licked my arms (unusual) amd rolled over to get his belly scratched. He hasn’t done that since he was a puppy.

Pw2d1(Sun)at home- 11AM shower bare till 5PM Shine2X 1shot wrist Honesty2X 1shot wrist.

Pw2d2(Mon)at home - 2AM reapply Honesty2X 2shot wrist I was a little loose. Inhibitions down. Bella got the worst of it about 5AM Or was that the best of it? shower3PM Gentleman 3shots, 2 to wrist, 1 to chest. Very nice scent. Hell, it all smells good to me. Lasted 4-6 hrs. Reapplied 10PM 2 to wrist.

When I’m tired, sometimes, I just don’t have the energy/don’t want to pay attention. A seventeen hour trip? Oy…been there…fuggetdaboudit. The only thing I wanna hit is the hay.

You mean no self effects? Some people don’t get self effects and for some effects wear off over time. Some people get self effects from some pheromones but not others. While Shine works well on others around me, it does nothing for me…no Shine for Bella. :frowning: :roll_eyes:

My gf in college, who lived off campus, had a little black and white dog named Baggins. :wink:

It effects humans that way too…lol…they’ve also been known to sniff and lick application points. See what you have to look forward to? :smiley:

Oooh, so that’s what that was about. I suspected you might’ve been on the mushrooms and here it was Honesty instead…lol. Hmmmm…interesting.

BTW I’m still hungry. :smiley:

Happy testing!

Bella

Great beginnings of a journal OoohYahhh!

Ya do gotta get out there to experiment and start seeing responses, try a spritz or a few of Ammo on the girls at the mushroom farm.

Instant shine doesn’t make me feel shiny either, but pure taa (main pheromone in instant shine)does. My true happy juice though is alpha androstenol and since I have no truffles to sniff I use a lot of instant openness. :wink:

Hey Babe,

I meant WAY tired. The 24-48 hour straight turnarounds are a little beyond me now. But 17 hrs? With another driver? Ought to be a hop and a skip. Only difference was the Shine.

Maybe I’m just dense, i keep hosein’ myself down with this stuff but I don’t see/hear/feel/sense much (if any) difference.

Granted, I live out in a little country town. So I don’t usually end up in big malls or clubs or on campus. When i do go into the city it’s usually just before midnight and i try to leave just after sunup. So my social interaction is limited. On the nights I am in the cities delivering mushrooms* (3-5 nights a week) i have direct interaction with 40-80 people. (I consider direct interaction to be within a 6 ft radius assuming personal space to be a 3 ft radius.) Good news is that most of these people, probably 2/3, i have had regular contact for some time and therefore have a pretty good baseline to compare their behaviors.

*I grow at home for my own pleasure now. I was the night grower at the farm for about 5 years till i stayed after sunrise one too many times and said the wrong thing to the wrong person. Y’all know me well enough by now to know that i ‘say things’. So now i just drive around all night and talk mushrooms. how cool is that?

I guess i don’t really need all that much from pheromones. I have a generally positive upbeat attitude. The people around me are generally friendly and open. I’m usually thought of as intelligent and knowledgeable even if they do think i’m a little odd, which is OK too. What is lacking is that i don’t get fed enough or laid enough or paid enough. Maybe it isn’t that my attitude isn’t congruent. Maybe my situation isn’t congruent. Hmmm?? Hafta work on that.

BTW: I’m still cookin’ Breakfast is just quicky brioche toast and jam. But i’m starting to think about lunch. I have some nice tomatos in the crisper. Wonder what we could do with a couple of nice tomatos? Hmmm

Jezz Inky,

I never thought of sprayin’ it directly on the girls! I’ll hafta try that.

Instant Openess scares me. One shot too many and i could end up runnin’ naked. (Even more than i do now trying to get a tan out here at the ranch :slight_smile:)

PS I am as usual hooked up to the IV of expresso grade coffee. This cups for you babe!

Ha! Don’t spray the girls they’ll get all antsy and bruise the mushrooms. Spray you so they’ll know who smells so good and is making them squirmy.

A nice espresso works perfectly in the summer as I add lots of ice and sugar. I do love my hot coffee when the weather calls for it.

Ooh tomatoes for lunch, mind if I add my input? Dice the tomatoes, a little red onion too, add a nice sized handful of chopped parsley and basil. Toss with white wine vinegar, olive oil, salt & pepper to taste. Then gently fold in cubed fresh feta. Yum!

Niiicce! Now that your garden creation has had a few hours to season in the fridge, - light the broiler - slice the rest of the brioche - bout 1/2" would be right. The sugar and the eggs in the brioche should make crispy, black edged toast. (Butter? brushed olive oil? or just hot and dry? Whadda ya think?) Spread the chilled salsa on hot toast and we’ll turn the whole dang deal into a quick bruchetta.
Hey, how about one of those iced expressos over here?
Hate to do it but, i got to eat and run. I’ll be back tomorrow around lunch. We’ll see what I can get fresh at the produce market.

I know this is supposed to be about smells, scents, and aromas but c’mon people do i have to smell it out for you? Fresh tomatos, basil, parsley, onion, vinegar … doesn’t it just make your nose water?

Good mornin’ OoohYahhh

Hope you and the mushrooms are weathering the storm & influx of evacuees well.

Thanks Inky.

I’m on the west side so it’s kind of a non-event here. Even the hurricane party i went to last night was a dud. Every little burg and town around here has some kind shelter set up. The farm has donated about 10,000 lbs of mushrooms to the shelters so far.

The preparation and execution of disaster relief here is awesome. National Guard was called out days ago. Thousands of buses and amblances. Transport planes and choppers in the air night and day. Probably safe to say that right now Texas has the best disaster response plan in the world.

I know this sour grapes but, it is a damned shame that this lesson was not learned from 911 and we had to watch those poor people (literally) from New Orleans be abandoned by our inept government. The waves of misery that carried a flood of refugees to Texas were a personal experience for all of us. I’m happy to report that the lesson seems to have finally been learned.

I used live in Freeport, where the storm made landfall. Just talked to people there. Better than expected. Minor injuries, limited property damage, powers out, waters off, no problem. Riiight. :roll_eyes:

Thank you very much for your concern. The folks whose houses are under water this morning might disagree but my report is - All is well.

!WORD UP! - Read This!!!

With Power Comes Responsibility
(that’s the real title)

I’m having a hard time starting this thread. Been trying for several days. I hope that a large pot of stout black tea will help. Don’t even know where to post it. This is not chit-chat and damn sure not ‘off topic’.

Most evenings, I ride out into the darkness and spend my time among the people of the night preparing a bright new world for the rest of you to awaken to. When the sun rises tomorrow, it will certainly be a very new world. Not quite as bright as usual though.

We will awaken tomorrow to a world that is darker and bleaker than anything that all but the oldest inhabitants of this planet have ever seen. Things have been getting progressively less positive for the last few years, but from this day forward, life will become steadily more difficult for most of the people around us. Real people, not statistics. Our family. Our friends. The people we talk to and interact with in course a day. The people we pass in the street.

I am completely certain that our world will eventually find peace and prosperity. This may however, take a considerable time to develop.

Life is disatisfying. Abrasive. Off the mark. It is a central tenant of buddhism that unenlightened life is suffering.

But what we are about to see goes far beyond that. Abject poverty, hunger, depravity, criminality, and the inevitable debilitation and disease that follows. In many quarters, to simply maintain civility will be the highest possible aspiration.

While all this gestates, each of us finds ourselves standing in the midst of this most extraordinary community. Almost any one who stays here more than a few weeks has measurable improvments in multiple areas of their life. In many cases it is improvement beyond anything we had hoped for or even imagined. These are not isolated cases. It is a consistent pattern. Measureable improvement in multiple areas of our lives is the norm here. Maybe some of the old timers around know more about this, but from reading the old threads this seems to be an increaseing trend. Perhaps that should not be surprising since, not only is the phero technology steadily improving, but lively discussions of human body chemistry, psychology, and social skills has steadily drawn in more and more intelligent people who already have skills and knowledge in these areas that they then generously share with the rest of us.

With half a century behind me and well over a million miles under me, I can safely tell you that i am well traveled. I have been to some very unusual places. I have spent time with some honestly extraordinary people. Some wise beyond their years. Some who were before their time. Some who belonged to times past. I have worked with brilliant scientists from the world over.

With all that, I have never, ever, seen or heard of any thing like the group of people here. This has been an extraordinary time and place for me. I am certain it has been for many of you also.

Try this on for size;

SUDDENLY I SEE KT Tunstall – Music

Her face is a map of the world
Is a map of the world
You can see she’s a beautiful girl
She’s a beautiful girl
And everything around her is a silver pool of light
The people who surround her feel the benefit of it
It makes you calm
She holds you captivated in her palm
Suddenly I see
This is what I want to be
Suddenly I see
Why the hell it means so much to me

And she’s taller than most
And she’s looking at me
I can see her eyes looking from a page in a magazine
Oh she makes me feel like I could be a tower
A big strong tower
She got the power to be
The power to give
The power to see
Suddenly I see…

UuuhHuh, Remind you of anyone?

OK So much for analogies, lets get down to cases.

“I went to walgreens today and while I paid, the manager came over and asked me if I shopped there often. I replied that I did every now and again. He said something about a makeup consultant, offered me a job, and gave me his card! … had comepletely forgotten I was wearing pheros… I have no intention of working at walgreens but in todays job market, getting a job offer like that is nearly miraculous. Peace” - Rad47

“I was feeling 100% confident..
Went into the meeting. had the boss litereally shaking.. his pen.. his voice.. I am not sure what it was.. but in any case.. he gave lots of good eye contact and quick jokes.. (he hates everyone.. i have only ever heard horror stories of going to speak to him..)
I got my raise! Wooohoo (he told me I would get every dollar I was asking for).. and he was amendable to everything i asked. it was like I was the one running the show. it was great.
complete success” - queenie-t

“I had a MAJOR confrontation this weekend with someone from my family. I am usually the outsider, the “different” one, the fuck up. Well, with 4 sprays of mx134 I could see a respect and feel an esteem that has never been there. As a matter of fact this family member was going off all over me until he got close enough to huff the mx134 and his entire tune changed. Normally I am the family joke, the one who gets shamed into hiding their feelings, but not this time. My other family members gathered around me and supported me, which is HIGHLY unusual because the person I was in conflict with usually if the alpha family member who can do no wrong.I was supported and treated like a person. I was able to hold my head up and defend my position without buckling with shame at my existence. I felt like I DESERVED respect, and my demanding it got it for the first time EVER.It was like my stock value had gone up in their eyes. This was an amazing HIT, consistent, across the board with four adults.” - therapygirl

“When it came time for him to make his points, he won easily and handily on every issue, without resistance, and the enemies he expected to make became allies instead. The meeting ended 3 hours early with everyone on the same page going forward working together. My husband is most likely going to be spearheading the efforts going forward at the head of a small group who will have not only the responsibility to get things done and make the changes necessary, but the power and authority to back it up. He thought he’d have to fight for that, but it was pretty much just gifted to him when he said that is how it had to be.
On the way out of the meeting his boss whispered to him, “Did we just win on every single point?” Unheard of in these meetings. My husband said, “Yes we did,” and the boss just nodded and strutted out the door! LOL” - diane999

"- Dude E, who normally has an alpha male personality, was very complimentary and friendly to me, patting me on the back several times as if I was an old buddy. He did not have any problems with Distractant B sitting next to me or even her talking and focusing so much on me at times - he treated me with respect and admiration throughout the night.

  • Dude F, who is most certainly a very strong alpha male personality, was very respectful and friendly to me even though it was the first time that we had met, even offering to buy me a drink while we waited for Distractant B to arrive.
  • The biggest hit of the night, though, was Distractant E. We had originally met once previously, and I think I left a strong impression on her (phero-wise). … The effects of the mixes I had applied gave me the confidence to walk up to the bar and get the bartender’s attention (20+ caucasian female) and I was able to get our beers in 2 minutes. Distractant E was amazed at my success, and we hung out together for quite a while. The IOIs she displayed included a distinct decrease in personal space, increased comfort and attraction, strong eye contact, wide open genuine smiles, hair flipping and brushing, neck exposure and tilting of the head, face to face postures & open body language, and lots of KINO given and received. It was one of those times when I felt a strong rapport with someone, and it felt very natural and smooth." - Dancing_Joker

“so im just sitting eating my din dins in a food court, and this pommie chick goes, “mind if i sit here?” i look around and tehres a million other places she could have sat, so y here? …i say nothing for 5 mins. as she sits next to me, then she uses a line : 'so r u also eating on your own?” woww! so ive become the chick and shes hittin on me!!! trust me, this dont normally happen to me, so eitehr a huuge coincidence or im onto somethimg here…and y is she holding her hand between her legs? so i just wasnt prepared for an insatnt date so i facebook close her…wow, this is what pheromones should always do. U CAN JUST SIT RANDOMLY, GIRLS SNIFF YA AND PICK YA!..alas, possibly a new favorutie." - mahalo silver

“During getting the food at buffet i noticed nothing special, but then during eating at the table 4 persons (2 young women and 2 middleaged guys) asked me surprisingly if they could eat at my table (i was there early and there were at least 6 empty tables around me, and i prefer eating alone )
I was like “huh, strange.” because normally my negative alpha aura is repelling ppl, especially when i subconscioulsy signal them i want to be alone”
but the 2 women were welcome, the guys not
after a little chit chat and i finished my meal, i wanted to leave for th bar.
suddenly i was stopped by the arm of one of them. I had to promise them i would return huh?
so i was polite and agreed (they were around 23 only)
but what impressed me most, during the next 2 h we were babbling 5 other unknown ppl (men+women between 25-35)joined our table with their drinks. Something i am absolutely not used to (remember negative alphatype)
I had really to get accustomed to this stunning new situation.
I was really asked holes in my stomach.
My profession as psychotherapist seemed to make some impression, which it usually didnt before.
During the late evening i heard a young women who walked besides my table telling her boyfriend “hey let us sit at this cool guys table” He didnt agree though, probably he didnt like the impression i made to her.
i went to bed at 4 o clock in the morning with 5 room numbers shared and a lot “new” friends.
Felt really great to be a magnet for others (not sexually but at a buddylevel)" - Trantorx

“I’d put on three bursts of ammunition and some instant female magic. I think I put some shine on my wrists too but I don’t remember.
Anyway, I felt like I was in the zone right off and was pretty at ease with myself, even though I’d been nervous to come knowing I’d be sitting alone with B without my wife to bounce stuff off during conversation. I did not know that K was coming but she was quietly studying German as B and I chatted. I lost the thread of conversation a few times and digressed way too much but I was comfortable.
Anyway, after a while K mumbled something to B about wanting a drink. B said to K that she should use the money she had. Then K revealed that she’d put the money into a vending machine and it had not come out - money or soda.
Well, as I was in the zone I got to my feet and said “Leave it to me”. I headed to the machine and tapped it once where the money goes in. Fifty pence tumbled to the change drawer below and I proudly took the ten paces back to B and K. B was pretty impressed but K, a typical teen, just pocketed the money with a sullen look and mumbled “there were two fifty pences”.
And here’s where it gets interesting (finally).
I nod my head in confidence and get to my feet. I take two steps back towards the machine to go after the second stuck penny and EVEN BEFORE I REACH IT the money tumbles out!. B was amazed. I put my arms out and said “Wow, was that jedi powers or what?” B agreed and commented that even the Fonz had to physically touch the jukebox to get it to work.
Okay, I know that the pheromones had nothing to do with this. But I wanted to share. Its really true as I have written it.” - sexygamedesigns

Need more? Many of us have own versions of social success beyond anything we had hoped for.

Although I suspect it has happened before, we are only beginning to tell the stories of love and honor.

“Just a quick note to say hello and I am still and around ,however, taking care of my friend has not left me much personal time. But she is chipper and doing well enough through her treatments and loves having me around to lean on. I feel great being there for her through this time.I feel useful.
I was wearing Instant Shine around her until I ran out. She seemed to respond fairly well and I wanted to keep it simple for her system after everyone’s great advice.
I tried TAC around the Chemo Center but no responses from her or anyone there. Maybe it’s one just not meant to be there yet. I am wanting a full size of the IS but will not be able to afford any in the near future. I was greatly surprised at the response from her and others in her medical care team. I sure see a difference now after the ToGo has run out.
Well…if I get a chance to get out and try any of my others or if I accidently find enough funds for a full size IS …I’ll be back soon…if not she is my “all encompassing focus” right now. I want her survival and happiness to be number one so I am there every day to encourage Love,Light, and positive healing energy to her mind , body, and Spirit.” - Mystrys

“Are you kidding? Can’t afford one? Why would an angel have to afford one? I am sending a bottle out immediately!
With great people, like you, willing to do this for their friends it would be my honor.” - SteveO

“Steveo and Mystrys, you guys are in my heros list today. I’m all glassy-eyed infront of my computer screen, if I just could squeeze you both with a big fat hug. … I’ve never seen anybody use pheros in this way (this is my first time) and Mystrys you have definately changed my point of view about it in a good way of course. We need more people like you in the world!” - msselva

“I can identify, as I watch my mama struggle and deal with Mulitple Myeloma and it is hard to see the ones you love so ill believe me…so to all the people in the world who make it their business to be there, I mean really be there…we are angels working here on earth.” - djacquelyn

*There is a lot more to this this thread. I’ll get back to you with the next installment in a few hours.
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I agree. I’ve learned a lot in my short time here. Thank you very much to the people whose shoulders I stand on today. :smiley: I never saw that post from Mystrys and SteveO – that’s the kind of stuff I hope to see in the world.

Mmmm..fuzzies.. :slight_smile:

With Power Comes Responibility

The ‘force’ is truly with us. It is becoming stronger by the day in many of us.

What is this ‘force’, this thing that is happening to so many of us?

It is easy enough to rationalize as intelligent people with powerful chemicals.

We have been given the privilege of open access to virtually unlimited stengths of the most powerful behavior influencing chemicals available anywhere on this planet. We are intelligent, educated, experienced people who are the brain pool, the think tank for the laboratory that manufactures those chemicals. We have more concious control over the use of these powerful chemicals, singlely and in combination, than any other people in the history of humankind. Is it any wonder then that our results are out of the ordinary?

That should explain it all, right?

“I know you believe that pheromones have all these super powers but they really dont I assure you. They are subtle in nature and synthetically. I have been using them going on 8 years. I have studied them for the last 4 and if they did I would have taken over the world by now” - tisha23

And that is from a woman with a pocket full of magik.

And then there are the remarkable social skills that some us have.

“I figured this would be an ideal time to project an alpha signature and so I applied a drop of A314 behind each ear and streaked it downwards. Having interviewed recently for another job, I was fully suited up, complete with overcoat, new boots, haircut, everything.
I get these, ‘Holy hell, Admiral on the bridge! Yessir, nosir, three bags full, sir!’ reactions when I’m wearing the suit, so I know that when I feel like working it, I can damned well work it.
The A314 did its job too.” - MuskCloud

Still, there are too many instances where there is a synergy. The sum of the parts becomes greater than the whole. As though some catalyst that facilitated the reaction by its’ prescence but was not a direct part of the reaction.

More in a few hours. (betcha can guess where this is going)

OoohYahhh

Great post OoooYahhh.

Your right it is a fantastic community and the members here like yourself with a always upbeat happy attitude that makes it so fantastic. :wink:

I do have a question though…

Why is today going to be darker ? What happens today that hasnt happened ?

People like SteveO and myself always believe that tomorrow is just another opportunity to make the world a better place. To make it shine. (pardon the pun) If you believe in the darkness or that the world will be bleak then it will. Believe in the light and the chance for a better tomorrow. Each little kindness that we do, Each time we are there for our fellow humans we brighten the world around us. Together we can illuminate the world. One kindness at a time.

I look forward to more installments :wink:

Tisha
reps

With Power Comes Responsibility

I have been almost 2 hours before i sat down to reply, just to enjoy the smile that you have given me.

You are way ahead of me. Out there on point, right where we need you.

I would appreciate it if you would occasionally look back over your shoulder to see if i’m still grinin’ because i feel the need, the responsibility to slog through the gory truth of all this. I know your question of ‘so whats the problem? where’s the beef?’ is common. I wish i could be asking myself that question. This is the part that has made all of this so difficult to write.

Do you remember the stories that your grandparents and great grandparents told? Inevitably some of them were about times in the ‘great depression’.

In the 20’s, my grandfather and his partner were mink ranchers in the mountains of western Pennsylvainia. The pelts were harvested once a year in the fall when the fur was thick and full. Every October they would load their furs on the train and travel to New York City to sell them directly to the furriers. Their third year was a good one. On the train ride home they celebrated that they were firmly in business. They were about to become wealthy men compared to coal miners they lived among. Arriving home late in the afternoon, the bank president actually kept the bank open until they could make their deposit. It was Friday. The bank never reopened.

No doubt your families have their stories, told many times over. These were times of legend. We are also about to enter times of legend. Our stories will be told for generations to come.

I pray that they will be stories of love and kindness. Stories of friends and families and communities that came together and protected each other and helped each other through difficult times. There will be stories of ingenuity and initiative. And determination, and desire, and passion. We will be the heros and villains of these stories. It will be our tears and our laughter that are told of for generations to come.

Almost all but the youngest of us, will need to work a job for all the rest of our living days. A great many of us, including the very young and the very old, will search for work as long as we can stand and walk. Wages will be low. Taxes will be high. The working class will become the poor. The poor become the hungry. The elderly depending on retirement income will crowd the shelters and bread lines. Government services will be strained to the max. Especially local governments. Public health controls fall by the wayside. Disability and disease are wide spread and largely untreated. Oh, and food is in short supply too. Don’t forget global warming.

This not just the United States. We are for better or worse, now one world. Some places will be better. Some places worse. Even in the best places, these will be hard times.

This ain’t gonna be pretty, folks.

I know that some of you are thinking,‘he’s a little over wrought from listening to too many talking heads’. Since Thursday evening, i have listened to 4 hours of the BBC world service. No other news or websites. I don’t know what my 401K is worth, nor do i want to know. This unfortunately, is a calm, level perspective.

We all have talents. One of mine is the ability to visualize economies. I have been told it was a gift. Today it seems more a burden.

What to do?

The best i can offer you is to find the joy in everyday life. That first cup of coffee this morning seemed somehow precious. Bathing was a joy. There was wonder at watching a hawk land. I choose to live as Thoreau counciled us, to suck the marrow from life.

Our work here? Those decisions are yours. If i could offer a few small suggestions it would be this; Anytime you get a belly laugh, you lifted a burden. Anytime someone walking past you smiles, you can mark coup. It is a victory.

yahtahey

OoohYahhh

“Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway.” - John Wayne and Bella

Hey y’all,

Got the angel Tisha to move this stuff from the lounge to a little more private place in hopes that it will some how be a little easier to write.

What i see has made it very, very difficult for me to write these posts. Never the less, i have a responsiblity to tell you my friends, my community, what is ahead of us. I hope that each of you has enough weeks or months to prepare your home and family.

Equally important, we must prepare to be of service. Each of us has strengths and skills and talents far beyond ordinary. With that power comes responsibiliy. The responsibility to be of service. Choose your targets. Prepare yourself.

Yours,
OoohYahhh

PS i really have been working on scent signatures based on a signal to noise ratio theory. i’ll post it somewhere.

What exactly do you see coming OoohYahhh?

“But what we are about to see goes far beyond that. Abject poverty, hunger, depravity, criminality, and the inevitable debilitation and disease that follows. In many quarters, to simply maintain civility will be the highest possible aspiration.” (There’s more in the other posts)

The macro future is a little more than i have the nerve for at the moment.

Right now i’m working on a plan to deliver food to the food banks. I can’t afford to step out and buy a tractor trailer just yet, but that’s going to be my focus.

One of the first groups that will be affected will the elderly trying to live on retirement incomes that are now slashed. I’m hopeing that it will be 6-8 months before i need to begin supporting my parents. Depends on where the market bottoms out.

Gettin’ dark. Gotta go. I need to take mushrooms to the city.

Think about it. You know what to do.

Step up. Handle it.

OoohYahhh

I guess what I’m asking is, do you expect riots and such within the year? Are you saying that this recent economic collapse is the precursor to a much larger, devastating crash? Are you saying that although things look okay right now, bad things are just around the corner?

Is modern civilization about to collapse?

If so, let me know, because preparing for an economic collapse is one thing, preparing for mass riots is another.

I’m not asking in jest, I’m serious. I get that things aren’t good, banks shutting down is never a good thing to hear, but I haven’t been around long enough, let alone aware about US/world economics to fully understand what the implications of all the recent events are.

Civilization will survive. There will be peace and prosperity.

But it’s gonna be a long way between here and there.

Think modern version of the ‘great’ depression.

OoohYahhh

Are you referring to the economy ? I mean I know the economy is going through a rough patch right now. Its not the first time and it wont be the last time. These things run in cycles. Its the universes way of reminding us that we are human and vulnerable. It reminds us to become greater then our material selfs. There can be no light without the dark.

So while its scary watching the news right now and looking at your 401K (I lost 18,000.00) in one day. The economy will eventually snap back. People will adapt and overcome and yes some will experience pain and hardship that will make them stronger in the end. Such is the circle of life. Its the universe saying “Hey wake up and look what is really important around you”

I have heard the stories of old from my parents and grandparents. Some good, some tragic. They taught us many things. My Grandfather was a American Indian. I can live off the land if I had to. He made sure all of us could but they taught me one thing that I hold true. No matter what I have or dont have. No matter how hard I have to work. No matter how many times I fall down and get up, if the ones I love and who love me are standing beside me then I am the richest person in the world. They are the lights in the darkness. They are the reason you wake up not your 401K. You may ask why I am not more upset about losing 18 grand in one day. Because money comes and go’s but humanity, spirit and love remain always a steady force in the darkness. My grandpa used to say something to me when I was little. Life is not about having what you want, its about wanting what you have. Dream of tomorrow but live in the moment because if you spend all your time dreaming about what you dont have you miss what you do have and in the end you are left with nothing.

So yes the world may be about to see some hard times but from those hard times emerge strong people. We talk about Alpha and Beta personalities in here alot. This is when you will see the Alphas clearly. They will be the ones pulling the others out of the darkness and into the light. I am a seer, just another gift from my Indian heritage. Where some see only darkness I see light. Yes, surely there will be some darkness because without it there can be no light. Such is the circle of life. :wink:

Tisha

PS Great post, I have to spread the love before I can rep you again.