I’m going to test them on their own first then with mystery boy. But I don’t know which to try first? Any preferences anywhere? I think a couple of them have been pretty extensively tried out on their own?
I have those and only tested P74 and P79 so far. I really like P79 and had good results with it. I wont say what kind of effects in this post cause I dont want to influance your results and I want to see if you get the same reactions as me. I used mine alone and then with the drive him crazy mixes as well as MX216.
Cant wait to hear your results and Oh by the way Love your Mystery boy posts.
Well, I’ve been wearing 75 mcg of P79 today , and just P79. As noted before it seems to have quite a subtle effect on me. I don’t get a buzz or any edginess off it.
It did encourage me to get down to a couple of chores - I would have done them anyway but I think it hastened the process of starting.
Looking back over the day I have been a bit more “focussed in the moment” than usual - not dramatically so, but somewhat. I have been dealing with one thing at a time and not thinking about other matters so much. I seem to “get into” things a bit quicker and focus my attention on them a lot more. But it is subtle - I don’t catch myself thinking “Strewth, I’m concentrating hard on this”. I haven’t noticed any impact on others. Just mainly on myself.
Useful, I’ve used it with TAF in the past at a lower dose and the effect of TAF and P79 together is stronger than you would expect after using each of the products alone.
I think I concur with the thinking that this deepens whatever you are into. It will be interesting to try it with Mystery Boy.
I self tested P79. I have to work from home today so today will be another self testing day. I think I will have a go at P88 today. I won’t be seeing too many people today. So this will probably be more about self-effects. Think I will use 4 sprays which will be 50mcg
Unless anyone has tried other dosages and thinks I need to go higher or lower?
Okay… initial thoughts are that perhaps 50 mcg might be a bit too much. Feel very soporific, dazed and generally “out of it” like I am a bit stoned.
It’s got an oily languid kind of opium den feel to it. It would be a good “stare into someone’s eyes” kind of kick. It’s not overtly sexual, it is sexual in that heavily sensual way and at 50 mcg kind of altered state type sensual. Slightly narcotic - but not “class A edgy” narcotic.
Very interesting - would be good in intimate situations and romantic situations but not for trying to get work done! It’s seductive, in an intoxicating manner.
I think I need to try this again at a much lower dose and around others.
I could certainly have fun with this in the bedroom
try going back down to 25mcg, or even down to a smidge (5 mcg) as a note in a more symphonic mix. one adapts to the effects of P88 after a few wears. see tacitus posts (or its in the putative spreadsheet).
did you feel a bit less human and a bit more like a lizard, by any chance?
Er.. not sure about the lizard bit. Just really lanquid and liquid and very out of it. I reckon it could give you some really wild sensual and almost psychedelic dreams.
To put it simply it was like being stoned, but not chemically edgy. It was oily, viscous, heavy without being oppressive and sensual. There was a degree of feeling like you were in your own “bubble” but there was room in that bubble for others. But not in a clubby type of way.
It’s always hard to put feelings in words, but you know the filmic representations of opium dens? The sort of old Hollywood ones, very heavy-lidded and sensual. It had that kind of kick.
I could imagine sex on this, or sexual/ sensual physical contact would be pretty damn good - I think you it would really tune you in, not just to the experience but to the other person. I think it could be a bit of a “bonder” in the right environment if you know what I mean. It’s strong and almost heavy at the dose I used - but it isn’t harsh. I got a massively stronger reaction from this than P79 which was fairly subtle on me. It’s definitely strongly psycho-active.However, forget trying to write your annual report if you are wearing it.
By the way, where can I find the putative spreadsheet?
Havingseen Steveo post that his woman responds to high doses of P83 I coated myself with a humongous 75 mcg this evening . I also thought if I piled it on I would notice the effect and could then reduce if necessary before using it on public or with the Mystery Boy
I used a 12.5 mcg to go spray in standard fragrance
One spray to each side of the neck
Two sprays to the chest
One spray to each wrist
Initially it wasn’t great. I was reading and sitting there frowning with a of tension headache across the top of my eyebrows and, yup, I was grumpy. So, I stuck my wrists to my nose and huffed the stuff as hard as I could to see where it took me.
It’s actually quite strange, because for a while (about 15 mins) the angry mood and the headache lifted and it felt kind of warm and fuzzy, comforting with the merest tinge of sexual frisson.
But then I was back to scowling and having a headache. For some reason this gives me a bit of a short fuse and makes my head hurt - at least at this dose it does.
It also seems to have a very detrimental effect on my ability to hit the right keys on the keyboard.
I’ll try it again at a lower dose, but a high dose definitely makes me a bit moody.
I have been wearing 25 mcg of P83 today and that is totally different from the overdose level stipulated above - where I tried 75 mcg. If I were to smell this on a man, it would be the vibe I would associate not with a man I wanted to have a quick fling with - it’s more than that, but the vibe of a man I know would not only show me a wonderful time in the bedroom, but the kind of man who would ALSO (not instead of) stick around.
Ideal for most women - an unapologetically masculine pheromone that speaks of a man who is not only sexual, but reliable and “grown-up”. It’s sexy and “grown-up” but it is definitely sexy first!
This definitely - to my nose - speaks of comfortable, but highly sexual long-term relationship material! In short- if my experience is typical - this should be socially recognised anywhere and be very magnetic to women.
But I still have to discover the effect this has on men when it is worn by a woman… I think I have to go shopping tomorrow!
Oh I do like this one… sorry for the delay on this thread, but firstly I was stuck at home writing a report and then I had to traipse across the country to stand up in front of a bunch of strangers and deliver that report…
People really seem to LIKE you when you wear P74. They seem to feel comfortable approaching you, talking to you, and staying talking to you. In fact they say “hi” you say “hi” and then they sit down next to you and stay there… GREAT!
I’m not sure how it works - but I want more of it. It’s not like they are hit with some kind of vulcan stun gun or something, but they just seem to behave as if they have known you for ages and enjoy your company. Conversation just becomes really natural..
Love it.
I used… er rather a lot… simply because for me as a relative newbie using a load of something gives me an fast insight into what it does and then I can figure the dose - if that makes sense?
I used 5 to go sprays of 12.5 mcg one split to the back of the hands
One for each side of the neck
One to the cleavage
One to the back of the neck, the nape..
I know a lot of the guys really like this product for socialising. I haven’t searched to seem what the ladies here think of it.. I will later… but I think this is also great in some business situations.
I made a lot of new friends/ contacts while I was wearing P74 - it just seemed to make me a bit more relaxed and outgoing and also make people want to talk to me and enjoy talking to and being with me. If it makes people well disposed towards me I’m using it for meetings too
Don’t leave us hanging, how did the P88 experimenting go (no result is a result as well )?
Also, any more insights on P83 - does it, at lower doses like 25 mcg, still give off the vibe a that you thought it did earlier: “an unapologetically masculine pheromone that speaks of a man who is not only sexual, but reliable and “grown-up”. It’s sexy and “grown-up” but it is definitely sexy first!”
This is a bit weird
I’ve tried the P88 at 25mcg at two different times now. This is a really weird one, the first time it did not effect me at all. The second time - today - I have not enjoyed it. In fact I’ve had to wash it off.
Two thoughts are coming to mind - this may have a different affect on me at different points in my cycle. Or because it is a bit trippy, a lot might depend on the mood you are in at the time, so if you are relaxed you get a trippy relaxed feeling, if you are stressed you get a “bad trip”.
Usually, I like the smell of P88. Today as I sprayed it on I thought “God, this stinks”. Today, it gave me a headache right between the eyes. Oddly I have noticed a lot of pheros give me a bit of a tingle there when I first apply - but this was uncomfortable today and it also made me, almost instantly, irritated.
I don’t like it today. Not sure if it is a cycle thing or a mood thing. I know I am at the more fertile stage of my cycle at the moment. If I can remember I will try at the lest fertile stage.
Have any of you seen different effects on yourselves or women around you that could be linked to hormonal cycles? I’d certainly appreciated some advice from more experienced users to help me figure P88 out.