P75, P95, P83, Beta-androstenol, TAA

Made this oil base composite up about a week and a half ago. I’ll let you know later if it worked the way the alcohol composite did. Using ‘David Hess’s Maniac’ in the composite as the cover scent. Blended 1:1 with the phero blend. :slight_smile:

P75 21mcg
P95 42mcg
P83 40mcg
Beta-androstenol 35mcg
TAA 40mcg

Sounds freakishly interesting :slight_smile:

Interesting indeed! And a high dose of P75, hmm, I wonder what that will do.

Thanks, Steve! It was interesting.

Bear in mind everyone that this was made to be oil based as opposed to alchohol based. For info on how I make my oil based composites, please see here.

Product name,scent and strength
P75 21mcg
P95 42mcg
P83 40mcg
Beta-androstenol 35mcg
TAA 40mcg
David Hess’s Maniac (oil based cologne scent- Sandalwood, Ivy and Tobacco- smells awesome)

Application dosage and locations

This is an oil based composite of the above ingredients

Rolled on about an inch on the top of each hand (and worked it in with the top of the other hand)
About 2" to each side of the neck

Enviroment tested in.
Auto
restaurant
Retail store

Self effects.
Phero induced sinus pressure that disappeared after about 10-15 minutes. I felt the need to sit/stand straighter and felt very focused. Some mood improvement in mood but I was in a pretty decent mood to begin with. Kept feeling the need to breathe deeply almost like I was in a more meditative state.

Effects to others
The woman I was meeting, I’ve gone out with a few times with different phero combinations so I have an idea what to expect from different combinations. Met her at work and drove to a local restaurant (something of an institution locally that has a log cabin theme and AWESOME pizza). She gets into the car and immediately starts complaining to me about her day. After about 30 seconds I hear her take a deep breath, so I look over and she has this Amy Adams type grin (sort of a variation on the Cheshire Cat). ‘Hi.’ Then she is off and running. This girl likes the -nols and she gets very talkative. Meanwhile as we are driving (about 10 minutes) she is getting more touchy and cheerful. I got a lot of compliments from her on some odd things today. Nice shoes, the part in my hair is cute, I smell really good today, etc. Holding onto my arm as we walked. More of the human velcro type of effect.

The waitress was very chatty with us and I kept getting refills. I would still have 2/3 of a glass and she would be bringing me another Pepsi. My ‘friend’ (hoping soon to be able to write GF) found it very funny. I started watching and nope, nobody else was getting that kind of service. She complemented me on my eye glasses. I was getting complemented by both of them. Over some silly stuff. Waitress told the woman I was with that I looked like a great guy and she should treat me well or (the waitress) might have to steal me away. :roll_eyes:

Wal-mart for some items. Nothing from 95% of the people there. If I would stand within about 5’ of someone for more than about 15 seconds I’d notice them moving closer. I did this 3 times. I’d get close enough for the phero cloud and they’d do a variation on a DIHL and be looking out of the corner of their eyes at me. I move a few feet away, they move closer and pretend to look at something. I move isles and 2 of the 3 people moved with me and closely. Cashier was normal at first but by the time I left she was in a great mood. I don’t know how I feel about being flirted with by a woman who is 20+ years older and outweighs me by a good 50# (yeah, call me Shallow Hal but it was a definite phero hit).

Duration of effects.
At least 3 hours (I can still smell the cologne (~7.5 hours after application) so the pheros are probably still working but I haven’t been around anyone so it is tough to tell)

Effects from mixing with other products.
n/a

Range
No more than about 6’

Time exposure.
Seemed to take at least 15 seconds to really take effect. After a few minutes of exposure, the compliments flew.

I tried this composite in a few alcohol based incarnations and did have success with them so I decided to take the plunge and give it a whirl. My woman friend really seemed to like this (she is very much an androsterone girl and even if P95 isn’t androsterone, it seems to work in a very similar fashion for me). Gives me a bit of status with her. Also seems to work with others. I got compliments today on pretty much everything I did. Wild. I do get something similar when I wear IG and P93, however.

The P75 seems to help her feel more ‘girly’ because I’ve noticed this makes her more flirty and thinking more romantically (not quite as ‘in your face’ as androstenone can be).

P83 brings her closer not just physically but also verbally disinhibits her. I had on the Sandalwood scented ICM 1b around her and between the beta-androstenol and the P83 I heard a lot of Freudian slips that night. :stuck_out_tongue: She would accidently say what she was thinking like how much she enjoys certain bedroom activities and then she’d blush because she couldn’t figure out why she told me that. She also gets very close when I use P83 around her. Always has at least one hand on me or arm around me. No P83, not nearly as velcro’d.

Beta-Androstenol makes her feel a connection with me. I really like her and I know she’s been hurt in the past (which I don’t intend to do) so this helps her to see me as someone she can trust (I am).

I tried this without the TAA and it seemed to me to ‘feel’ too serious. The added TAA seems to lighten the mood and make all the P83, P95 and Beta-androstenol not quite so serious. I don’t usually get a very serious vibe from P75 but in higher doses I do so this also steers things in a more fun, flirty way (which I like a lot).

The cologne is one that really sticks close to the skin so that is something I have to be mindful of. I’m not wearing the Common Scents knockoff of Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille which seems to be noticed at 10’ or more away. This is a much more intimate scent but it does work well for more ‘close quarters’. I did get an awesome goodbye kiss when I dropped her off at work. :stuck_out_tongue:

Sweet report I was curious how such a high amount of P75 would play into things I’ve purposely OD on it and didn’t like the results one bit, but it seems from your post like it ccould be buffered like none… my mind in now racing with the possibilities hehe…

Please keep in mind that this is in an OIL based application. I’ve diluted the phero blend 1:1 with DPG and plant musks from AD. It diffuses much more slowly than the alcohol based P75 I have used. Generally, I use P75 at the same amounts that I would androstenone.

I think I’d better go back and edit this so it is more clear that the only reason I was using 21mcg of P75 was because it was an oil. In the alcohol version I had great results from 3mcg of P75 combined with the other pheros listed.

I’m thinking that will be a great mix for a dinner date.

It worked very well for a lunch date so I could see it being awesome for a dinner date! :slight_smile:

Snoop you should work with androtics so they can start selling some of your oil mixes. These things are great! I still have the ICM 1b oil and it’s still pretty effective (in warm environments :wink:).

Two reports right in a row…

Okay, I had taken some of this composite (oil based with the ingredients above) and mixed it 1:1 with Original Vetiver cologne in a 5ml bottle. It doesn’t seem to plug the sprayer since my friend didn’t complain about it.

I’d given it to him telling him to try it at the bar on Friday night. He wasn’t too sure about trying something from a plastic tube but he saw my last GF so he gave it a shot. Hasn’t had a GF in 3 years or so and I figured if anyone needed phero assistance, it was him (not to mention that it would prove to me that this mix was working well.) Want to tell if pheros really work? Give them to someone who doesn’t know they are wearing pheros.

He put 2 sprays to his neck (one to each side) and a spray to each wrist (he was terrified of being ‘cologne guy’ but since the cologne was half as strong as normal I assured him it’d be alright- it was alright). He went to a local club with a few people looking to try and unwind and hopefully get a few women to talk to them (in PUA parlance he and the guys with him would fit the definition of an AFC). Very nice guy but not necessarily up to picking up a woman at a club. I’ve never seen a woman look at him much less chat him up at a club. Just to set the tone.

He was hilarious when he called. Told me that he wanted me to get him a gallon of that cologne I’d given him. He wanted to bathe in it. I was giving him the third degree so I did get a pretty good detail on the night. He sprayed on the OV/phero mix and felt like Arnold in The Terminator. Felt really outgoing like he could walk up to any woman and get her to dance. (He dances like Herman Munster, by the way).

He said that as he pushed through to the bar he noticed guys would move and women’s heads would snap around as he would shimmy by. He said he was getting uncomfortable because he thought he had too much cologne on. (Nope, just spreadin’ the phero love cloud.)

All night he had women staring at him. He’s there about an hour when he finally decides to talk to one. He decided to ask one about his cologne and he said she sniffed his neck and dragged him onto the dance floor. From there, women were in a circle around him and he got 3 phone numbers. Even had a woman buy HIM a drink. :cool:

I did get second hand confirmation from a friend who was there who was mad because the guy ‘abandoned’ them to hang out with a bunch of women. Talk about sour grapes. :stuck_out_tongue: From the way I heard it, once he started dancing his Herman Munster dance (and I assume started sweating pheros) it was a bunch of women all dancing around him. It sounds like he didn’t have any idea what to do once they got interested. I can relate, I was so out of practice at dating that it took me a while to get into the swing of things but I don’t think he’s really every swung before. Having women practically throw themselves at you can be overwhelming.

It was funny but it shows how pheros can have a big impact on us as well as the people around us.

Second report…

Not nearly as exciting as the first one but I’m still happy with the results. Took my lady friend and another couple to a 150 year old steak house in a small farm town. GREAT FOOD. (And it is haunted so- bonus!)

Okay, I always get good service there but I had taken some of the unscented mix and put it in a 10ml bottle and rolled ~2" onto each side of the neck. Let it dry and covered it with Common Scents version of Very Irresistable for Men. During the drive I noticed that after the first 5 minutes or so everyone got VERY chatty which isn’t too out of the ordinary. What was different was the fact that everyone agreed with me. I should have proclaimed myself Mayor of Bikini Bottom to see what anyone said.

At the restaurant the waiter was frighteningly attentive again. I felt like he saw me as being the most important person there (not quite to the degree that MX297 does but definite status elevation) and my lady friend and the other woman seemed to be addressing me much more than the other guy present. My lady was really flirty with me, acting kind of coy and just very happy to be there. (Things are going well enough I’d better get moving on Valentine’s day plans). The other woman also kept looking at me even when we were eating.

All in all a very good day.

I like how the place was haunted and the waitress was frighteningly attentive. It all adds to the ghostly ambiance. Sounds like it was a spooctacular night :slight_smile:

Snoop, I need to sign up for your class, when does registration begin? I want make ensure I get a seat.

A while ago on a whim I’d combined the mix above with alcohol based Original Vetiver 1:1 in a 5ml bottle and gave it to a friend for testing. Someone who didn’t know he was wearing pheros, just that it was an ‘aromatherapy’ cologne for him to try. He had a GREAT night at a bar and refused to give me the bottle back. He used it all to very good effect (against my advice- at work of all places- guess he was looking for a sexual harassment lawsuit)

He has been asking for more so I made some up with Original Vetiver again as well as a 5ml bottle 1:1 in Guerlain’s Vetiver. Same composite as above except I added 20mcg per spray of Androstadienone (A1) to it. I let it composite and then sprayed on some of the Vetiver (as opposed to Original Vetiver- confused yet?) and was amazed at how much stronger the scent was even though it had been diluted by half. I really feel that the plant musks I’d used in the DPG of the phero composite are what make the scents seem so much stronger. I’ve used DPG without the plant musks and it doesn’t have this effect.

I had a very good day with Vetiver today. Same effects I always get from this composite but I am amazed at how well everything worked out with this. I get unbelievable longevity from the scent like from an oil, yet I still get very nice diffusion and sillage like from the alcohol. I will have to try this again sometime. The nice thing is, it makes both the phero oil composite and the cologne scents last twice as long. Very economical.

Test: Work
Product: Snoopyace mix
Amount: 3 sprays

Notes: I received this mix from Snoopyace. It is Original Veviter scented. I believe with A-1. The scent is good. :slight_smile: It is a nice change of pace as I usually use a lot of citrus colognes. I used 3 sprays, 1 to each side of my neck and 1 on my wrists. No real strong self effects. However I am slowly losing many of them with other products as well. Not a big deal. One thing I did notice later was a confident walk, and I had upbeat confident thoughts. I had some B-Nol talkativeness as well.

Effects from others: Car ride to work. I gave a ride to my Mother in law. It is about a 10 min trip. She was definitely touched by the cloud. LOL. She started fessing up to things she did at work that she was not supposed to do. Little things that were not a big deal. She asked me for advice. She told me about stuff that she was mad at herself for not doing. She touched my shoulder 2 times while talking. B-nol, P83, A1 effects right there.

When I got to work, I walked passed a support lady, that is very nice. I have known her for 3 years, normally when she sees me we say hi, and that’s it. Tonight she said my name with a huge smile. It was odd enough to put my mind in a paranoid state. I was wondering why she all of a sudden knew my name and why she was so happy to see me. Oh yeah I am wearing a phero mix.

I had the hiccups, so I took a break and walked past a supervisor. She got the biggest smile I have ever seen on her. We exchanged pleasantries. Odd as well. Especially paired with my previous hit.

I did notice that a man that normally would conversate with me, was a little aloof tonight. Not sure if the mix or what. I will follow up with more testing around males.

I also had the other B-Nol reactions from others, so those are not listed, they were balanced, not a ton of people yapping off at the mouth, I was not effected by it at all.

Overall it is an awesome mix. It seems better than many MXs that I have tested. If is this successful without A-1, then I would submit it to be made into an MX. Wonderful job Snoopyace. I will continue testing. I really want to test in public/shopping. I can see crazy hits rolling in.

Thanks for the report Andrew! :slight_smile: The 5ml bottle you have does have A1 in it.

The first batch of this I made (I still have some left) was A1 free so in my opinion it doesn’t need it to make it work. I really like this composite because it seems to act more than anything else like a social lubricant. People just seem to like the wearer. There is definitely an element of attraction that brings women in as well.

Ahh, I see Snoop finally added that A1 into the mix! Lol, I’m glad you did Snoop and it seems to be working quite well! Guess now you have your very own MX116 eh?

Yah know what? At least in Original Vetiver and Guerlain’s Vetiver scents this feels quite a bit different from MX116 but still VERY nice. I do get some self effects from it as well. The important thing to me is that others seem positively affected. :slight_smile:

NOOOOOO!!! So much for making another batch of this any time soon! P83 is out of stock! I have been wondering about substituting the P75 for androstenone and the P95 for Androsterone but P83 is pretty essential as far as I am concerned. I had thought about substituting P103 but that is out of stock as well. Oh well.

Before I can report any more on this Snoop, you need to give it a name :slight_smile: