So I bought P83 and literally know nothing about it. Could someone recommend great complimenting pheromones for this product and if this pheromone is a social, sexual, or status pheromone? I believe it’s a sexual one, but I honestly have no clue. Everyone just says it works amazingly on women. 
P83 is a good pheromone to use in combination with other pheromones
P83 has mainly a disinhibiting effect, and its effect mostly follows whatever the effect of the other pheromones you are wearing do
So for example is you are wearing a social + sexual mix then adding P83 may make the woman more likely to act on her attraction for you
I’m interested in trying out Summer Ammo + IS + p83 in the club, e.g.:
1 spray Summer Ammo, most people put to chest, but I like putting -none somewhere where I wont get as many self-effects from the -none, such as back of neck
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2 sprays of double-strength IS, I just like IS
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perhaps 30mcg of P83, or 15mcg if I want to tone it down abit
Some people like mobocaster have suggested wearing a social sexy mix which is mostly just social, (e.g. mainly socials with just 1 spray of Ammo (or ammo SE) for that sexual mix) and then later on as the night progresses and a woman has shown interest in you, and it appears that the time is right to begin moving towards a more sexual relationship (and perhaps some mutual kino has already occured, or not, it all depends on the social dynamics between you and her) then later on apply some TUTH + P83, to hit her with the highly sexual signature of the TUTH and the P83 which is disinhibitory and helps with the effects of the TUTH, and of course assuming you know how to make a move, start makin some moves ;- )
So really P83 is a great addition to any mix, some people use slightly more P83 when there is more -none in the rest of their mix. P83 is good for helping out the effects of whatever else you have used for the mix
The most common description of P83 is always:
Disinhibitory
Can amplify emotions that are felt from being around the other pheros in your mix
Can make her more likely to Act on whatever else she is feeling from the other pheros
Many many reports on P83 working very well with some of the more sexual pheromones as well, taken from the P83 product page:
and of course:
which is about P83 being useful for mixing with other pheromones, and P83 really helping along other pheromones 
If we have a look at one of my reports here: Quick Report: P83. IS. TUTH. IG Quick Report: P83. IS. TUTH. IG
We see the women behaving very congruently (or heck, I saw the congruency, even tho I didnt write down every single little thing as it was just a quick report) with the effects of IS + TUTH (and of course P83) even if I wasnt quite ready for the Super Hot Babe like omg, you know those Miss whatever competitions they have, or even a Miss Something bikini contest, she should be in one of those, and she’d be one of those chicks who was in the top 10 of the group (assuming a big group: )
i.e. not the ugly straggler who manages to get into the competition, but just one of those top tier 10 women who are very hot and who should definately be in the competition
Yes so I shoulda made a move heh, but I hadnt been out in AGES or gaming at all for quite a while was taking a break, have been very stressed out and this night linked above was my first night out for a long while, wasnt even planning on talkin to any women lol just wanted to catch up with a mate. And i’m pretty fat now, I used to be in good shape and got plenty of hot women, now I’m pretty fat and hot women are still very interested in me for some reason, Why? lol
Sounds like a perfect pheromone when alcohol is involved. I feel almost guilty if it works that well hahaha.
It is none of those!
P83 is used where appropriate in a secondary/steering role alongside your primary social/status/sexual pheros for its disinhibition and space-closing properties.
When using it, very broadly you need less alongside a social mix and more alongside and overt sexual or high status mix. The dose range seems to be from @20mcg through to @80/90mcg. Go much over 100mcg and it can start to work against you because the subjects may be disinhibited but they can also be disinclined to do much more than just laze around you.
what I find strange about this product is with AMMO it does exactly what it’s supposed to do. however when I wear it with L2K, it puts them all in haze. like people literally just stare and linger around like their in space.
It doesn’t state it has p83 in it, but it makes you wonder…
Yup - That is exactly what I get with any overtly sexual mix where I’ve gone significantly over 100mcg P83. It could well be that L2K has something very similar in there?
Another thing - I’m not clear on what kind of mix L2K is exactly (so could you enlighten me please?) but if it is a majorly social/comforted mix, the effective dose range for P83 alongside it could well be a lot smaller.
It’s a more serious version of Ammo. very slow diffusing, makes people stick to you and get “comfortably sexual”. I don’t put a lot of P83 about 45 mcg, but the damn thing wont make anyone initiate or stick around too long, and when they do, you have to pull teeth. It’s like they have something to say (because the mix attracts people like honey) but once the convo starts it’s like their brain resets and they get stuck. it’s crazy how blatant it is, because im a very social person but without fail when I have this on it does that.
I’m getting ready to try L2K with TAL, but I don’t want a togo bottle I want 30ml.
Interesting - thanks.
It could be that something is enhancing or adding to your 45mcg P83 here. Hmmm…! With a social mix I’d usually dose P83 much lower - As low as 10/15mcg but seldom more than 30.
Yes, TAL or what about something like TAC or TAF, that might be the key to unlocking it better?
Well. L2K is a very poweful stand alone - They will give IOIs but no Kino. they sit back and wait for you to grab - Im great with IOIs (but not initiating kino), I’ve been using the IOIs to land dates , however, on the dates, when someone ‘expects me’ to do something I feel like Im put in the spotlight, and THAT is the only time I get shy. When things flow naturally I’m flawless, but this mix is making them awkwardly patient in anticipation, if that makes any sense?
I’m wearing TAL, not for me , for them. basically it’s a WAKE UP AND KINO INSTEAD OF STARING AT MY LIPS WITH YOUR BOUNCY CROSSED LEGS.
once she touches my hand, Im on it. 
If I could make a recommendation I would advise to use caution when mixing anything with LIIK. If you have LIIK v1 the only potential fine tuning I would do is add a teeny bit more none to it. But LIIK v2 has more none than v1. I unsuccessfully mixed TAC with LIIK on Friday. I am tempted to add 1mcg of none and another 2 or so of p75 to see if I can turn it into a more overtly sexual 'here I am, give me IOIs so that I can come and get you ’ mix.
So in summary it may need a bit more sexual (but with the caveat to exercise caution so that you don’t OD on the none)
Been out of the loop for a bit whats L2K?
It’s a product by another pheromone manufacturer.
it is manufactured by alpha dream. it is their ultimate mix for men and is short for licenced to kill. it comes in 2 versions. v1 has less none and maybe one or two other molecules than v2. if I were to try and compare it to, AD products I would say it is a combination of IG, ammo, shine, androstedienone and one or two other Mones. it is meant to be alpha , sexual with some social.
A word of caution: the maker of this product has had some severe issues with shipping and cust svc complaints. Like waiting 1-2 months to get product shipped. There are probably better alternatives.
very valid point. just also to warn any UK buyers to watch out for additional UK duty costs that seem to have to be paid before you can get the product delivered. I would also agree that the shipping times can take a longtime (say approx 2 to 3 weeks for the UK) and customer services will probably ignore your email.
over to the products themselves, there is one product that I really dig called certo which works wonders if you have a significant other. it promotes bonding on deep levels. The products have a very oily base and are veryhard to mix with other products given they have lots of different mones each . it is certainly not as easy as sticking some ammo on and then adding IO or shine on top etc. For any beginner to using mones I always recommend getting a314, ammo, tuth and shine as their basic order. IO and IH if I am honest are quite priceyfor what they do but nothing comes close to a314 from any manufacturer from my experience so far.
quick question to a veteran, am I breaking rules by commenting on non AD products?
that’s a great description. For a Kino product what products would fit that description??
Hey I’m looking for some help.
I just received my p83 10mcgs.
I put two sprays on with 5mcgs TUTH and 25mcgs TAC..
The last time I had this much TUTH and TAC on, the wife went crazy for me, but now, with the p83, it seems to have calmed her down. She seems a little irritable, while I feel like I’m floating on cloud 9.
What’s a good way to use p83 in a sexual mix?
Should I add more and go up to about ~40mcgs-ish?
She does seem to be more calm like me, but I feel like all sexual was has been diminished..
I did notice however, she seems to be comfortable with whatever I do to her so that’s a plus.
Use P83 only on unknown woman because you never know how they react. Take the old signature for the/your wife, they like it and never change a winning team. A new combo is every time a hit or miss…
Ok thanks.