This will be the end of my first week using pheromones and I have to report that they seem to be working. Not quite sure how just yet and I am still learning to read hits. I do however seem to feel self effects on most products I’ve tried thus far. A314, Instant Shine 2x, and Turn up The Heat smells real good.
Anyways, I was wondering does anybody have experience with using pheromones to promote better sleep? If so which ones and what’s your technique? I have tried everything anybody can name prescription and herbal over the past 4 years and all seem to be bogus. I just thought if self effects work for mood and confidence boosts maybe they can for sleep as well.
Thanks everyone, get your pheros on for new years eve.
I’ve used all sorts of mones for the past 5 years haven’t noticed any sleep enhancement. If anything, mones tend to stimulate you. Many have reported sleep problems initially, probably due to the excitement of exposure to something new but this tend to fade as you grow accustom to mone use.
I battled with sleep problems for many years and have managed to whip it. BAsically I tossed and turned all night and felt more tired in the morning than when I went to bed. For me, the main problem was eating impure food. Now I was in denial for years and blamed and tried everything else before reaching this conclusion. I’m sensitive to preservatives and pesticides, and foods with these chemicals simulate me and make it difficult or impossible to sleep. So I reduced food intake to eating only what I need and what food and drink I consume is always organic. And no soda, junk or processed food! Of course, eat early, small amounts and no heavy sugar or caffeine during dinner. Also, a good workout earlier in the evening saps my energy and makes sleeping easier. I also try to empty my mind and avoid thoughts about work, relationships, etc., prior to sleeping. It helps to read something boring like the Bible or an estate planning text! I know a basic lifestyle change sounds simplistic but it worked for me. Drugs and herbs didn’t do jack for me either.
I agree with Gegogi. They tend to keep me up more then help me sleep. Not really cause I am excited to try something new but they help prevent the brain from resting because your neurotransmitters are busy firing off signals. (Thats my theory)
If you have trouble sleeping dont eat for 4 to 5 hours before bedtime. Learn to meditate, there are good resources online. Get a tempa pedic. Dont use mones for 4 hours before bed if the bother your sleep.
Although with my first days of testing IO, TUTH and IG, I would have a fantastic deep sleep on the night after testing, I guess maybe my neurotransmitters had got a heck of a workout and my brain truly shut down for the night. It’s not an effect that lasts though, when one gets used to the pheros normal quality of sleep will resume.
Bnol shouldnt induce sleep. This one makes you sleepy Diane or does it make you sleep deeper ? I use it all the time, its one of my favorite molecules but I never heard this before.
Beta Androstenol is so very deeply relaxing for me that it is a good sleep aid. Every time I’ve had trouble sleeping I spray on 1 or two sprays at 10.0 mcg/spray and I’m off to sleep like a kitten.
Also, I read a report from someone with PSTD who had a terrible time sleeping. He used a very high dose of Alpha Androstenol (Spaceland) and it enabled him to sleep, and sleep well for the first time in a very long time. I have Alpha Androstenol, but I haven’t tried it yet.
Thanks, that is a bit different then the information I have compiled. Not to discredit your findings or anything. I am just wondering what has caused this effect for you and this person with Post Traumatic Stress. I have found that the nols create a cluttered busy mind, that when used close to sleep causes sleep disturbances. Which is why we tell a lot of people not to use it right before bed since others have reported on this frequantly.
Now I think you had mentioned you had ADD, If I am mistaken I am sorry its hard to keep everyone personal info straight. I wonder if the opposite reaction has something to do with that. My son has ADD and dosnt sleep well. Maybe I should try some bnol or anol on him and see what happens. Of course with his permission LOL
Good info, reps, It may seem like I am disagreeing but I am not. I am exploring possibilties.
Do you feel sleepy immediately after high Androstenol exposure or a few hours later, like an afterburn effect?
Originally Posted by blondie1view postAlso, I forgot to add that by 9:00 I was really really tired and sleepy! All I wanted to do was crash and go to sleep even though I had not done anything physically exhausting.
I’ve used chemset beta nol for years and it has never made me sleepy. If anything, it helps light up the verbal centers of the brain. Good for long conversations late at night…
No Offence but you need to read the whole post Diane. Yes Lor did report on it making her sleepy the first few times she wore it. After she acclimated to it she didnt have those effects. When asked even at high doses it subsided. Remember that the forum is not the only place Androtics gets data or myself for that matter.
You will get the tired effect in many molecules the first few times you wear them. TAA is a big culprit for that. This is common and was the issue with most of the above posts you sighted. It was just in the first few uses.
However I believe the origonal poster is asking for something more long term and once these users became acclimated after 2 to 5 users it did not promote sleep. You need to look at the whole picture, not just what a few members report, this is what tells you what a product does and why it takes so long for them to move products up.
No offense taken, Tisha. I read the entire thread, and others. Marik and Tater have stated various times that they find the nols sedating. Neither of these posters mentioned acclimating and lessening of that effect anywhere. They just stated they find the nols sedating. Not that this matters. I am reporting my findings, not looking for effects from others.
Not everyone gets much self effect from pheromones. I get tons. Other people get tons of self effect. Now I may be misremembering, but it seems to me Gegogi is one of those people that doesn’t get much self effect from much of anything. Gegogi, if this is incorrect, please feel free to correct me.
As for as acclimation, a few days not wearing a pheromone corrects that. Otherwise no pheromones would be worth the investment in them. I have acclimated to P102 and P103 and I don’t find them so sedating any more, though they continue to tweek meo-est exactly the way they did in the beginning with no abatement. I did feel massive sedation for the first month testing both of these Putatives.
Acclimation doesn’t always happen. I’ve been wearing beta androstenol every day for the past three months. It is still relaxing in my mixes. It still promotes sleep. When I am mixing I still have to spray that molecule in last or I forget what I am doing from the mist blowback (I have 50.0 mcg/spray betanol). I screwed up too many mixes and have too many ‘mystery’ mixes because of beta androstenol… and I finally learned that lesson!
I haven’t acclimated to it at all. So obviously the effects I find with beta androstenol are not attributable to first-timers effect.
I am not sure what the problem is here, Tish. Are you trying to tell me that my findings are not valid? Do you want me to report my findings or do you want me to do a forum search first and only report what agrees with the majority of testers or with the advertised effects?
It actually makes quite a bit of sense to me. The reason being is that perhaps when BNols are working they lull the user to feel intense comfort with others, or with themselves. I know that when I feel comfort with others, I tend to give out more information, hence why BNols are in my ICM mix and also IH. Also comfort is what I like to feel when I’m sleeping. There is nothing like a comfy bed and all
Nope no sleep apnea for me. I have had the overnight hook up to tons of sensors hospital studies and no breathing problems. I loved dropping 2 gs even with fantastic insurance coverage to find out absolutely nothing to help.
As Tisha stated also I was looking for a more permanent aid. Am I correct in saying a tolerance can be built up quite fast using pheromones?
Yes, that is exactly it. That intense comfort is what I see in my husband and in myself when we snuggle down for a long talk when weare both wearing a mix with Beta Androstenol. It makes things safe to say that wouldn’t be said otherwise. It also makes things safe to do that wouldn’t be done otherwise. It is a core element in all my sensuality mixes, one I wouldn’t want to do without.
I haven’t tried it yet, but from what I’ve read Alpha Androstenol is more of a giddy, motor-mouth, unfiltered, uninhibited, blabbing pheromone. You don’t get that at all with Beta Androstenol.
Using Beta Androstenol alone I never have a problem choosing what to say or how to say it. I’d never insult anyone while wearing it, for example, nor have I ever been insulted by someone else while wearing it - a problem sometimes reported by wearers of Instant Honesty.
