Alright guys so I have a kind of obscure question but figure some of the more experienced pheromone users have a strong view on it.
The past 2 girls I’ve liked at my school are very similar. They are blonde (slightly dirty though), skinny, blue eyes, funny, relaxed, and somewhat intelligent. However, there’s one problem. They both have boyfriends.
One has been just a few months but they are clearly very close, and the other has a boyfriend of a year and change that she lives with.
I don’t see the one with the boyfriend of a year and a half but do see the one with a boyfriend of 4 months.
So do you guys wear sexual pheromones around girls that have boyfriends if you like them, or do you respect the relationship and just move on from her? I really like this current girl, and she clearly liked it the times I wore 2 ammo and 2 cttm2 or just 2 ammo around her.
I’m not saying I am trying to break her up with her bf, or that I am even able to, I’m just curious your moral standpoint on wearing sexual pheromones around girls you know have boyfriends? I’m thinking about stopping around this girl.
The problem is that the class ends in two weeks though and I will likely never see her again (huge school) if I dont do something, but morally dont know the protocol in this situation.
In short, do I give her my number or is that a shitty thing to do? AND is wearing ammo around her to make her attracted a shitty thing to do? Thanks guys
I’d make sure I have her contact details, but not make a move. Call me a man of sentiment or whatever, but if she does turn out to be the one, and you have kids, and they ask how you two started going out, what would you say?
“We started seeing each other while she was with her boyfriend, and then I stole her off him, causing huge emotional turmoil for him”.
Kinda shitty, but that’s just me.
If she’s really worth it - wait or (go for it if you’re 100000% sure - though it doesn’t really sound like it). But if you’re just wanting her for the sake of something to store your junk in (colloqually speaking) - respect her and move on.
There are over 3 billion other girls out there. I’m sure you can try for one of them.
That’s just where my moral compass lies, I’m sorry. But you wanted opinions!
Nothing to be sorry for man, thats exactly the kind of opinions i need and am asking for.
“If she’s really worth it - wait or (go for it if you’re 100000% sure - though it doesn’t really sound like it). But if you’re just wanting her for the sake of something to store your junk in (colloqually speaking) - respect her and move on.”
Pheromones won’t have her fall for you if she’s truly in love with her/their BF’s. Pheromones aren’t that strong, I wish at times that they were but they won’t risk causing a girl to fall for you just because you’re wearing pheromones. On the other hand if she does show interest most likely it’s because of yourself, she isn’t really into her/their BF’s, or probably because she’s just being friendly on par with the social aspect of the pheromones and not the sexual side of it. So if I were you I wouldn’t worry about it, because this doesn’t sound like it may be related to pheromones but leaning more towards an actual emotion that would’ve been there pheromones or no pheromones.
Definitely appreciate the diversity of responses from you guys
I know pheromones arent that strong, but ive got to admit, my chemistry/personality with 2 ammo and 1 cttm2 seems to be working well and congruently for building attraction. I’ve only been using that combo on and off about 4 times so am yet to do much with it, but girls seem to respond really well to it. Hair brushing, constantly staring at me, blushing, seeming somewhat sexually frustrated, and more.
Therefore, for me, the case you present is a strong gray area. How much is just me? How much are the pheromones?
At this point in my use with these products, I am going to assume the cttm2 opens her up to the conversation more than she would be without it, which is what I need the most because I am introverted. That’s not a moral issue to me, it’s just friendship.
The ammo intensifies this girl’s interest in me. When I didnt have it on around her, we shot the shit like good friends. Very slight sexual interest, but it was there.
When I did have it on, the talking diminished slightly, we acted like we still knew eachother well, and there was a very strong element of sexualness. For me, ammo basically made it what I imagine it would be like if she DIDNT have a BF already. It definitely is leaning towards a natural feeling so thanks for that distinction
No problem, if you are sure that she’s showing interest sexually speaking then there may be an attraction for you hidden in her mind that for whatever reason she doesn’t want shown (besides the BF reason.) However, she does have a BF so if she continues to show interest and act upon those interests then she clearly doesn’t care for her BF, so in the mean time what I would personally suggest is to just stay a good friend and wait to see what her next move will be. Not sure about you, but I’d respect her relationship. Plus like I said, if she does have an interest for you it’ll come out eventually but just don’t be the one to break them up.
Ya I wasnt sure if I was even going to give her my number but now I figure I will somehow but blatantly not sexually/ “call me when you break up” kind of thing. I have some major issues with girls cheating and would never knowingly let a girl cheat on her boyfriend with me. Poll results are surprisingly close which is interesting, at this point I think I still will wear ammo around her.
Personally I do both… I wear pheromones around anyone and everyone because I never know who I am going to meet or run into. But just because I’ve got pheromones on in the presence of someone doesn’t mean I’m trying to have sex with them; If a girl is in a relationship I’m going to lay off no matter how attracted to her I am. I mean if she was your girl you wouldn’t want other guys trying to get with her, so it’s only fair.
Ever think of sending her a facebook invite? It’s a great way to keep in contact with chicks without going for the number ask route.
I don’t use facebook. I had an account for about a year and a half but thought it was too contrived and fake with everyone I knew trying to gather friends but then not knowing/talking to the vast majority of them in real life.
While it does hinder me socially at times, it makes me a lot happier overall.
I think I’ll just hand her a piece of paper or a number on the back of someone’s business card that I have and just say something if you ever want to reminisce on our times in “this class” call me and we can grab something to eat. or if i fail “this class” can I call you for some help?
It’s the only class I have ever done pretty shitty in, I am definitely not an artist and it is an arts class.
Asking for her number because you enjoyed the conversation and could legitimately see yourself being friends with her = fine
Wearing Phero’s around her = fine… wearing AMMO around her because you know it creates sexual tension = See trying to steal her from her boyfriend
With Phero’s the morality is largely to do with intent…
Oh and for numbers to keep in contact - Friends swap numbers, you have hers and she has yours… I don’t think I have any friends whose number I don’t have but they have mine or vice versa… that is reserved for people I’m trying to date
Ware pheros: Yes. Why shouldn’t you? even mones are really powerful influencers they will not make a woman drop her man just because they had a phero reaction.
Ask her for her phone number: Definitively, someone already said it: Friends exchange numbers.
Steal her from her boyfriend: Noooooo!!! It might be possible and maybe even slightly tempting but believe me it is not worth it at all in the long run.
Thanks guys, definitely have a good idea of what I’m going to do. Still plan on wearing mones around her, giving her my number or asking for hers or both, but not stealing her. That was my plan at the beginning but just wanted to see what you guys all thought.
I wear pheros all the time around married girls and attached girls. Big deal. One of my friends gave a very overly uncomfortable sniff at the TUTH on my neck and told me it made her gooey in her midsection. Every time she sees me, she goes for the sniff. She’s very much in love with her b/f and I’d never challenge that. Maybe it’s an age thing, but I just don’t have the time to start any drama. Does my cologne turn you on? Do I turn you on? Are you just horny and can’t stick by your guy? Who gives a sh*t 'cause I’m not going there with you.
I keep that boundary up, and I don’t have to worry about getting between a girl and her guy.
Don’t overstate what the pheros can do. As Tisha use to say, it’s only 10% of the battle. The other 90% is you, so pay closer attention to how you act around your friends than what pheros you wear.
Yes wear pheromones around her. They wont make her leave her boyfriend if he is the one for her. Remember that pheromones are just a small part of attraction. She has already established attraction and connection with her boyfriend. She may still find you attractive but unless you aggressively pursue and can make a closer connection and you have other attributes that she finds more appealing then her current boyfriend she wont just break it off or cheat on him, she is just admiring. Just like men do when they are involved and see another interesting women.
While pheromones are great signalers they do not make anyone do anything they are unwilling or do not desire to do.
If your friends and classes are ending and you wont see her its fine to say “hey lets keep in touch” and get her number. Keep in mind she has friends and women talk. Its another form of social proofing. She is saying things like “Hmm conundrum12 is getting pretty hot”. Never hurts to get that verbal buzz going.
Well what to say…It depends how far you want to go and what you really want.There was a renaissance italian polititian who had a tremendous impact on modern politics and state principles of all modern states.His name is Nikolo Makiavely.Here is one of his quotes:
"Politics have no relation to morals." If you want success, if you want to be in the place of the boyfriend you should not bear in mind some vague moral principles whitch do not contribute to your interests.If you have too much moral principles in the end her boyfriend will continue having interresting intimate relations with her, and you…Well you will have interresting moments regretting how come he is with her and you - not.
My ex ( and I hope to return her, because even after the breakup we have some romatinc tension goin on) was some friend’s girlfriend.BUT when I saw her I got hooked because she is just my tipe - a little chubby ( I dislike skinny woman), natural gold blonde, light eyes, verrry big breasts and suuuuper beautiful face.So what did I do?Have morals and let her be with the other guy?And masturbate alone in the closet?NO.I had to have her and tried everything I can.Didn’t use pheromones though and not because it is immoral but because I severelly overdosed on -none and didn’t use androstenone products in quite some time.But in the end she duimped him, and become my gf.And we had extremelly pleasent time together.And now when we broke up she is still somehow in love with me, because when we meet she’s all smile and talks about the past when we were together.So decide for yourself - you prefer to have some morals or the girl.For myself I know what I want and how to get it.And guess what - women dig it.
I really do like this girl in the class. She’s cute, funny, sweet, but not over the top sweet. She is very down to earth and doesn’t care about how she is perceived. She’s one of the cooler girls I’ve ever met.
The issue is I’ve been cheated and don’t quite understand how cheaters can go to sleep at night happy with themselves as human beings. I think it’s one of the most dishonest and shady things someone can do. While I’m over it emotionally now and don’t talk to the girl who cheated on me ever, even though I do occasionally see her at school, I will never cheat.
So the real thing is I don’t even want to encroach on an immoral territory while she is in a relationship. From a purely moral standpoint, I want their relationship to dissolve without influencing it. However, from an emotional standpoint, we have just 2 years of college left each and I could easily see them riding out the relationship for that long because it’s a safe, nice, and decent relationship is what I gathered from how she described it.
Yesterday I thought about it a lot. I kept imaging how much better my life would be with her in it. I’ve never thought like that before about any girl. I actually never think my life would be that much better with anyone in it except for my best friends, and this specific girl. I guess it’s my first “crush” in about 3 years which is kind of a big deal.
So do I really value my potential relationship with this girl more than her current relationship with that guy? I think I have to, I only live once and owe nothing to her boyfriend who I have never met. I realized I at least have to give her my number and interact with her without worrying about her boyfriend, as long as I don’t actually hook up with her unless they are broken up. Worst case I get a friend, best case I get a gf. It’s a win win
Morals - Girls are in abundance in the world… your morals come in only 1 flavour.
This idea that you need to have this one girl because you had a connection with her comes from the scarcity mindset that there is only one girl out there that you will have this connection with.
It just is not true - There is an ABUNDANCE of girls with whom you can have an amazing connection… literally there are hundreds of thousands of girls that you might find amazing.
Casanova - You stole this girl from her boyfriend and now you find yourself single and wanting her back (which might very well be the situation you left her ex in). How did that decision to sacrifice your morals for a girl work out?
NEVER sacrifice your conscience for someone - it is never (NEVER) worth it in the end.
Well now - you’re too soicially programmed.Live, care, understanding, ext - bullshit.They exist, but in one in a 1 000 000 at lest.B e a little more man, man.Noone willget the girl you want for you.I want
it too someone to get me girlfriends - well that’s impossible 'cause the person who can help me is ME.
So listen me carefully - ask yourselfwhat you want with women and how to get it and then follow the plan you made.Use pheros as an enchancement to your play, but not as the only part of the plan.
Embrace it.
NO.I had to have her and tried everything I can.Didn’t use pheromones though and not because it is immoral but because I severelly overdosed on -none and didn’t use androstenone products in quite some time.But in the end she duimped him, and become my gf.And we had extremelly pleasent time together.And now when we broke up she is still somehow in love with me, because when we meet she’s all smile and talks about the past when we were together.So decide for yourself - you prefer to have some morals or the girl.For myself I know what I want and how to get it.And guess what - women dig it.