Research Oriented Pheromones Description + Product Value / Ingredient Guide

Product Value and Price Guide(Not exact, but its close enough.)

A-1: Must Home-brew it. Follow this guide.


A314: About 80%(?) AndrosteR0NE, with some AndrosteNONE and 7 other pheromones in the mix as well. This is an oil based, “drip it on” kind of product, whereas the rest of the consumer line that I’m explaining comes in a spray bottle. 23.8mcg per drop. 280 drops per bottle.
Regular Strength($110) = 61mcg per $. 39cents per drop.


Ammunition: About 33% AndrosteNONE, 33% Alphanol, 33% AndrosteR0NE. 7.5mcg per spray. 200 sprays per bottle.
Regular strength($50) = 30mcg per $. 25cents per spray. Double strength($70) = 42mcg per $. 35cents per spray.


Instant Gentlement: Mainly AndrosteR0NE, with one more unknown pheromone. 15mcg per spray. 200 sprays per bottle.
Regular strength($40) = 75mcg per $. 20cents per spray.


Instant Honesty: About 70% Betanol, 30% Alphanol…roughly (actually a 3rd pheromone) 15mcg per spray. 200 sprays per bottle.
Regular strength($50) = 60mcg per $. 25cents per spray. Double strength($60) = 100mcg per $. 30cents per spray.


Instant Jerk: 15mcg of pheromones: 12.5mcg of AndrosteNONE, 2.5mcg of copulins + other? 15mcg per spray. 200 sprays per bottle.
Regular strength($48) = 62.5mcg per $. 24cents per spray.


Instant Openness: About 70% Alphanol, 30% Betanol. 15mcg per spray. 200 sprays per bottle.
Regular strength($40) = 75mcg per $. 20cents per spray. Double strength($50) = 120mcg per $. 25cents per spray.


Instant Shine: 12.5mcg TAA, 2.5mcg of two more undisclosed pheromones. 15mcg per spray. 200 sprays per bottle.
Regular strength($40) = 75mcg per $. 20cents per spray. Double strength($60) = 100mcg per $. 30cents per spray.


Turn Up The Heat: 2.5mcg of pheromones, primarily androsteNONE. 200 sprays per bottle.
Regular strength($30) = 17mcg per $. 15cents per spray.


Pheromone Descriptions
I tried to pull most of my information from reliable sources including(but not limited to) Mharris, Jasmin, Tisha, and Steve. I know there are other guides but if you’re like me, you’ll want to know even more, so here’s what I’ve gathered. I think this is about as accurate as it gets without testing these yourself to get personalized results. Also, I’m NOT encouraging any new users to go buy the experimone versions of these pheromones. I am simply trying to describe the general results that most people get from each of the specific mones that are used in the consumer targeted androtics products listed above.

Androstadienone(A-1)** WARNING: ANDROTICS NO LONGER SELLS PRODUCTS CONTAINING THIS BECAUSE OF THE RISKS OF DEPRESSION. MANY PEOPLE CLAIM THE RISK IS MILD AND COUNTERABLE WITH A GOOD BUFFER. THATS UP FOR YOU TO DECIDE, AND ITS UP TO YOU TO USE THIS PHEROMONE RESPONSIBLY This was the primary ingredient in the now discontinued Instant Female Magic. I just read from Mharris that there were 10mcg of A1 per 15mcg of total pheromones per spray. This is the closest thing to a love pheromone, as it has been reported to help induce caring feelings. Implies masculinity, but politely and not in an inappropriate way. Elevates mood in women, its great for relieving pms symptoms, and its excellent at buffering androsteNONE. However, androsteNONE when women are on their periods is still not a good idea, like always. It makes girls more comfortable and relaxed around you, and can increase cuddling, etc. Promotes a feeling of warmth to the effected. It also activates the hypothalamus in women (think sexual part of the brain, at least as far is A1 is concerned), though its not arousing in a way like androstenone. Studies also indicate that it might increase how attractive a women finds you, as does androsteR0NE. The main downside is that some men experience depression-like symptoms ONLY WHILE WEARING THE A-1, but there are great buffers for these pitfalls, including EST, which is like A1 but gender reversed, or Shine(primarily TAA). It should be noted that A1 converts to androstenol, and then to androstenone when it is exposed to excessive bacteria on the skin, so avoid spraying in sweaty places. 0-25mcg=generally safe, 25-50mcg=warning (for depression), over 50mcg=no longer are the positive effects increasing, while the depression spirals. However, many people report 50mcg to be an optimal dose when buffered.

AndrosteNONE(use in moderation)-creates strong sexual desires in many women. It has a strong masculine vibe behind it, like a high school jock. Used for creating lust. Also gives a commanding authority, which can create a problem when faced with another male who is “dominant,” causing possible aggression to arise. Can increase your own self confidence or assertiveness. Older women like it more, but mainly because of their own securities and experience. Younger women still like it(though they are more sensitive to it), but they are generally more subject to becoming intimidated. Higher doses increase these risks, and induce the possibility of you coming across as a jerk…but then again, some chicks dig that. This is terrible when combined with a pms-ing women. Almost always need to use -none with a buffer to avoid women being too intimidated/stand off-ish, as well as increased aggression in other males. The younger you are, the less of this you need. Also, if you have type “O” blood, you naturally have more of this pheromone. Remember, with androsteNONE, a little goes a long way.

AndrosteR0NE- Gives a masculine vibe, but not in an inappropriate or sexual way. It promotes respect, but isnt so much for authority unless paired with a “backbone” like androstenone. To explain, it helps people listen and care about what you have to say, but on an “I’m on the same page with you level.” Its kind of a smooth, charismatic, suave kind of product that gives off an aura of safety and reliability. It can make you seem as if you are older/wiser than your age. Also, it can help a women view you as more attractive, but again, not so much in a sexual way. A study was done where dozens of women were shown the exact same photographs of some men and asked to rate their attractiveness. Half of these girls were unknowlingly exposed to androsteR0NE while viewing the pictures, and showed an increase in ratings of attractiveness. The best results for androsteR0NE are usually reported when using it in conjunction with other products, instead of as a standalone, though some have good results when applying that approach. Also, androsterone is spelled with an “o,” not a zero. I had to use a zero in the title to keep it from auto-completing it to say androsteandrosterone. The same goes for both of the nol pheromones below.

Alpha AndrosteN0L**- One of the best buffers for none(probably second only to A-1), since it makes you more approachable/less intimidating. Makes women more talkative, and bubbly. Its considered an “ice breaker” for conversations, though somewhat mellowing in conversation quality. People see you in a “softer” more fun light, which is great if you come across as too serious. If you’re borderline flamboyant, avoid this. Possibly increases attraction, as it can create a “blanking effect” to those exposed to it, similar to the blanking effect you might get around a crush. However, not everyones brains jump to the conclusion that you have a crush on someone just because of these symptoms. Seems to increase quantity of conversation rather than quality. Also known as Alphanol

Beta AndrosteN0L**- Very similar to alphanol in its conversation inducing qualities, but slightly on a more serious level…Basically its better for quality of conversation rather than quantity. For this reason, its great for increasing trust and intimacy. People are prone to telling you more personal stuff, even if you’ve barely met, as it can give off the vibe that you’ve known the person for a long time. It can buffer OR enhance -none, depending on the woman’s intentions. For example, if its a drunk party girl who wants some no strings attached fun, this might make you seem too serious. However, if its a girl that you’re in a relationship with, or close to it, it can very much enhace the effects of none, on a “making love” level instead of just “having sex.” Also known as Betanol

TAA(Test Molecule A)-- I didnt look into this one nearly as much, but its the main active ingredient of Instant Shine. Supposedly, TAA hits harder than shine, but shine has longer results. I’m sure theres more to it than that as Shine also has two other pheromones in it. TAA products are forum favorites for not only their effects on others, but their positive self-effects too. Essentially, it makes everyone in a better mood. Many people say that it even makes colors look brighter, food taste better, etc. Its a great buffer for just about anything serious or sexual, like androstenone based products, and so on. I apologize for not looking into this one more thoroughly, but its one of the only products that I hadnt seriously thought about buying until recently. I’ll probably update this guide once I look into this more, as Instant Shine is starting to get my attention.
There are more mones, experimones, and putatives, but those are usually for more advanced users. This guide should help you grasp the concept of the main ones though.

Great post

Seconded.

Especially the mcg per $ calculations, somehow I never thought about that.

excellent guide. I think it’s deserving of a sticky.

Well there are too many good posts for all of them to get stickies, but I’m glad yall like it! Hopefully I can add to it as I learn more about the lest tested mones.

This is amazingly useful and well written. Thanks a lot!

man, you did a lot of research already. good job!

Great effort BUT as soon as I read it I thought to myself "Where is TAL, TAC and TAH. It’s a little incomplete.

Great Job though.

Especiallysince TAC is the BEST none buffer.:stuck_out_tongue:

There are quite a few things missing as far as molecules, but a very good start. However I would say that something that lists a molecule that Androtics considers harmful and then sending the customer to another company to buy that molecule will never become a sticky. The intentions are good, but the reality of it is that it encourages users to go against the androtics mission statement.

Especially since its at the top of the post and doesn’t give a clear warning about the abused-use of A1 as a purposeful tool to attack men, which I imagine if the post is to be that detailed with research it should probably be mentioned.

Gotta be a bit picky on this

TUTH has 2.5mcgs of total pheromones per spray. The majority is Androstenone, which has steering molecules included in the 2.5mcgs

5mcgs/spray is TUTH double strength.

Oops. I just realized I put that. I read somewhere on the forums that it was 2.5mcg of androstenone and 2.5mcg of something else. I had written that early on and when posting my notes into this thread I forgot to edit that. I’ll go ahead and fix it.

Also, I thought that company was the only other company we were ALLOWED to mention? However, I removed it anyways, as its pointless to include since its mentioned in the other guide I linked to.

The reason A-1 is at the top is because I was trying to keep it organized in an alphabetical order fashion, with alpha androstenol being the only exception to pair it with betanol in the list.

Next, what do you mean to “attack” men? I realize the chance of depression-like symptoms and thats why the risk was listed, and a buffer was recommended…am I missing something? If people use the molecule responsibly and in a correct dose, with a necessary buffer like Shine or EST, whats the problem?

As far as the list being incomplete, I realize that and will add to it in time. I simply listed the pheromones that I believed myself to currently have a firm enough grasp of to describe.

Anyways, I appreciate all the comments and I hope you all got some use out of this thread! :slight_smile:

I commend your efforts and I think you did a great job with it, however I feel that if you’re stating that certain molecules are good buffers for -none, it’s based on individual results on people. It could mislead people on what to buffer and what not to do.

As for the spirit of experimentation, I would also like to refer you to

which was also a great writeup (I’m not trying to take anything away from yours).

I also want to say that yes the effort put forward is great and appreciated, but all of these are for ADVANCED users and not just some. They are individual molecules and a user should get a FIRM grip on the instant lines before attempting to use a single molecule. Saying Rone is for alpha status is one thing, but how does the user achieve alpha status? At what level? At what Mcg? Does it need to be mixed? How exactly do you mix it? That’s where the main issue arises actually is that each user is different and each user will experience a different reaction.

A 14 year old boy will not get an ALPHA status vibe off Rone, more likely he will get a "this does not compute OD vibe and then turn away from mones because in effect they did work, but only the wrong way. Essentially what I am saying is that while the list is well intended what Androtics encourages is that each user should go about testing each product with a “clean slate.” What we want as a company is that each person looking to test a molecule goes about it without pre-conceived notions of what it did for another person.

I’ve read about members suggesting that other members break open bottles and start mixing or diluting. Most members here, even the more advanced users, think that breaking open a bottle and adding alcohol to it will dilute it. What you are essentially doing is adding alcohol to the bottle and basically that much alcohol to a molecule is actually damaging the molecule. I wish I was a scientist and could explain this better, but I’m not sure how to. I can tell you that you are diluting but not really the molecule.

With that the effort put into this was brilliant and much appreciated. We have been asked countless times to make a guide or something similar and our reply has always been that it does not serve our community the way it is intended. Snook wrote one, RadMan wrote one and many others, but I can only think of those two right now. Again the effort is appreciated but you are essentially suggesting to our members to base their results on what you have written and encouraging them to mix in bottle, rather than on skin. These are completely opposite of what Androtics stands for, not to mention encouraging members to buy a potentially harmful chemical that makes men depressed.

Its actually on your sig too

Oh, I see how I may have been unclear. Thats actually not my intention at all. I’m not even personally trying to mix my own stuff, with the exception of A-1, and I realize “layering” instead of “mixing” is a much better option since you can ultimately end up with a mixture that you arent satisfied with.

The reasons I listed out each pheromones reported results were so that the instant line could be better analyzed. I completely stand behind the belief that Androtics knows a lot more than we do, so their mixtures are top notch. However, the way my mind works, I like to know what is in each product and what those ingredients are reported to do. I never intended to sway people to go out and start using the experimone line without them having some significant experience under their belt. It was more of a “this guide should help you predict what these products will do,” kind of thing. Does that make sense? I’m sorry if I was unclear.

Of course those statements are based on the individual results of people. After all, thats almost solely what the science of pheromones relies on. I specifically stated that people would have to test the products for themselves to get their own personalized results, but as far as research goes, this is what you’re going to find if you spend about 30 hours clicking through the forum.

All of the products that I listed as good buffers were significantly backed up by many sources, mostly being reliable ones. Do you dispute any of them listed?

Best high -none buffer for me, so far in my testing has been P96 or IH.

But you ask others, they’ll say TAC, IS, TAA, IO. I just want it to be known to newbies that because its listen and that’s what others say, doesn’t neccessarily mean it will be like that for them.

Point being is that the more you test by itself and effects on you, the better your mixes or standalones will be because you just tailored it to you.

Saying that TAA or ANOL is a great buffer for -none is like saying that an Athletic fit suit would be suitable for a plus sized man and skinny jeans on a professional bodybuilder. Some are great, but not for that context.

I completely understand with what you’re saying, and I agree completely. HOWEVER, all the results that people get with pheromones are subject to change based on the individual, and in such a difficult field of study, nothing can be truly 100% consistent. Thats why making a guide for pheromones is so difficult. For this reason I tried to use the information that applied to most people. In no way can any description apply perfectly to all people. Perhaps I should have spelled out things like this more clearly in the guide. Most likely I’ll keep tweaking it based upon yalls suggestions, and then repost the guide in a new thread after its been fine tuned.

WOW

I loved your concise way of delivering info.

Steve , does mixing molecules in a bottle damages its known vibes ?
I have tried to mix many molecules of the instant line last 2 weeks into to go bottles ,
Mix 1 (IH+AMMO+IO+TAF) of semi equal amounts == not really working
Mix 2 (P74+AMMO+TAF+IH)== also not working
Just when I mixed AMMO+TAF+P130 = reached sweetness in seconds :smiley: MR charming.