I have received my Swiss Arabian Jasmine today. The smell is different from Hedione I got before. Altough it is a concentrate oil, there is a distinct smell whereas I did not detect any smell in pure hedione. The smell is natural, but is not like jasmine tea, more sweet, low key floral and a bit etheric. It comes with a roll-on applicator. I tested half an inch on my wrist on this test. No human exposure on that night. Altough it is not a mone, I would compare it to P77 as far as the palate freezing effect is concerned, we are talking direct sniffing from very close. I will gladly test it on its own in a few days. In future posts, I will specify wether hedione or swiss jasmine is being used. Wondering if I bought the right product refered as “swiss jasmine” in this forum. I am open to comments on this.
If its Swiss Arabian, then it probably is - I think they only do the one Jasmine line, although i’m convinced its scent is modified by a proportion of Hedione, making it differ markedly from the pure Jasmine oils I’ve tried - which help make it much more usable on a guy as the pure natural Jasmine can be just a bit too floral for many situations.
And tonight its doing me very nicely again - About a 3cm stripe on my throat, beside two sprays of 5mcg TUTH and the tail-end of two drops A314 Rev23 from work.
Most of the hits have been at the younger end of the scale - and some have been rather wild, shoked and fun from girls in their early 20s at most. Lots of good flirty interaction with two women in their late 20s/early 30s as well - one mixed race, the other local.
Which is what I’m getting used to with the Jasmonates - They seem to help make screamingly overy pheros much more widely usable around a much wider age range compared to the pheros alone.
Yes it’s “arabian”, not “arabic”. I made the correction above. Thanks for the product confirmation!
Swiss Jasmine and a very small amount of Oakmoss oil - WOW, this is a winning combo scent-wise, very earthy/woody with just the right hint of floral and evocative.
And with 2 sprays of IJ, 2 drops A314 and 30mcg P86 Its a real head turner too, with cool/in-control self effects. Its maybe a bit overkill for the start of the evening but let’s see how it matures across the night! 
Swiss jasmine and oakmoss both pure or diluted in alcohol? Which ratios do you recommend for jasmine to oakmoss? Where did you get your oakmoss from? Is it synthetic or natural?
No, just a stripe of jasmine and three small dabs of the oakmoss oil - just below the ears and between the wrists.
The Oakmoss is natural - Pagan/Witchy shops are your friends here. “Anointing” oil, just not sold specifically for skin application.
I’ve got two strengths of oakmoss - one is really only suitable for dilution due to its strength but the “anointing oil” is milder and usable straight from the bottle.
Yes - last night was interesting but not in the way I wanted. There had been a big match-on and the local team won against a much bigger opponent, so town was full of shouty pissed-up arseholes looking to start on anyone - esp me. Not my idea of a particularly good night. Cut-out early and ended-up watching a couple of movies instead.
Being a lazy, sunny sunday, I’m not doing the IJ today - hust 1 spray 2x TUTH, 30mcg P86 and 25mcg P96 - bit the Jasmine is working well - Lots of good solid hits over a nice wide age range - incl the waitress I accedentally goosed (honestly!), whose been back three times to flirt with me. She can’t even be 20! :o
Fragrance-wise its the same amount of Jasmine as yesterday but only two small dabs of Oakmoss but with a tiny dab of ASAQ Amber/Ambergris oil added. Which rounds-out and complements the oakmoss notes very nicely indeed and may help explain the particularly positive response i got from a young asian girl - prob not out of her teens. Its early days but over the last few months I have been seeing a possible correlation between Ambergris and Asian women.
I have a bottle of Perfumer’s Alcohol with Neroli fragrance from AD. How much of this should I take out and how much Hedione should I put in?
I usually find a 20% or 30% of Hedione to be effective for me. If you do decide to mix in PA in a spray bottle make sure to give it time to set up and shake the bottle really good. I have had mixed results mixing it in a bottle with anything so I am thinking of trying the Dab method.
Good Luck and if you do decide to mix it please let us know what kind of results you get.
(Not a rant, not a vent, but sheer surprise, lol). Good grief… so there are three hedione threads, lol. I just asked Dee wether it’s possible to merge the two… But I see now there are three of them. How about keeping only this one alive to prevent us all from turning schizophrenic 
? I would think this is the main one since it has 17 pages. The thread could be renamed to include the word hedione though. What do you folks think?
HA HA yes I notice to Hedione is a hot topic lately. Maybe we can convince Lillian to start one in the womens section he he J/K. I wish there was a general pheromone section where men and women can participate.
Another topic? You made me lol so hard my jaw is sore, lol .
I kinda agree with the idea of a common man/woman ground for exchange, but then again, ladies can come on the men side… and altough I have limited myself for now to the journal section of the ladies, I suppose we can constructively comment discussions on their side as well?
I took-out the ASAQ Jasmine - 2 small swipes along with a tiny drop of pure Ambergris and TUTH/P96/A314 and a fallout to a smart/upmarket club last night. Heady stuff!
Today has been full-on recovery mode!
I hate to ever admit ignorance but I still don’t understand the usage of the term “fallout.”
I only saw it pop up a couple of months ago and still can’t get its meaning from context.
I also mixed hedione with a bit of 3% rose in a roll-on bottle. I’ll ask my GF to try it.
Fallout covers a range of responses certainly but at its most basic it is when someone becomes so emotionally involved with you that they want to look-up to you, be around you/in your shadow constantly.
An example of fallout for me last night:
Fallout one - established and going-out as a couple on a fairly regular basis. Arranged to go out with her on Saturday (tonight) but she had come and found me on Thursday and was texting looking to set-up something for Friday night as well.
Fallout two - developing/new. Very tactile and wanting me to go out with her on Friday night.
Me - Fuckit, its snowing, I’m tired and I want to put my feet-up with a dram, a couple of beers and a movie after a busy week.
Events of today have meant I have to change my plans for tonight, so I’ll have to cancel with fallout one - But I’m pretty certain if I drop a line to fallout two for something later-on, she will drop everything to spend time with me tonight and I will be looking to get physically closer.
Fallout two is on!
Took her all of what, about three seconds to say yes to me.
Just waiting for her to finish work.
Wearing - 2 drops Royale, total of 40mcg of new fallout steering, two sprays 5mcg TUTH and some ASAQ Jasmine/Ambergris.
That went very well indeed - Went for a couple of drinks, then a coffee/bite to eat at the local casino, where because of the strength of her responses, I added-in 20mcg P103. Which got her mostly clambering all over me!
Then of course our routes home took me close by her’s where I just had to pop-in for a while. Got-home just in time to hear the 5am news.
I’m not planning to see her again till I’m mobile/fit again after the surgery but till then, she certainly gave me something to remember her by - Dammn those natural readheads - I just have this fatal fascination! :o
And come this afternoon - Fallout one was ringing my phone-off the table. Waiting for her now, same mix, except 3 drops Royale, no P103 and a little Swiss Jammine/musk for scent, when of course I should be doing some last minute tidying/cleaning-up. Maybe she will come and help me? :o
Now that I think about it… Once I added Hedione to my TUTH/TAC mix I was able to produce what seemed to be a ‘fallout’ because women seemed quite impressed and happy to be around me and almost would not leave or get me to leave unless I forced the issue.
Is this a sign of fallout?
Also, these effects only seemed to happen while in their presence not any other time (i.e. No excessive phone calls or wanting to meet up again soon) which was the weird part to me..
If its not causing lingering/carrying over effects with their emotions, then its not fallout.
That sounds more like the sort of rapid-onset social/emotional engagement you can get with the likes of MX297 - great at the time but you are back to square-one every time you see them. Which is no bad thing in itself.
So I’m not the only one being fond of redheads ! Lol.