Also regarding your PM reply, you mentioned being surprised that this isn’t taught by some PUA’s I may have studied.
In a way it is, but not exactly the same thing. What you mention is innocent words that can evoke a physical response because of sexual associations.
Ross Jeffries teaches “Speed Seduction” which is more a matter of using NLP language tricks and carefully planned wording to slip sexually oriented commands under the radar.
Example you might be talking about a trip to an amusement park and mention the log ride. “I love trips to Disneyland during the summer, especially the log ride because you always get wet. For me it’s the best ride in the park.”
Now, by carefully planning where you place stresses and pauses you emphasize.
“I love trips to Disneyland during the summer, especially the log ride because you always get wet. For me, it’s the best ride in the park.”
This is a form of subconscious command in a way and while it’s tough to do without being too obvious and getting called out for sounding cheesy…and frankly sleazy…even if it works it almost feels like you’re trying to hypnotize the woman into having sex with you. Which feels a little duplicitous to be honest.
Now, maybe it’s hypocritical, but I have no qualms about throwing “buzz words” into a conversation to stimulate blood flow, but planting a whole idea into somebodies head feels a little sleazy so I never got too into Ross’s stuff.
As I mentioned while I am familiar with PUA material I haven’t delved that deeply into it which is why I was surprised.
If you look at the examples I used it is the same thing really just more subtle and less sleazy. Like I said I learned some of this from NLP. Placing the word and pauses play a big part. I can say moist all day and it wont effect anyone until I say “I feel moist”.
I dont think your hypocritical at all, I think your mindful and admirable. I was going to say nice but I didnt want to insult you LOL.
However, Buzz words do the same thing though. They plant a subliminal thought. I will edit and red the section in some of my examples to point out that I am describing much the same thing Ross is. Planting a thought about sex and that thought increase blood flow to certain areas of the body.
I really dont think its sleazy or underhanded in any way. Of course you can go overboard and turn it into something sleazy and perhaps that is what Ross Jeffries has done in his teachings but it doesn’t have to be that way to work. I think with all self development whether PUA or any other you need to adapt to you and what your comfortable with.
Think of it like pheromones because you do the same thing when you use them.
You communicate and that communication triggers an emotion in the subconscious which evokes a response.
Words and phrases do the same thing. You communicate words which trigger a subconscious emotion and evoke a response.
In both cases free will is not taken away. The person hearing or smelling your signal still has the ability to make a decision. You have just influenced it. Free will is still in tact. If the person is not interested in you sexually at all no buzzword or phrase will change that.
Now some may argue that its manipulating which we have discussed before. I dont see it that way. To manipulate is to push, lie or trick someone into doing something they dont want to do or that you know will only benefit you and not them.
To influence is to lead someone in a direction. NLP is not a trick its learning to use language to evoke a different thought and response.
We influence people every day of our lives. Every time we interact we influence Every action has a equal and opposite reaction.
Its just a tool like any other we use to create attraction. Its your intention with using the tool. If your a sleazy user who just wants to get laid without care or thought to those you partner with then its you who is sleazy, not the tool. (not you personally, I know your not sleazy) Its your intention that makes it sleazy or not. The words are innocent even in your example.
Hypnotic words and suggestion are the same as well. You cant plant a command though. People wont do anything they dont want to do while hypnotized or otherwise. Those shows you see where people quack like a duck are just shows. It doesn’t work that way. The word command makes it seem like someone has to follow it. No they still have free will.
Now oddly its not the “always get wet for me” that invoked a response in me. Until you bold-ed it out that didnt even raise my pulse rate. “Log ride” and “best ride” did it though LOL
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