rufioclark's journal (a noob starting somewhere)

Hey Everyone!

This is going to be lengthy post because it covers a lot to start. I’ve been a long time reader in the forum and decided I’ve started using some products regularly enough that I would start reporting some things for my own purposes and to hopefully help some others out. A little background, I am 26, white, not particularly tall or built or anything, just a pretty average white boy.

I used some AD products about two years ago, without much method, and a little success and then I recently moved to a new city across the country and decided I’d like to try them again to hopefully help give me a little edge and help in meeting new people and forming some new relationships.

I recently ordered mx297, ammo, tuth, and ij. It ended up being a pretty expensive order and I want to thank AD for the expedited shipping they provided on this particular order :slight_smile: Great customer service. Thank you!

I’ve been using mx297 when going out regularly with and without ammo. I’ve been talking to and meeting a lot of girls on tinder and a couple on match and going out with different things on experimenting on different dates.

Last weekend- Met Colombian girl (24) out at a bar with her friends and wore 2 sprays mx297 and 2 sprays ammo. Had a great time and escalated with some kino and was getting it in return as well. Definitely felt some chemistry. Met her the other night again after a family gathering to which I wore 2 sprays of mx297. She invited me over to her place to have some wine and a watch a movie and this time she was less responsive to my touch and was a little more cold towards me, not what I was expecting at all… the invite sounded pretty forward. Maybe the lack of ammo, or just a different less stimulating environment. Wish I had a togo of ammo or tuth with me. Oh well.

Friday night. Met 22 year old girl out for some drinks and a movie. Wore two sprays mx297 with 2 sprays ammo, got a big compliment from her when we met and hugged about how good I smelled :slight_smile: We had drinks some fun conversation and she thought I was pretty funny and we went and saw a comedy. Got snuggly in the movie and on the way out to go get another drink or two I sprayed 1 spray tuth in the bathroom. Went for 1 more drink and ended up kiss closing in the car.

Saturday night. Met up with an Indian girl 30 for some drinks and a bite. Wore two sprays mx297 with two sprays ammo. Had an amazing time and great laughs. I was having such a great time and conversation I wasn’t even thinking about trying to escalate with some kino or anything. I felt like I was funnier and wittier than I usually am and that she was exceptionally responsive to my jokes and quips.

Tonight- meeting up with another girl 21 for some happy hour drinks. Thinking about wearing some mx297 with a spray of jerk. Will report back whatever I decide and how it goes.

If someone has some suggestions about how to use jerk effectively and if I want to try it, I’m all ears! Or even a link to a good thread, I’m having a hard time finding much useful on it in the forum. I’ve got a few hours yet before I go so do share!:confused:

So far I’ve noticed I’m more social and quicker to jokes when wearing mx297 and those around me or more responsive to me and what I say, even when just wearing it out say shopping. Ammo definitely seems to make with whole experience a little more flirty and intimate, not like I’m just joking around with my buddies.

Interesting, I’ve yet to receive my first order but everything i’ve read about mx297 on this forum seems to suggest that it doesn’t mix well with other mones except TUTH.

Seems like you’re doing some great research though. Will subscribe.

Thanks for the sub, I don’t think ammo and 297 are a bad or wasteful mix from what I’ve read, maybe not the most ideal, but I’m trying to work with what I got. I’m leery of going on a first date with tuth on.

Check out this link and the link on page 8? Maybe that mobocaster posted on mx297 MX 297 - Dropping Knowledge

Thanks, that’s really interesting. I’m anxious to try out those combos when my mones arrive. Good luck experimenting!

Went out last night on a first date with a beautiful hispanic/indian (30) girl. Wore my usual mix lately of 2 mx297 and 2 ammo. Went super well I thought. When wearing this mix I feel like good quality fun conversation flows super easily between two people. I got some great kino in return from her when we moved from sitting at a table across from each other to a sort of lounge area next to each other. I thought this date was definitely going to end in a kiss but when I walked her to her car it was like the brightest ass light in the parking lot right over us and a bunch of weirdos sitting on the patio there like 10 feet away lol oh well. This mix is super social and confident and fun it feels like but it feels difficult to escalate things at least for me personally. I fully admit i could be doing things wrong or missing signs but this is just my personal observation. Will be switching out or augmenting the ammo with/for some tuth or ij in the near future.

Congrats man! I’ve only really briefly tested MX297 as my shipment only arrived a couple of days ago. Wore it to the supermarket - girl at the checkout was flustered, big line but she chatted to me about my choice of pudding for ages. I also repeatedly asked for her not to bag the stuff and she kept forgetting. Was fun to see the effect.

Also if you want the date to end in a kiss I find it useful to ask the girl at some point when everything is going well, “what would you do if I kissed you?”.
Quite often they’ll tell you that they’d like it, if they respond with a strange look, elaborate and make it comical, “would you scream, call me an ass, or would you kiss back?”.

Helps me out when I don’t know.

Thank you! I have never tried that. I have read the neil strauss thing about asking “would you like if I kissed you right now?” Very similar but never had the nerve to try it. I will have to quit being a puss and just try it.

Last night I went out on a whim with a tiny super cute 21 yo white girl. Same mix. 2 ammo with 2 mx297. Things got very touchy at the bar and later she texted me saying she wished she was in my bed with me! She already asked me to hang out with her again tomorrow evening, so I’d say that was a success. She will get some tuth next time and we’ll see how it goes!

Hey everybody! Have a little extra time this holiday so I figured I would catch up on some field reports I’ve been meaning to write. First off, the 21 YO white girl from the previous post. She ended up coming over to watch a movie a couple days later and was very clear that there would be no sex. Well, I decided to wear one spray mx297 and 2 sprays tuth and see where that took things. It was a fun evening and led to exactly what she said it wouldn’t. But then again I’ve noticed that when people specify unprovoked and out of the blue something they’re not going to do, they usually probably are going to do it- Haha.

Fast forward to last friday. My cousin who is a good friend just comes back to town after being gone a month and asks me to meet him out. He had been on a casual date and they were still out in a busy area so I met up. Wore 2 sprays mx297 and 2 sprays ammo. I have never experienced quite a reaction in my life like I did when walking into this place. It was a nice open format upper scale kind of lounge/ bar. Well lit (for a bar), low volume music and people talking. I swear as I was walking in everyone that was standing room or in the first set of table and bar around the entrance inside stopped talking to each other and stared at me as if I were literally a celebrity or something. I wasn’t wearing anything unlike what anyone there was or doing anything unusual, all eyes were fixed on me. I was weirded out a little and just looked for my cousin and found him and had a nice evening just hanging out talking with him and his date.

The next night. Cousin invited me to come to a Christmas party that a friend he used to go to school with was having. He apparently probably wouldn’t know most of the people there and it could be lame or really fun, or whatever you make it, who knows. We go, I wore the same mix 2- mx297 2- ammo. The numbers were in our favor. Most of the guys who were there were with a significant other and all the girls that weren’t the significant other seemed single. I’m talking to everyone as with this mix it’s super easy for me to be a social butterfly and men and women are very receptive. There is one girl of the group of single girls who is the tallest, best looking, alpha of the group I guess. I’m talking to all the girls trying to feel things out because I’m still not 100% sure who is and isn’t single and just trying to feel things but especially talking to alpha girl as she is having my brand of humor, even though I am figuring she is the one who seems like she might not be single and out of my league anyway (taller than me and older). Long story short after continuing to talk and joke around for the next couple hours we caught some alone time and ended up making out and then I suggested she should just come home with me instead of crashing there with everyone else and she was down and did.

I’m really beginning to believe in the whole game theory of women are attracted to the man with the highest social value. And a mix like 297 with some ammo that makes you and everyone around you open up, talk, and laugh while having a little bit of enone kick from the ammo for ladies does really well.