OK, I realize this may be one of the oft repeated queries here
But, I’m twiddling my fingers waiting for my first shipment, so thought I might as well get started on the forum.
Anyways, I’m going to meet this friend of mine mid-November. I’ve actually been outta the country, and didn’t keep touch, but a couple weeks back, she emails me out of the blue.
And, then we catch up on the phone and she is pretty stoked about my adventures in Europe (so, I would say I have some DHV here to work with)
She invited me over to her place to stay for a weekend because she is feeling pretty lonely (one more plus for me in regards to opportunity )
I tease her and say ok fiiiine, I’ll drop in at her place while on my way to another town.
So, this is the situ. I’d like to take this opportunity to leverage some sex, and also test out some mones. Actually, I had plans to make my moves even without moves and then ( coincidentally ??? ), discovered this site.
So, help me out bros.
Essential info:
My ethnicity: Indian
Hers: Indian
Location: Jersey City in November - so cold as fuck probably.
Ideally, I’d want her to open the sexual door, and I’ll lead from there. Ya, I’m lazy
Yeah not gonna happen. Unless you can demonstrate value on par with a major celebrity like a movie star, rock star or pro athlete women rarely if ever initiate. They expect you to show that you have the balls to go for what you want, if you can’t pick up on her signals and act on them she will assume you either lack the social intelligence to recognize signals, which will turn her off…that you are not interested at all, which will turn her off…or that you are interested but lack the boldness and male aggression to go after what you want especially if what you want is her..which will turn her off.
So basically the right mix of mones might go a long way to ensuring that she’s receptive, but they won’t do the job for you.
As for choosing the right mix…we need to know your ethnicity (given), ages, and personality types including moral upbringing ie is this a conservative girl that would normally require a couple of weeks of dating exclusively before having sex or has she hooked up and had a couple of one night stands before?
Just curious, is this suppose to be an universal idea women in general have or just the American/Western idea?
As for the poster, I would put on socials for the day or if you are going to arrive at night time, I would social up anyways. Bad at initial conversations? Then I would spritz on some IO. I would focus on IH and IS mostly with a hint of Ammo. When it gets later in the evening, I would put on some more sexual products like TuTH or Ammo.
Our ages are 24-25. We’ve a kind of weird relationship. I don’t really hangout much with her, but when we do, we both feel really great. She also verbalized it saying, she loves hanging out with me.
Most of the time, we met in groups, and there is almost always a lot of sexual innuendo from her (like she cracks these jokes…). I’d put her in the category of needing at least a couple weeks rather than a ONS, my culture being what it is.
I figure that the time she has known me for (2 yrs), can substitute as 2 weeks dating
Now, as for my personality, I always make people laugh, I’m a happy, positive person and am generally in an awesome place in my life. I may already be producing some IS on my own
My alpha qualities are largely dormant. I have taken charge in a school/work setting and love leading, but in social settings, I just like to give happiness to people and don’t really care to be the Alpha Dog.
My experience would say that while there are always exceptions to the rule, it IS pretty much a rule. Seems that Black and Hispanic women tend to like high none signals more than most and logically would respond the best to behavior that’s congruent with that ie very forward and assertive. Likewise asian and eastern women tend to come from very conservative and patriarchal cultures and thus are more inclined to keep their sexual sides under wraps, instead waiting for the man to initiate.
Caucasian women tend to follow suit but of all the groups are the most likely to be forward and take initiative. Even then it’s rare and requires a good level of value demonstration to get them to that point.
With Radman the greats, advice and whs06c advice you have a working plan that is easily doable. You got the tools my friend. Set forth and make it happen. Its as easy as you make it
The guys are pretty much spot on. If indian girls like you, typically you’re already in, the advice about the socials and the comfort is spot on, based on my one experience with a desi girl. However, I strongly believe too that if she’s more americanized, traditional comfort and social mones would friend zone you easier as well. You have to get the right amount based on how she is.
I’ve also noticed there were differences on how north indian and south indian women view sexual relations.
If she’s more modern and less traditional, then go with even sexual/social. If she’s more traditional, then go with more socials.
You’re good with some AMMO and IS honestly. That does work well.
Mix I used then, from what I remember was AMMO
That’s the great thing about this city, there are so many things you can learn from other cultures that its interesting, and people aren’t just labeled by their ethnicity, you really get to know the culture and have a better understanding of others this way.
European women, due to numerous social ramifications differing from the U.S., are much more sexually confident and aggressive. They are statistically more likely to have multiple partners, and are typically more likely to initiate sex/ approach men they are interested in/etc. Sex and openness about sex are much less taboo across the pond. I read a study a few weeks back that suggested that while European and American women have about the same amount of sexual partners, the American girls were far more likely to lie about or underestimate their number of partners than the European women.
Eastern women are far more conservative, due (I believe this was already stated) to a much more collective culture and emphasis on feminine modesty and purity/honor/whatever. This is much more prevalent in, say, Chinese or Korean culture, as opposed to a relatively more westernized, liberal culture in Japan.
American women? They are just as sexual and perhaps even more “slutty” (though I don’t feel this is semantically an appropriate word) than European girls, but still carry a heavy social stigma, and are thus far, far, far less likely to approach, initiate sex, talk about sex,etc. This is not to say they are more difficult to lay per se; in fact, I would wager a PUA could get an American girl in the sack by the time he took a European or Asian girl to coffee . Rather, they are just more stigmatized and thus require the male to initiate the majority, if not all, of the approach and escalation. I would wager this is due to a culture where constant hypersexualization in the media and society intermingle with a strong Judeo-Christian culture simultaneously. But I’m not an anthropologist .
Basically, European women are wild, Easterners more maidenly, and Americans the former pretending to be the latter .
That is why one has to assume that ALL GIRLS are attracted to him
Because if the girl isn;t interested, it would backfire either way; on the other hand, if the girl is interested, you got it! Either way, win-win
Good advice, once again! Two thumbs up
I’ve been to Europe, and it is very different from America, for sure. And you know what, I’d say Americans are more wild. Even I was under the same impression about Europeans before I got there.
They are actually more conservative than you’d think. The club culture in Europe is that you come in with a group of friends, and leave with the same group of friends. There are these bunches of people all over the place.
Not saying, that you won’t find wild gals out there. Sure you do. With all the ERASMUS students hangin about, I’ve met quite a few wild ones. But that I’d attribute to being in a foreign country (just like how an American girl would let go, or heck even Indian).
I’ve had girls come grind me in US, hardly happens in Europe. I was in Lisbon specifically, but visited Madrid, Budapest, Amsterdam (didn’t hit any clubs, I was too busy getting baked :o), Riga.
Now, Riga is another case, LOL. It is one big tourist trap if ever filled with Brits, Italians and Russians. The tourist industry, and Ryan Air and Easyjet have totally fucked up the city. You don’t find anything Latvian in that place. Its all casinos and hyena clubs. The locals actually have some clubs that only locals are allowed into.
All in all, I’d say American and European women are just about the same, and of course quite different from the Eastern women.
I haven’t been to sweden, and just spent only 5 hours on a layover in Copenhagen, but a Portuguese super-hottie I met at the airport told me that Danish people were cold.
This is consistent with my theory that as you got towards the north, the people get colder, as does the weather.
Respect.
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