So many tests So little time - My journal

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
341

Hey, reps for the big combo! Do you think that your “friend” was maybe trying to “steal your phero-signature” also (consciously if he knew what you applied, or unconsciously if he didn’t)?

40 mcgs Androstadienone - soon I am going to be trying out my Androstadienone in such large doses (as opposed to Instant Female Magic which I have seen very good results from at 6 sprays from a to-go) I am a bit taken aback to find out that many posters say it smells like cat pee or something - not only am I anosmic for Androstadienone, but also most other pheros, it seems, although I can smell -none. Er, I shall cover it well, and I must say, I haven’t had any negative comments so far with any pheros, it’s just weird to think that to some I may be smelling really quite peculiar.

Sounds like this guy, whether conscious of the pheros or not, was just letting you do the work of “raising the buying temperature” then hoping he could reap the benefits. A really bizarre strategy - but he may have misconstrued the girl’s responsiveness to you as responsiveness in general, and thought that he could get a result.

Or, put another way, a woman who is delivering IOIs - be they to oneself or to another man - is going to appear more attractive than a woman who isn’t, simply because they are giving out all the right signals. A bad/unethical wingman may think “oh, she’s easy” and try to steal the IOIs and woman… just because you have made the whole process look easy.

aha.. you posted your update at the same time I posted this… reading it now…

OK… this reminds me of some parable or fable that I can’t quite remember exactly. Something about some covetous type spoiling it for all so no one gets anything… Well, you’re better off sarging solo, for sure, Mark!

342

Good & interesting reports Mark :slight_smile: I have read all of it & i find that don’t mind if i say this but your “friend” intentions is evil & downright bad. Well i got this type of “friend” before so i understand their behaviour very well. I agreed with you that you aint letting this “friend” to ride in the club with anymore. Good move! Anyway you are better off solo than having this type of “friend” coming along with you.

Btw nice girl you got there in your new avatar :slight_smile: Congrats & reps for your reports :slight_smile:

343

Sure is!

344

And onward to Saturday.

I wake up Saturday morning to a text message from the girl hat didn’t show up at the club last night, apologizing and saying that she got home from work, laid down on her sofa and fell asleep. She calls me a little after that and we talked for awhile, cause she said she was at work and was really bored. She calls me 3 or 4 more times before getting off work, and we had decided to go out to dinner and then to Red River.

So, what pheros to wear? She responded very well to the Friday night mix, but had also responded well to the oil based FPPX2 when I’d worn it around her before. So I decide a mix of alcohol and oil based FPPX2 is just the ticket to try tonight.

Pheros:

Oil Based FPPX2 - 6 drops
Alcohol FPPX2 - 1 spray
Covered with a cologne form the unmentionable place.

We decided to go to a Steak House that I’d never been to, but had really great reviews, and met at the restaurant.

My “friend” called in the afternoon to see if I was going to the club later, and I told him that he was on his own and that I was going to dinner then the club with the girl from Thursday. I think maybe he realized that he’d been caught in his little game, because he never showed at the club, but did call my cell phone at around 1:30 in the morning, to which I ignored the call.

The food really was good, but the service was just a bit lacking. Anyway, we ate our food and then just sat in the restaurant talking for a couple of hours. She asked if my “friend” was going to be at the club, and I replied that i didn’t know but figured he probably would. She told me that she really didn’t like him and if he showed up she wouldn’t even acknowledge him, then went on to say that she thinks he’s jealous because I always have pretty women around me, and he can’t get them on his own.

We talked and talked. She told me all about herself, and I told her a bit about me. Then finally around 9:45 her friend called, who was going to meet us at the club and we decided to head over to Red River.

My “friend” never showed up, which was just fine with the three of us. The club was really packed that night, but the girls ended up hanging out with me for most of the night, then they left around 12:00 because she had to work again in the morning.

While they were there, several girls came over and gave me hugs and said hello, and a girl that I hadn’t seen in months came over and hung out with us for awhile, and I introduced her to the girl I was with and her friend.

A little later the girl from Friday night showed up again, and made a point of standing right next to me. There were several girls that walked by throughout the night and just kind of stared at me as they passed by.

This was all great, because it was social proofing at it’s best. Anyway, when my dinner date and her friend took off she gave me a hug and a kiss goodbye and said she’d call me tomorrow.

After they left there were 2 more girls that came over and stood in front of me when the band came back on. One of the girls was really hot and within a few minutes 2 Guys came over and joined them. I got the impression that they were their boyfriends but by the end of the set I wasn’t quite sure anymore, because the guys walked off and the girl that was really hot ended up finding a spot between my legs. I didn’t really think much of it at first, but then she looked back at me, smiled and rested her arms on my thighs, and over the next 10 minutes or so she leaned back into me several times. Finally she cleared a spot on the subwoofer spot right next to me and tried to jump up, but couldn’t quite make it. I got down and helped her sit up on the subwoofer box, then took my place back. She was being really friendly and flirty, then the guy that I thought was with her came back and put his arm around, as if to stake his claim.

I really didn’t know what to think at that point, so I decided I wasn’t even going to try to figure it out. He pulled her down and dragged her away, but I noticed her looking back at me as they walked off.

There was another couple that had been sitting several feet down from me, and had gone off to dance a couple of times. I noticed the girl glance over and smile at me several times, but thought nothing off it because she was clearly with someone. Twice when they came back from the dance floor other people had taken their spot and they were having trouble finding where they left their drinks. I pointed their drinks out for them, and on doing so the second time the girl comes over to me and says thank you and asks my name. I told her and she told me hers, then the guy came over and she introduced him as her friend and he takes her by the hand and starts pulling her away. She leans up and kisses me on the cheek and tells me I’m too sweet, and they walk off. She tried to come back over by me a couple of times, but each time she did the guy she was with? would pull her away.

Anyway, I had some great hits that night with an FPPX2 Alcohol/oil mix, but I think that at least with my target girl, and the one that I wanted reactions from the most, I had much better results from the Thursday night mix. With the other girls, the FPPX2 mix seemed to have a strong sexual, but also very playful and flirty effect.

The Thursday night mix seemed to have a solid sexual edge and brought out almost a dominance effect in that the women were willing to act on and make the first move.

I’m glad I write down any new mix I try, cause I’ll certainly be playing with both mixes again.

345

Nope, I think my “friend” was trying to steal the girls!

That’s pretty much it dead on. He sees girls that he likes, but will not make an effort to meet or talk to them. He claims he’s shy, but I think it’s more like a fear of rejection, because he has no problem talking to and hitting on girls that I talk to. When he sees someone he likes, I usually go over and say something funny to get her attention, then bring her back over and introduce them and then let him do his thing. I’ve got no problem in doing that, but hitting on girls that I’m hitting on just ain’t cool.

I couldn’t agree more. BTW, this weekends target girl has already called me twice today. Seems kind of strange that a girl that just Thursday night was supposedly repulsed by my touch, kept hitting on my friend and said I was too old for her would make that kind of effort. :roll_eyes: I guess I have one more “friend” to write off!

346

Thanks PhatSounds. By the way, the new avatar girl is not my weekend target, she was one of the other girls from Saturday night. Gotta keep your options open, right? :wink:

347

Mark,

with friends like that who needs enemies?

348

Yep, I agree. He ain’t the first to pull that kinda crap though, and I’m sure he won’t be the last.

349

Your welcome Mark :slight_smile: So i see that’s the girl from your Saturday night, yes i agreed with what you say about keeping your options open buddy, if there is a chance with that girl, go for it :wink:

350

Sorry I’m so late to the party, but I’ve been ropin’ and ridin’ for the last several days and just got home.

Aaah, cowboy…I’ve noticed this seems to be a recurring theme…lol. :smiley: Very popular “spot” you’ve got there…:stuck_out_tongue:

Ah, another recurring theme…

And this…you do something sweet/nice and they/she starts smoochin’ on ya…this happens all the time, too…well it does!

Ahem…see…think harder…lol. A lot of these girls are with someone else…for the moment…and then there’s you…:wink: Maybe it’s a boyfriend, maybe it’s just a date.

While I don’t think it’s a very classy move to hit on someone else while on a date, it happens all the time…especially to you, my dear. I don’t know what to say about these girls…makes ya think :roll_eyes:…you must be irresistible to them, for them to do that. Or maybe they just have no self control. It also makes me think they’d behave the same way when they see anybody they deem hotter/more attractive then their present companion. I dunno…like I said, makes ya think.

And as far as your “friend” goes…guess it’s kinda ex-friend by now…anyways, here you are…not only kind enough, but capable of meeting and opening girls *he wants to meet for him. As ntk said, you’re not only “doing the work” of raising the temperature…you’re actually getting the girl! Yeah, he can open his mouth when she’s handed to him…and then he hits on the girls you’re interested in…that’s bullsht.

Can’t wait to see what he’s gonna do now. He can’t seem to snag 'em on his own, he’ll have to get a new “hook”.

What the H is wrong with people. You took care of him like a brother…some people really know how to stick it to ya…:roll_eyes:…shame on him.

Anyways, the mysterious FPPX2 sounds like a winner. I’m looking forward to hearing more. Your reports are always a great read.

Reps, cowboy. :wink:

Bella

351

I have a lot of girls that I know who will stand between my legs like that, but not so much girls that I haven’t yet met, and she did throw me a bit of a surprise. You’ve seen pics of where I sit in the club though, and it’s pretty common for either a guy to be sitting on the subwoofer with a girl standing between his legs, or vice versa.

Girls usually don’t start the kissing that quickly, well wait a minute, I do have another report from last Saturday to post in which I did meet and make out with a girl that quickly, but her friend had been hitting on me for a half hour previous to that.

But, while the one you’re talking about was showing IOI’s and did kiss my cheek, she didn’t bail on the guy she was with, didn’t try to, I don’t think she would have, and if she did I would have thought it to be a pretty shitty thing to do and would have been the first to tell her so.

Or maybe it’s a rare night out for them, and it’s just having a little careless fun and wanting to feel attractive to someone other than their LTR.

Well, he hasn’t called me in 2 weeks, since the last time he called and I told him that he was on his own that night because I was going to dinner then the club with the girl. And if he does happen to call again, I’ll have to be sure to let him know that she’s called me every day since the night he told me she was all over him he couldn’t get her to leave him alone, and that I’ve been out with her like 4 times in the last 2 weeks.

I guess he thought I’d totally blow her off and take him at his word, like I did with Gina. But, that just wasn’t gonna happen with her.

He’d also tried to tell me that several other girls that I’d met on previous nights were hookers. Funny thing is that they were girls that he couldn’t move on and didn’t pay any attention to him. And, I’d always thought hookers discussed money at some point and relatively quickly at that, and if the guy didn’t bite they’d go find someone else. I also wouldn’t think that they’d generally give out their phone numbers to guys that weren’t paying customers. Either hookers in clubs have changed and are just as happy to meet a decent guy and enjoy the evening as they would be making money, or he was just jealous and had to come up with a reason for not being able to worm his way in.

Some people, actually a lot of people are on the narcissistic side and if you give them an inch they’ll take a mile. And, some people are nice enough to let them and get taken advantage of. I’m a nice guy and do get taken advantage of for it, but nowadays I can spot it pretty damn quickly and I bail out.

My target girl is the same way. She has a friend that she’s been helping out and babysitting for who lives over an hour away. The friend asked her to babysit overnight, which she did. She also drove out to get the kid, then brought him back the next day.

Then the friend started expecting her to come get the kid every day in the morning and bring him back in the evening, and she’s been doing it. I told her that she’s the one helping her friend out and the friend should bring the kid to her and pick him up, but she says that her friend told her she couldn’t afford the gas. So I told her that she should tell her friend that she’s not going to make that trip every day and will just keep the kid for a few nights at a time then. She said she tried that too, but her friend wants the kid back every night.

So, she’s probably spending $15.00 in gas and 2 to 3 hours of her time every day to help out this friend, who won’t lift a finger, go out of her way or even help out with gas money, and at least in my opinion, doesn’t appreciate her for it.

We need a few less people in the world like that.

352

Face it, cowboy…you’re a sweetie and girls like you. :slight_smile: :wink:

Your girlfriend is a nice person who, as you know, is allowing herself to be taken advantage of because she feels sorry for this other woman. She’s made considerable time and effort to help her out. She’ll go as far as she can with the present arrangement and then push will come to shove as it’s already become a burden. She’ll eventually have to put her foot down or cut out completely. She made a lovely selfless gesture and this woman responded by swallowing her whole. Without compromise here…I, like you, would already be out.

And as far as your former friend goes…

That about covers it.

353

OK, this isn’t a report so much, but a favor to ask of those that are religious.

I’ve been out with my target girl a number of times now, and while nothing has really happened and I’m not even really sure that I want anything to, cause she is a really good hearted person and I’m not sure I’m willing to chance losing what we do have over what might become. I think maybe I’m a bit gun shy with this one too, as even though I know my ex friend told me a bunch of shit, in the back of my mind I guess I’m thinking that maybe there’s at least a shred of truth behind some of what he said.

Anyway, her name is Crystal, she’s 27 years old and she was diagnosed 2 1/2 weeks ago with Breast Cancer. She also had cancer of the Uterus when she was 19 years old and had a full Hysterectomy. The cancer is benign at this point and she was supposed to have 2 tumors removed on Tuesday, but came down with the flu last Saturday so they put the surgery off for a week.

So for anybody that believes in God, I’m going to ask that you that you’ll keep her in your prayers and ask God to watch over her.

354

Oh, I’m sorry to hear that, cowboy. I’ll definitely say a prayer for Crystal. :wink:

I think you’re right to hold off on the romance in that case. She has a lot to handle and the timing is bad. It would be, of course, a different story if you were already romantically involved.

And what the worm said to you about her, I may have doubts too, but consider the source and his motivation behind the words. Unfortunately when things like that are said, no matter what you’d like to think, you can’t just erase those words from your mind. If you really like her see how things go and how you feel after she recovers.

I wish her the best of luck.

355

So, I guess I should post about last weekends exploits now.

Thursday and Saturday nights at Red River. Crystal stayed home both nights because she wasn’t up for going out.

I decided to try mixing the FPPX2 oils and alcohol versions and wore 2 drops of the oil and 2 sprays of the alcohol both nights.

Thursday night I got to the club and it was packed. It seemed like everybody I knew came out that night, including the girls from last week that I hadn’t seen in months. She showed up with her 2 sisters, one of which I’d made out with many months before. She ended up making out with me again and then started giggling. I asked what was so funny and she said “I’m married now” WTF.

Anyway, the rest of the night was spent with a bunch of girls that I knew coming over and hanging out with me throughout the night, including a couple of girls that I don’t remember having met walking over and giving me hugs. And there was one girl that passed by me several times staring at me with a really inviting smile each time she walked by.

Otherwise, the night was pretty much unspectacular and not a great deal to report on

Saturday night:

The club was crowded again, but it was a different crowd and I didn’t know a lot of people. The girl from last Thursday and the week before that had hung out with me and that my ef friend had hit on was there again, and ended up hanging out with me most of the night, till she left at about 1:00. This is a girl that I’m not into but does like me, or at least used to, so as not to hurt her feelings I was being a good boy.

Anyway, there were a couple of girls that came over and sat on the other side of me when the band came on, and within about 2 minutes the girl next to me started giving me strong IOI’s. She asked me if the girl on my other side was my girlfriend, and I said no and that she was just a friend. She was actually pretty cute and after that she started rocking up against me to the music, singing to me, smiling, etc. One of her friends looked my way and smiled too, but seemed to feel that her friend was making a play and wasn’t going to interfere. After the band finished their set the girl next to me put her arm around my shoulder, pulled me to her in a sideways kind of hug and they walked off. She walked by a time or 2 and gave me a big smile each time she passed, but it didn’t go beyond that.

There were 2 girls sitting on the other side of the subwoofer box behind me. One of them was a really big girl and not very attractive, the other one was kind of cute. The big girl was putting out all kinds of IOI’s: she kept leaning back inot me, poking me in the side and at one point she leaned back toward me and started singing along to a song. I really wasn’t at all interested in her, so at one point when she poked me in the side I reached over and poked her friend and said that everytime her friend poked me I was going to poke her, and that she could then poke her friend back. She seemed to like the attention from me and this went back and forth several times.

After the girl that I knew left at around 1:00, the girl that I’d been poking walked around to my side of the subwoofer and asked my name. I told her and within another minute or so we were liplocking. We talked for awhile and she kept leaning in and kissing me the whole time we were talking. She was there with 2 of her friends, was the designated driver and had never been to the club before, had just gotten out of a LTR several weeks ago and lived kind of a far away. Anyway, I ended with her phone number and at the end of the night she said she was going to go find her friends. She gave me a kiss then took off. Several minutes later she found her friends and as they were leaving she gave me another kiss as they walked past and told me to call her.

Observations: The PFFX2 oil and alcohol mix is awesome. The combo seems to attract attention and interest pretty immediately, then the added kick from the oil takes over and builds upon it. I’ve worn the mix 2 times so far, and on both nights ended up having girls start making out with me. Gotta wear this one agfain tonight and Saturday! :smiley:

356

Those were my thoughts too. She needs a real friend more than someone looking for romance right now. She has said a couple of things to make me feel that she does want something more with me and she does call me at least once every day, but I want her to know that I’m there for her and will stand by her as her friend and someone who truly cares for her first and foremost.

When she first told me that she had Breast Cancer, she also said that think that she didn’t think she was willing to go through Chemo or Radiation treatment again and that she didn’t have anything to live for anyway. I told her that she has everything to live for and needs to stop thinking like that. The next time we talked she said she was willing to maybe do 6 months worth of Chemo and see how it goes.

So yeah, I agree that as far as romance goes the timing is really bad. But, as for having someone that truly cares about and will be there for her, I don’t think the timing could have been better.

357

Mark, my prayers and best wishes go out to Crystal too. Well, “the alpha male who has her back” - that’s got to be a good vibe to put out. I’m glad to see she took your words to heart and has developed a more positive outlook.

358

Thanks ntk!

359

Hey Mark, you know what I’ve said about ‘he said, she said’ since middle school? Fuck it. Don’t worry about the bullshit your ex-friend said, I worry about the person that’s directly in front of me and what they tell me then and there. Anything else is just hearsay.

Man, and I thought I was dealing with nasty cockblocks. Frat boys have to get older sooner or later, right? That’s the very same behavior I see at frat parties. (Sorry I’m bashing frats so much lately, I know there are a handful of good frat men (not boys) out there.)

The guys who don’t have gfs or girls yet go around talking to all the other girls, and no matter how cute/uncute they might think she is, it doesn’t matter if your intentions are just to talk, they’ll try and cut right in and assert their position by putting an arm around the girl.

Honestly, I find that pretty funny. :smiley: Drunk girls are trying to move around, having a hard enough time, without an ‘arm’ leash tethered around her waist. :stuck_out_tongue: Though, most of the time, it’s more like his arm is a leash on him, and he’s following her around where ever she goes.

I think it’s pretty clear that even if those girls were “taken” they were advertising some availability. And, this is my personal view, but if a girl and a guy are together, there usually isn’t any ambiguity about it.

A girl needs to rep her man right, and a guy needs to rep his woman right. Then there are no confusions. But when a guy is trying to show that it’s “his” woman, then IMO, that’s not really “his” woman at all.

Nice mixes you’ve got going on, even better relationships you’re forming. I hope all goes well for Crystal, a couple friends of mine are having a lot of hardship in their lives due to similar circumstances.

360

Yep, and that especially holds true in nightclubs and around wannabees.

you mean kind of like a lost puppy? Sounds like Beta behavior trying to be an Alpha at it’s best. Just kinda pitiful though, ain’t it? :smiley:

I agree with you here too. I do know woman who are taken, but do enjoy flirting and being made to feel attractive to other men, but make it clear that they are taken and not available.

And yeah, I think that a woman who will show some availability in front of the guy she’s with is either not with him exclusively, or is making it clear and letting him know that she’s not not “his” woman.

A guy who’s secure with himself and in his relationship isn’t going to feel the need to prove togetherness (new word?).

And thanks for the well wishes for Crystal!