TheAttractor's Journal

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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I recently joined this site, and got my $25 gift certificate. So I placed my first order: Instant Shine, Instant Openness, and Ammo. According to what many people said, these were good starter products. When they arrive,and I get a chance to try them out, I’ll post the results.

Yesterday, I decided to do a control study, so to speak; namely, try going out without using any of the pheromone products. I went to a low-key sports bar with my friends (which wasn’t that low-key yesterday, because of the Super Bowl). I tried taking to a few girls, at least the ones who were without boyfriends. Their responses were OK, I guess: friendly, but kind of reserved. I’ll factor in the possibility of the Super Bowl camaraderie making girls in the bar more open to conversations with strangers, especially considering the fact that most of my openers were about Steelers and/or Cardinals. I didn’t get any phone numbers, but my main goal was to get an estimate of how girls respond to my natural pheromone signature (without the products on this site).

When I try out the products and see what happens as a result, I’ll post it all here. More to come.

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Putative Pheromone P131 - Fun, Touchy, Perverted yet Serene
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Just remember to take it steady, test each product on it’s own, for at least a week. Once you know your sweet spot it is so much easier to work out combinations.

Don’t know why I’m saying this, pretty much guarantee you’ll throw it all on at once, we all did!

Right, the book on how long it takes for The Attractor to be converted from skeptic is now open, I’ve got 2 days :wink:

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First time ever using pheros: Weak hits, but I still have hope

I got my first order ever today: it contained Instant Shine, Ammunition, Instant Openness, and Instant Honesty. I decided to try out the ones I was most excited about: IS and Ammo. I put on 2 sprays of Ammo, one behind each ear, and 2 sprays of IS, one on each wrist. After the stuff had a chance to “settle” a little, I decided to go out in public and try it out on the society at large. Here’s what transpired.

Location: ethnic grocery store
Setting: people who are there for a specific purpose
People: general public
Time of day: 8:00pm to 9:00pm
Moon phase: full moon (Why? Read my thread: Moon Phases and Pheromones)

I went to a grocery store that I don’t shop at often. I noticed that men were more polite with me than usual, such as stepping aside to let me pass before I even had a chance to say “excuse me”. One man started mumbing something to himself in Polish when he walked past me. Women, on the other hand, didn’t react much differently than they normally would. Although maybe it’s just me, but they seemed kind of standoffish, such as stepping away when I walked nearby, even if I was just reaching for the same brand of milk they were looking at. When I went to the checkout, the male cashier was being extra helpful, while the female bagger seemed to be averting her eyes from me. I tried not to pay much attention to it, took the bags of groceries, and walked out of the store.

My conclusion? Maybe I OD’ed on Ammo, since I used 2 sprays. The women weren’t openly hostile, but I got a vibe that they were shying away from me. (Note to self: 1 spray next time.) The IS effect on me, on the other hand, was very nice: I felt more upbeat than normal and pleasantly lightheaded. Even in the store, where finding some products is frustrating as hell, I felt very relaxed the whole time. So I don’t know. This phero stuff is still completely new to me, and I’m still learning the ropes, but I’m really hoping that my future experiences will be more positive.

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Location: a singles’ event in a hotel conference room
Setting: friendly, fun-loving crowd that was there to meet new people
People: all ages
Time of day: 9:30pm to 1:30am

It was Valentine’s Day, and I had no plans (that’s why I joined this site not too long ago). My friends were busy with their own plans, not all of them with dates, and I ended up home with nothing to do. So I went online, looking for events or venues where it would be acceptable for a young guy to come to by himself. I found a singles event 15 minutes from my home, and decided to go. I knew there wouldn’t be many people my age, but it was better than sitting in an empty apartment, and at the minimum, I’d get a chance to try out my pheromones.

So I put on the pheromones: one spray of Ammunition on the chest, and two sprays of Instant Openness on the sides of my neck. Then I dressed in some nice club clothes, and left the apartment. When I arrived at the hotel, the parking lot was packed as hell, so I knew there would be many people there. Feeling pumped, I entered the hotel and headed for the conference room. Now, this is where it started to get interesting.

Some minor hits at the bar:
Before entering the room where the event was, I decided to head to the bar to get some liquid courage. There was a long line that just wasn’t moving. People around me seemed more polite than usual, and were more responsive to the small talk I made. One man joked about me buying drinks for him and his wife. I played along with the joke, but I was mildly worried that they were looking for a “third party to join them”. I’m sure the bartenders were working to serve everyone, but the line just wouldn’t move. When one young woman working there walked by, I asked her why the service was so slow. She apologized profusely, and actually gave me and a few other people in line free drinks. (In retrospect, I think I might have yelled at her a little, so I feel kind of bad about that.) But that, along with the joke earlier, indicated that the pheromones were working.

Two Caucasian middle-aged women:
After fueling up at the bar, I was ready and raring to go. I entered the conference room where the singles’ event was taking place. There was a large dance floor in the middle, with some tables around the perimeter. I scanned the room to look for women my age. I didn’t see them, but by this point, I didn’t care very much. I saw two women, who looked about 40, dancing together. I approached one of them (the more attractive one of the two), and asked her to dance. She responded: “well, you’ll have to dance with my friend too”. I agreed, took each of them by the hand, and started to dance. I think I did a good job. Since they were outside the my age group, I thanked them for the dance and moved on.

Miscellaneous hits:
Throughout the event, I danced with a number of people, both my age and older. This is where I knew that the dance classes I’ve been taking were paying off. They seemed to enjoy my company, and even complimented me on my dancing skills. However, I got a vibe that they danced with me just because they liked to dance, rather than out of romantic interest, so in each case, I said “thanks for the dance” and moved on.

Young African-American girl:
I saw her dancing by herself in the middle of the dance floor. She looked in my direction, so I approached her. She was a great dancer, and I followed her moves the best I could. We made some small talk, and it turned out to be an interesting conversation. We even went to the bar at one point (the line was a lot faster by then), and I ended up buying her a drink. Most of the time on the dance floor, it was non-contact dancing, with some hand-holding here or there. When I tried to get closer, she seemed resistant to it. I decided to dance with her longer, and try again later. When I did, same reaction. By then, about 45 minutes passed. So while I was enjoying her company, it again seemed like she wasn’t too interested. Perhaps she was looking for just a dance partner, rather than someone to date. Oh well. I politely excused myself and left.

Young Caucasian girl who gave me her phone number, part 1:
After the previous dance, I took a break to chill out and rest. When I was standing at the edge of the dance floor, I saw her looking at me. Since it’s common knowledge that hesitation leads to masturbation, I went up to her and asked her to dance. The next song playing was “Suavemente”. I asked her if she knew how to dance merengue. It turned out she did. During the dance, she was pressing against me much more than I expected, and complimented me many times.

Young Caucasian girl who gave me her phone number, part 2:
After that, another song came on; this time, it sounded more like swing. Instead of just dancing freestyle, I asked her if she knew swing dance, but she said she didn’t know it. I showed her a few basic moves, and she did pretty well. After the song, she said “thanks for teaching me”, but she had a look of affection like I taught her the meaning of life. Mind you, I approached her no more than ten minutes ago. But when I asked for her phone number, she gave it to me, and seemed very happy doing it. As we were parting company, she gave me a full-body hug for nearly 15 seconds. And yes, I am planning to call her today (Sunday) or tomorrow.

As I walking back to my car with a spring in my step, I caught a few guys in the parking lot giving me jealous looks as they passed me. That only made me smile more. This was one of the best night I’ve had in months, and ironically, it’s something I decided to do at the last minute as a last resort. And most important, my pheromones worked wonderfully! Thanks you, Tisha, Steve, and the rest of the Pherotalk team, for promoting such a great product.

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Subtle pheromone hits at the unemployment office, with IShine and P91

Like it has happened time and time again since 2007, another job fell victim to the recession. So I did what I had to do. Before going to the unemployment office, I decided to test out my new pheromones. Something told me that Ammo Summer wouldn’t be a good pheromone to use in a government institution. So I put on 2 sprays of Instant Shine on my hair, and 1 spray of P91 on my neck. Here are the hits (at least I think they’re hits) I got.

Myself
I felt myself getting kind of giddy at first, mostly from IShine , although the sunny weather might have had something to do with it. Later, when P91 took effect, I noticed myself become very chill (somewhat uncharacteristic for me). The whole time I was at the unemployment office, I was very relaxed, even when I was bored, staring into space, while waiting for my name to be called.

Receptionist
Characteristics: female, Caucasian, late 40’s.
I’m pretty sure being a receptionist at a government office has gotta be pretty stressful. But I noticed her acting more relaxed than I expected. She patiently explained what I need to do to file my claim, even when I came back to her desk to check on when my name will be called.

Case worker
Characteristics: male, Caucasian, early 40’s.
He seemed to have a stronger reaction to my pheromones than the receptionist. He was acting more smiley than most government workers I’ve dealt with, and even complimented me on already knowing the process. (I last dealt with my state’s unemployment office in 2009, and little changed since then.) By comparison, when I heard him talk to the person in front of me, he used a much drier, almost military-like tone of voice.

Concluding thoughts
This was the most pleasant time ever dealing with my state’s employment security office. I was out of there in about 90 minutes, and everyone I talked to was very helpful. While the improving (somewhat) economy had something to do with that, I’m curious if any of my situations were hits. Please comment.

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I was headed to a shopping mall to do some Mothers’ Day shopping. And what better grounds to test out pheromones than a shopping mall. I put on a 2 sprays of Ammo Summer on the sides of the neck, 2 sprays of Instant Shine on the hair, and 1 spray of P91 of the front of the neck. There was only one real hit I noticed. The rest are gray areas.

Salesgirl
Characteristics: female, Caucasian, 25 at most.
I went up to the register to ask for assistance: I had trouble deciding between two things, and needed a woman’s opinion. This salesgirl was just the ticket, despite being much younger than my mother (younger than me, even). I noticed her smiling an awful lot, she talked at a very fast pace, and her eye contact was more fixated than usual. Uncharacteristic for me in the last five years, I became a little bit nervous while talking to her, stumbling through a word here or there (what can I say; she was very cute). But what was interesting is that she started to act equally skittish, almost as if she was mirroring me.

I was about to dismiss it as just her personality or tiredness from a long day at work, I noticed the most blatant hit since my return to PheromoneTalk. When she was explaining something to me, instead of saying “you won’t have to fuss with it as much”, she said “you won’t have to fu_ck with it as much”. Her tone of voice was completely normal while saying that sentence. It didn’t seem like she noticed her Freudian slip, but I sure did. It took me a lot of effort to hold back the laughter. I decided not to embarrass her by pointing it out, so I payed for the merchandise and left.

Miscellaneous
I got into conversation with two Hispanic women in their late 30’s (just my guess: not old-looking, but clearly older than me) while watching a product demonstration. There were smiling at me during conversation, but there were no IOI’s on their part, so it could have been just their personality or culture. There there was a couple who I shared an elevator with, and briefly spoke to during the ride. The girl seemed a little more smiley than the guy, but they were both friendly, and it’s kind of normal for women to smile more anyway, so I doubt this was a hit.

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Overall, I don’t think my date with the woman from a dating site went over so well. But I did see some good hits, especially at the beginning. For a bit of recap, I met the woman on dating site, and scheduled a meeting about a week later. I put on 3 sprays of Ammo Summer, 2 sprays of Instant Shine , and 2 sprays of P91 (5 mcg /spray). Then I added a little bit of Bvlgari Aqva as a cover scent. Then I let it air out, and started driving over. Here are the effects I noticed.

Self
I’m pretty sure it was probably the anti-anxiety effect of Ammo Summer, but I felt so chill and relaxed, it was unbelievable. I’ve come a long way when it comes to feeling nervous before a date, from borderline panic at age 17 (I had a late start, lol), to pleasant anticipation by my mid 20’s. But last night, I felt like I was standing at the back of a boat in the middle of a lake during a sunset. The mild downside is that I ended up driving slower than normal, but I kept it in check the best I could. The self-effects faded by the time I got to the bar.

My date
It started out hard and fast. She must have gotten hit in the nose by my pheromones, because when she saw me, she gave me a warm but non-sexual hug, the way women typically hug their best friend or sister. ( Ammo Summer’s soft vibe playing itself out, perhaps?) We sat down at the bar side-by-side. I read somewhere that it’s better than the more stereotypical sitting across the table, because it allows for more kino/touching. Which is exactly what I did, especially one moment when I had her demonstrate a dance move with me that I was describing. (I basically took her by the hand, and led her through. I’ve used this tactic with a number of women before, as a fun excuse to break the touch barrier, and never had someone respond badly.)

Throughout the date, we talked about places we went to, what dances we know, where our families are from, and a little bit about our jobs. As the date went on, I noticed the hits fade away, and at one point, she even held her arms in front of her briefly. She still smiled and talked plenty, but I don’t know, the arms-in-front body language kind of rubbed me the wrong way a little. At the end, there wasn’t even a hug, although she may have wanted to get to her car quickly, since there was a group of young men standing around the entrance.

Conclusion
I doubt there will be a second date. I’ll call her in a day or so, because she was fun and attractive enough for me to want to see her again, but that’s mostly a last-ditch effort. She did tell me where she will be doing Latin dancing later this week, and said that I should come, but the wording was more friendly than romantic, and no real date was scheduled. But since the time invested into her was so low (just a week’s wait, and a 10-minute drive to a bar near me), it’s really no big deal.

On the plus side, I do expect my Ammo World and Instant Openness to arrive by then, so I just might come to the Latin club where she will be, with those pheromones sprayed on. Perhaps she will respond better to Ammo World, since it’s more masculine, and her seeing me dance with other women will only make me look more attractive to her. (I’m pretty good at Latin dancing, and she knows it.) If she will be just a friend, not my first choice, but it won’t be too difficult to adjust, since I knew her for such a short time.

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P84 solo test: Wow! Just wow!

Last night, I went out to play soccer with my sports group, who I haven’t played with in a while, due to being busy with work until recently. The morning prior, I received my order of Ammo World, Instant Openness , and P84 . I already know about Ammo World and IO , but P84 was new to me. So I decided to test it out on my sports group. I put on 2 sprays (5 mcg each) on the sides of my neck. (The other two, I’ll test out in a salsa club.)

A bit of background info: I usually don’t do so hot in the way of charisma, such as having to put in extra effort to have my question/comment/request heard in a group. This includes my sports group to some extent. But that night, people seemed to listen to me almost without question. For example, I suggested doing a practice circle (the 6 players standing in a small circle, and kicking the ball to each other, going clockwise), and people immediately agreed and took the time to hear my explanation of what I wanted to do. Normally, this kind of thing comes to me with some difficulty, although I’m working on that by correcting my body langauge, and even planning to take a public speaking and/or a voice training class. (Although those will have to wait until I’m working again, since they’re kind of pricey.)

Speaking of voice, no one had a problem hearing me. I’d say something, and people within hearing range would immediately answer or comment back. That was true even though we played outside in a city park, on a windy day, near a noisy street. I have to add that I was wearing a camouflage T-shirt, so perhaps it subconsciously reminded people of the army, where listening to commands is everything, which added fuel to the fire called P84 . (Come to think of it, I sometimes get slightly better service in stores when I wear camouflage T-shirts.)

Perhaps it’s a friendly, co-operative group (which it is), and/or the people were in an unusually good mood that night, but it never comes so easy for me to be heard when talking in a group setting, let alone giving sports commands. P84 is worth its weight in liquid gold!

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Negative hits in a Latin dance club. Did I OD on Ammo?

I recently got my order of Ammo World, Instant Openness, and P84. I had great results from P84, so I wanted to test out the other two products. I put on 3 sprays of Ammo World on my neck, 3 sprays of IO on my hair, and 1 spray of IShine on my hair. Then I drove over to the club. On the drive over, I noticed somewhat of a slowed reaction time and a slight hypnotic effect coming from looking down a row of light poles, although nothing to make driving dangerous.

In the class, I kept getting a lot of negative hits. Some of the women I danced with looked uncomfortable with me, or flat-out criticized the moved I did. (This is very rare, since I’ve been doing Latin dancing for years, and get compliments more often than not.) For the criticisms, I was able to give a short explanation if they were polite about it, or brush them off if they weren’t. There were, however, a few women who were great. They smiled a lot, danced a little closer than usual (not pressing into me, but close enough for chests to bump into each other occasionaly), and complimented me. But the key word is “a few”; there were more like the above. All these women were Caucasian or Hispanic, ages 25 to 45.

I went with two female friends, close to me in age, neither of whom I’m that romantically interested in. That is, I’d give her a chance if one of them showed interest, but I enjoy the drama-free friendship the way it is. In fact, many professional dancers have a strictly working relationship with their regular partner. Anyway, those girls are at the same skill level as me, so we work well together on the dance floor. That is, they can follow my lead easily, and are cool with the quirks in my dancing, if any. I got no negative hits from them, just the usual dances and friendly jokes, with a touch of teasing thrown in.

I’ve known my friends for years, so they were probably able to get past my overdose of Ammo World. But what about those other women in the club? Did I really use too much? What should I do differently next time? I also own Ammo Summer and P91, in addition to what I already mentioned.

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Karaoke Hits with a Pheromone Mix

Last night, I went out to a karaoke night at a bar with a group of people. There were about 8 of us: 6 guys, 2 girls. I sprayed on the following pheromones before heading out. Some pretty fun hits transpired, different on different people. If it makes a difference for the list below, I wore a T-shirt.
Ammo World: 3 sprays, on the neck
Instant Openness: 2 sprays, one on each arm
Instant Shine: 2 sprays, one on each arm
P84: 1 spray, on forehead
Ammo Summer: 1 spray, on upper lip (for self-effect)

Self
As usual, I got some self-effects. Except unlike from pure Ammo Summer, which made me feel super-relaxed and hypnotized by light poles while driving, Ammo World gave me more of an “I own this road” kind of feel, although all within the boundaries of safe driving. I hope they don’t fade soon, because I love the self-effects.

My group
They treated me mostly as they usually do. Although I did have a quite easier time getting my voice heard. They also made spent a lot less time egging me on to go sing or dance with a girl. I did those things anyway, and it seems like they trusted me to be brave enough to do it.

Bar employees
It was mostly women who worked there, with men being just the DJ and a manager. The men were very respectful and polite with me, and responded to my approaches almost instantaneously. I had to use only a minimum effort of assertiveness to get my requests fulfilled, like to put in a song request with the DJ, and to ask the manager to send the waitress to my table. The women’s responses were more mixed. One bar girl was totally awesome! She smiled at me, walked up to edge of the bar the second she saw me walking over, brought my drinks in under a minute, and called me “hon” (although if she’s from the South, that’s normal). Other girls didn’t smile as much, and it even seemed like they brought my drinks reluctantly.

Two non-single women
There were two girls in the bar who were singing karaoke. They were up, and I was standing close enough to hear their request: “Apple Bottom Jeans”. Suddenly, they looked right at me, and waved me over to sing with them. So I did. We did a little bit of grinding during the chorus, with the girls making a TheAttractor sandwich. At the end, they said “thanks for playing”, each of them gave me a light hug—the kind women give when a handshake feels too formal, and a full hug is unfitting—and walked back to their boyfriends.

Three women, one of them single
As other people sang, I saw three women get up and dance to the song. I whispered to another guy at my table to help me out, and we walked over to the dancing women. I grabbed the one looking at me by the hand, and started dancing with her. The song was jazz-like, which you can swing dance to. The woman didn’t know swing, but could follow my lead pretty well, and complimented me a lot. I looked over at the guy helping me out; he was dancing too, but I was getting a much more affectionate dance. She danced very closely, oblivious of the fact that we met just minutes ago.

The single woman: part 1
It was a fairly long song, so I had plenty of time to enjoy her company. After the dance, we exchanged a close hug, and I kind of let her be, as not to monopolize her company and not abandon my friends. (Although them being mostly guys, they’d understand.) About 45 minutes later, I went onstage to sing. My song as “American Pie” by Don McLean. A verse or two into the song, my “new friend” joined in to sing with me. Her friends joined a few seconds later, but they simple stood there. This woman was acting very cuddly with me, in front of the entire bar: wrapping her arm around me, putting her hear on my shoulder, and rubbing her hair against me. Then a very nice hug at the end of the song.

The single woman: part 2
Again, to avoid showing desperation and/or monopolizing her, I kind of let her be, so she could enjoy her friends’ company. But that’s not all: I got her phone number at the end of the night. And her face seemed to light up when I asked her. I don’t know if anyone follows the three-day rule anymore, or maybe it only applies to first dates, not initial meetings. So I’ll call or text her tonight, or tomorrow at the latest.

Closing thoughts
Wow! I must have discovered a great mix. It was hits, hits, hits, hits! (Sing the last sentence to the tune of “shots, shots, shots, shots” for full effect. Your thoughts?

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Karaoke Hits with a Pheromone Mix II: The Sequel

Good news! I ended up seeing that woman again. (Hereafter referred to as J.) I called her two days after getting her phone number, as a compromise between the three-day rule and the next-day rule. We a had a brief but very happy conversation, where she complimented me on virtually everything, and agreed to meet at the same bar a few days later. Two of her friends were playing in a band, and she said she wanted me to see the show. When the day arrived, I put on the same pheromone combination as in the first post, and drove over to the bar. I invited one friend to come along to act as my wingman, if need be. Here are that night’s hits.

J, the woman from last time
She saw me, recognized me, and greeted me with a hug. Throughout the evening, she acted very affectionate with me. She’d lean on my shoulder, rub her hair against me, intertwine fingers with me, and kiss me on the cheek. This is about as far as the physical contact went. Apparently, she’s a regular in the bar, because I saw her greet other regulars. It took me some effort to resist looking in her direction when she talked to other people, as to avoid looking needy. I noticed her acting almost equally affectionate with her girl friends, and to a lesser extent, her guy friends. (The guys didn’t get things like finger intertwining and hair rubbing, which I did.) I found out that she was 42, which is older than who I’d normally date. But she’s still a lot of fun, so I’ll give her a chance and see. Even if it’ll just be a friendship, I’m cool with that, and I can rationalize it being due to her age. (I already told her I was 31.) And if it’ll be an FWB, well, hey, I’m not going to complain.

J’s friend
While J was at the other side of the bar, talking to one of the bartenders, I started talking to one of J’s friends (let’s call her C). C seemed to enjoy my company right away. It started out with an innocent high-five in response to something I said, but almost immediately progressed to boobage; that is, poking my chest and arms with her breasts when she leaned over to talk to me. I took it as a low-level IOI , so I grabbed her by the hand, and pulled her into a dance. Right away, she pressed her breasts into me, which felt really good. I noticed J from my side vision, looking at us. C looked about 50, so I didn’t plan on asking her phone number; I just enjoyed the attention. Plus, I found out C is married.

My thoughts
It was a good night like last time. It looks like Ammo World and Instant Openness did most of the work, with some help from P84 (which seems to be a “listen to me” pheromone, with the way these women showed zero resistance when I grabbed them by the hand to dance with them). Both J and C showed obliviousness of social boundaries with a stranger (me) as well; they acted cuddly and affectionate within minutes of meeting me. This brings me to another thing: While Ammo Summer, which I tried first, gives the most hits with early 20-something women, Ammo World does wonders with the 40+ crowd. Although, older women are also less likely to worry about what people think and instead just go for what they want.

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First date pheromone report with Ammo World

I recently had a first date, with a girl I met on a dating site. Before going on the date, I put on the following pheromones.
Ammo World: 3 sprays on neck
Instant Openness : 2 sprays on wrists, one each
Instant Shine : 2 sprays on wrists, one each
P84 : 1 spray on chest

Overall, the date went pretty well, although the final verdict is still up in the air. She’s about my age. The hits I got were pretty interesting, peppered with a good number of IOI 's throughout. Here at the hits I got.

Self
Unlike with using Ammo Summer on a date, which I’ve done before, Ammo World had a more energizing self-effect, and even made me feel a little wound up. Although, the latter probably happened because I was going straight from work, and got caught in traffic, and was worried about being late. (I wasn’t.)

Group of teenagers
When I got to the ice cream place, my date called me, and said she was stuck in traffic (how ironic!) and will be a little late. I found a bench half a block away, and sat down to read a newspaper. (Waiting on a bench somehow makes me feel less self-conscious than waiting inside at the table.) There was a group of teens on the adjacent bench, talking loudly and tossing small items into a garbage bin. I pretty much tuned them out. One guy threw a McDonald’s cup, but it bounced off the bin, landed on the ground, and spilled. That’s when I looked up from my newspaper with a “WTF!” look on my face. The kid looked clearly embarrassed, and said: “sorry, sir; I’ll pick it up”, and did just that. The whole group went quiet, until I stood up to go meet my date by the entrance.

My date
It started out well. She looked more attractive in person than in her photos. I was greeted with a handshake, which I found overly formal (I usually do a light hug), but whatever. She apologized for being late, which I thought was a good sign, we got our ice creams, and sat down. Throughout the date, the conversation flowed very smoothly, with only one or two brief moments of awkward silence, which I was able to recover from. We talked more about her than me; plus, she moved around a lot, and I found it interesting. About halfway through, I started seeing what I believe to be IOI 's: she fiddled with her hair (neck length) a lot, and showed no discomfort when I touched her hand to emphasize a point. We talked for quite a while, and almost lost track of time; an hour passed since then. I remembered a rule I read in a book, about stopping a date while it’s still fun, as opposed to letting it run out of steam (and by extension, her interest). So I did just that. We parted ways with a hug, which I found kind of dry, but again, whatever. Maybe she’s just shy.

Thoughts
This girl struck me as a little emotionally flat, so to speak, but that’s not a deal-breaker at all. I have a tendency to be like that myself. She didn’t show much inflection variation in her voice, even when we talked about things I knew she was into. In the past, my successful dates were quite animated emotionally, and even touchy-feely. But the IOI 's were really nice. I’m hoping for a second date.

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P84 solo test: Wow! Just wow! (PART 2)

Well, I got something new to add. I went to play a recreational baseball game with my sports group yesterday. I wore P84 again, 3 sprays on my neck. I also added 1 spray of P91 on my chest. This time, it was a younger crowd, mostly 30-somethings and some 20-somethings, a mixed group of men and women. It was a hot, humid day, but no wind. We played in the same city park where we played soccer last time (first post).

Just like last time, no one had trouble hearing me, despite the noise from other people and passing cars, and people responded right away when I asked a question or made a comment. They also seemed to really like my jokes, such as when I ran triple (third base) and said “Hell yeah! Better than my date last night.” (There was no date; I was just being funny.) These kinds of jokes are well-accepted in my sports group, although I don’t always have the guts to say them. I also got a lot of high-fives, even from people who played better than I did, although that could have been because I did a good job myself. Those who are wondering, I didn’t wear a camouflage shirt during the game ; just a US flag T-shirt in support of today’s (Sunday) World Cup.

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P84, P91, & IShine got me a JOB!

I’ve been mostly unemployed for the past 3 months, other than doing odd jobs to boost whatever income I was getting from my state’s unemployment office. One day, a company recruiter found my resume, contacted me, and invited me to come in for an interview.

Before heading out to the (potential) job site, I put on the following pheromones:
P84 : 3 sprays on the neck
P91 : 2 sprays on the chest
IShine : 2 sprays on the back of hands, 1 each

I met with three people: one from HR, and two from IT, the department where I will be working. I haven’t been paying too much attention to hits, but here’s what I noticed.

Self
Very little difference from not using pheromones at all. Just the usual “psyched and ready” feeling I always get when going to job interviews.

HR Manager/Recruiter
Age and race: mid 30’s, Caucasian
She met me in the front lobby, and walked me to her office. We sat down at her desk, and went over the company’s policies and benefits package. During our conversation, she was very pleasant, and patiently answered my questions, even the ones that you’re “not supposed to” ask during interviews, like about vacations. (During the last three 3 years, being able to take a vacation became extremely important to me.) With the HR portion of the interview out of the way, she walked me over to the IT managers’ office.

IT Supervisor 1
Age and race: mid 40’s, Caucasian
He was the person I will be officially reporting to. He gave me a technical test, where I had to answer questions about stuff like pinging IP addresses, dealing with difficult users, etc. The test looked a lot harder than it was, and when I finished it, he praised me like I just got him a $10,000 bonus. Apparently, I got all answers right except one. We even briefly went off on a tangent, when I mentioned my hobby of flying a Cessna airplane, which got him smiling.

IT Supervisor 2
Age and race: late 30’s, Caucasian
He was IT Supervisor 1’s colleague, but I’m sure for all practical purposes, I’ll be answering to him just the same. He had a more laid-back personality. He was very patient with me, even when I pretty much grilled him on the unwritten expectations. That’s things like when are you really expected to reply when someone e-mails you at 10:00 PM. He gave me honest answers, and I liked what I heard.

In my past experiences, I seem to do best with male interviewers older than me, regardless of whether I use pheromones or not. Men my age create a sense of competition (evolutionary reasons), which works against me. And women pick up more on things like nervousness and/or dusty scuff marks on shoes, which are no-nos in the interviewing world.

So in the end, I got a JOB thanks to P84 , P91 , and Instant Shine . I’m definitely looking forward to it. I will be working on a team of eight, as opposed to the ever-so-common “one IT guy fighting off hordes of users” scenario. The company could be better in terms of compensation and being economy-dependent, but the vacation time they offer is great.

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GOOD STUFF!! Congratulations on scoring a new gig. Best of luck in “wow-ing” everyone at your new workplace. It’ll be fun to have a new testing ground for the mones. Have at it :smiley:

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Way to go TheAttractor, good luck with the new job. Still a very difficult job market out there.

Maybe try some A314 for on the job respect hits to get off on the right foot.

Good luck!

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Thanks. I just might order A314 next. It’s a very hard-charging environment in the company I’m working at, so I need all the leverage I can get. Maybe even a touch of IJ, for good measure.

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Pheromones Ammo Summer, P91 and P84 got me a kiss on a first date!

I met on a dating site. The first time we scheduled to meet at a bar for cocktails, she texted me the morning of, claiming she was feeling sick. I simply didn’t respond, as a way of making her worry she’d stand me up; it’s a tactic I read on another site. When we rescheduled, I made it clear that I forgive first-date cancellations only once. Long story short, we had our first date on Thursday last week.

We went to one of those trampoline places for adults, that are popping up everywhere. (Beforehand, I sent her a link to their website, so she can read up on it and bring a change of clothes.) David DeAngelo, a well-known PUA author, once wrote that women are attracted to guys who come up with off-the-wall date ideas. So I did.

Before going on the date, I put on the following pheromones. (I went there straight from work, so I ducked into a restroom to do that.)
Ammo Summer: 3 sprays on front of neck
P84 : 2 sprays on sides of neck (1 each)
P91 : 2 sprays behind ears (1 each)

Here’s how the date went and the hits.

She started off extremely well. When I arrived, we greeted each other with a light hug. That’s when she told me that she took the liberty of calling the place in the afternoon, and reserved a time slot for when we were supposed to meet. Whether she was just a thoughtful person, or maybe her conscience got on her case about canceling on me earlier, I thought that was an awesome gesture. Either way, here are the hits.

Self
Very little or none at all. Just the usual “excited about my date” feeling, with no accompanying nervousness.

Employee of the place
Age and race: early 20’s, Caucasian
He seemed to smile an awful lot when he talked, and sounded like he recognized my date’s voice from talking to her on the phone. He pulled up her name, I paid for two people, he had us our sign waivers, and explained what everything was about. I’ve gone trampolining before, but my date hasn’t, so I let my date hear him out, and even stepped aside a little, just to show how secure I was. He kind of looked like he wanted to flirt with her, but wasn’t comfortable doing so with me there.

My date: part 1
Age and race: early 30’s, Caucasian
We went into respective restrooms to change. She came out wearing gym pants and T-shirt. (I had athletic shorts and a T-shirt.) We hit the trampoline area right away. She had that look in her eyes, that meant “oh wow, I don’t know what this is, but I like it!”. I verbally guided her on how to get the best jump, and under the pretext of guiding her along, took her by both hands. She had a clear counter-reaction of squeezing my hands and smiling. Our time slot was 1 hour, so when we took a break and sat down on a bench, she showed no negative reaction when I my arm around her, and even put her arm around me. She reacted equally well when I put my hands on her back or shoulders, when pretending to dance with her on the trampolines (there was music playing).

My date: part 2
After we changed back into our street clothes, we hit the concession stand. She insisted on treating me, saying that I paid for the trampoline time. I thought it was very nice of her to do this. She seemed to look in my eyes a lot, and we held hands across the table with fingers intertwined. We even tried each other’s ice cream (with our own spoons), which was definitely a hit. We left the place, and I walked her to her car. A parting hug (my original intention) where she was pressing into me, turned into turned into a kiss, and she seemed to enjoy it as much as I did.

Thoughts
As the title indicates, the date went smashingly. She said she wants to see me again, although we still had only one short phone conversation. We haven’t set an exact date for the second date (awkward sentence, I know), although sometime next weekend is definitely in order. Obviously, the kiss at the end was as blatant as an IOI gets (outside of sex), but I saw other IOI 's as well.

What do you think? Was the date as great as I’m describing it? Or could it be possible that she just wanted a time-filler of sorts, and the kiss was just a kiss? (I’m well aware that women will never kiss a guy they don’t like, but thought I’d ask anyway.) Other comments are welcome too.

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Trivia Night in a Bar with MX297, IH, and P131 - Fewer Hits Than Expected

MX297 - 2 sprays on temples, 1 each
IH - 2 sprays on sides of neck, 1 each
P131 - 1 spray on forehead @ 5 mcg/spray
Bvlgari Aqva cover scent

I arrived at the bar, ordered my beer, and we started with trivia contest shortly later. These are the following reactions I observed.

Self
Demographic: male, 32, Caucasian
Inconclusive. I was also testing the self-effects of P122 the same night, which I sprayed on my upper lip, so the P122 effects predominated over anything I sprayed on other parts of my head. It made me feel ill-at-ease, but the feeling passed when I arrived at the bar.

Waitress
Demographic: female, late 20’s, Caucasian
No real difference from how waitresses usually treat me. She brought my drink orders pretty quickly, and took the time to patiently answer my questions. Although, this might be a hit after all, since it was a trivia night, and the bar was pretty crowded. I wasn’t paying attention to how quickly she brought drinks to other people at my table.

Man across from me
Demographic: male, mid 40’s, Caucasian
He was pretty friendly to me, although he gave off a friendly vibe in general when I first saw him. We exchanged comments about which beers are good, as well as answers to trivia questions. I didn’t notice anything different than how I imagined he’d act if I weren’t wearing pheromones.

Woman to my left
Demographic: female, late 20’s, Caucasian
She was pretty friendly too. We exchanged a few jokes, and she even chimed in when she overheard me talk to the man in the last paragraph. I did a few flirty maneuvers, like a momentary touch on the arm when talking. Her reactions were neither positive nor negative. She wasn’t repulsed by it, but also didn’t flirt back; basically, she acted like it’s no big deal.

Woman to my right
Demographic: female, 30’s or 40’s (hard to tell), Asian
She was the only person where I noticed somewhat negative hits. Other than when the host asked questions, the music in the bar was kind of loud. So I had to lean in toward her to talk or listen to her. And whenever I’d lean in, she’d lurch away a little bit, like she was intimidated or uncomfortable. I adjusted my behavior by leaning in a little less.

Other people at my table
Demographics: late 20’s to late 40’s, mostly Caucasian
They sat too far away from me to be much affected by my pheromones, but the answered me pretty quickly. One other thing that caught my attention is that at the end of the contest, everybody dispersed almost instantly. Although it was late on a weeknight, and people had jobs to get to next day.

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P122 self effect report

Product: P122
Dosage: 1 spray @ 5 mcg/spray
Demographic: male, 32, Causasian
Scent: mostly neroli, with an ever-so-slight hint of something else that I can’t put my finger on
Spray site: upper lip
Time of day: early evening, still light out
Overall reaction: negative
Post-pheromone feelings: ill-at-ease, scatterbrained

My immediate reaction was feeling perked up and more active, like most people feel when the sun comes out after rain. I had to leave home, which I did. That’s when I noticed I became strangely drawn to color green; it just looked more vivid than all other colors, and really seemed to jump out at me. And it was anything green: trees, grass, road signs, stoplights, BP gas station logos, etc. (I can only imagine what it’d be like I used P122 on St. Patrick’s Day. :slight_smile: ) I didn’t notice anything else weird, so I thought it’d be OK to drive.

But for some reason, it quickly degenerated into feeling ill-at-ease and anxious, like a pot smoker driving past a police station (in states other than CO or WA). I also became really scatterbrained. The only thing that was keeping me safe behind the wheel was over a decade of driving experience. I decided to pull into a forest preserve and walk around until the scatterbrained feeling passed. Needless to say, the greenery around me kept me in a wowed state for nearly half an hour.

When I continued driving, the feeling intensified. It wasn’t a fear of anything specific, just a general sense of “Something ain’t right!” Also, areas along the road that I knew well looked kind of unrecognizable (a.k.a. jamais vu, opposite of deja vu). Fortunately, the green street name signs jumping out at me, like they did earlier, helped keep me oriented in space. Occasionally, I felt moments of ethereal calm, but they passed pretty quickly. The ill-at-ease feeling did not go away completely until I arrived at the bar, sat down, and drank a beer.

Thoughts:
I did not like it at all, and will not buy it, unless this experience was simply a dud, and I have a better one next time. Now I’m hesitant to use it on other people, since it that that bad of an effect on me.