So many tests So little time - My journal

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Hey Renny, I’ve been following your TAH, TAL fueled class escapades, and yea, it’s got me to thinking that I need to play with them a bit.

I was almost going to try to get the girl I had dated for the last couple of weeks to try some TAL, but thought it better to wait a while before trying to introduce here to pheros. Wouldn’t have mattered anyway I guess, cause aside from the physical side of it, we had nothig to build or base a relationship on. That’s the problem when you date someone half your age I guess, but dammit, it was fun while it lasted. :smiley: :wink:

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Ok, so now that I’ve thoroughly tested the ICM 0.25.1a mix, it was high time to start playing with my other toys!

Renny’s escapades with TAL and TAH caught my curiosity and I figured I’d jump on the bandwagon, so I sprayed on 25 mcg’s of TAH, then just for good measure another 25 mcg’s of Androstenone, spayed to the chest and back of neck, then took off to Walmart, cause it’s always easy to insure that you can be around at least a couple of women, and make for a quick getaway if things go astray.

First encounter: I notice a HB in the electronics section, sorting through printer cartridges, so I meander down the aisle and smile at her as I pass by. She has kind of a lost puppy dog look on her face and musters a smile back at me. I walk up the next isle, then head off to another part of the store.

5 minutes later, I’m in the pharmacy section picking up some sinus spray, and see the HB from earlier on the other side of the isle. Next I head to the beer and wine section to pick up a 12 pack, and low and behold the same HB passes by me again. As I go to checkout, the same girl once again passes by and smiles at me on her way past, all the while she still had this lost puppy look on her face. Instead of checking out though, I notice her go up an aisle then turn heading back to the pharmacy area that we had been in earlier.

As I’m in the checkout line I notice that I’d also seen the girl behind me in the beer and wine section, but she doesn’t have either in her cart, and I get a smile out of her too.

Finally I get to the cashier, and say hello. She gives me the same lost puppy look and says hi in a giggly voice. As I hand her the money she looking into my eyes rather than at my hand and has a hard time taking the money from me, and she’s still giggly. Then when she gives me my receipt, instead of just putting her hand out for me to take it, she puts it in my hand and folds my fingers over it with her thumb. We say goodbye and as I’m walking away, I turn back and see her turning to look away.

Quite interesting and most definitely a combo I’m going to play with some more. I know that Mystery Boy has Androstenone, TAH and probably a couple more molecules in it, and I was concerned that with what I was wearing I might give off a gay vibe, which was the reason for first testing at a Walmart instead of somewhere that I planning to be for awhile.

However, from the effects I noticed, I really don’t think that was the vibe. I have to test further, but my initial thoughts are that maybe it was more of a masculine, but soft and understanding aura. Like maybe the kind of guy that they could be attracted to, but also one that could understand and relate to them?

More testing is definitely in my plans.

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So after my little Walmart experiment I decided to go to Hooters, as I’ve tired of The Wing House, and they have a bunch of new girls that are just really bad waitresses.

It had been about 2 1/2 hours since my previous application, and I knew the Androstenone would still be going strong, but wasn’t completely sure about the TAH. I didn’t want to add anymore, but decided on applying 2 sprays of CTTM 2 and 20 mcg’s of TAA, then 10 mcg’s of TAC just for good measure.

I get to Hooters and grab a table, and the waitress I get turns out to be a girl that the last time I was there I commented to about her gorgeous eyes. I ended up staying there for 4 hours (until she got off work), and she sat with me the entire time, except to check on her other customers. We talked about everything in the world and had a blast. At one point she asked if I would excuse her because a guy she described as a dirty old man just came in and she wanted to go hide so he wouldn’t sit in her section. When she came back she told me that some customers make her really uncomfortable, but she felt really relaxed and comfortable with me.

I didn’t get any lost puppy looks, DIHL’s or IOI’s from her or any of the other girls, but did get smiles from a couple of the girls who had never smiled at me before, and a couple of them came over and talked to me for a minute or 2, while my waitress was away doing her job. And, I had never had any of the girls spend all their free time with me before. Everytime she had to leave I would see a big smile on her face when she was coming back.

However, expecting a Hooters girl to hit on you is almost like going to a strip club to pick up girls…Not very likely to happen.

I think the TAH had probably started to wear off when I got there, cause I was hoping to see at least 1 or 2 lost puppy looks, but the CTTM 2 and TAA were definitely shining through.

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Just a note, since I talk a lot about girls wedging themselves between my legs while I’m sitting in front of the stage at Cowboys Red River, my latest avatar pic shows where I always sit.

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Wow, I was just looking at todays birthdays, and noticed that I’m in the top 21 posters now! I don’t quite know whether I should feel privileged, important, or like an Androtics addict. But hey, I do thrive on recognition. :smiley:

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bit off topic - apologies…just wanted to congradulate you on making the top 21 posters lineup =D

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oh nevermind, i guess its right on topic. I didint even read your last reply :slight_smile: heh

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Why thank you Andrew!

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I have been there before, and it’s true I am much younger than you but I would like to offer some advice. Take it or leave it! In your inner game, you know a stripper can hit on you, in your reality. Because of that a sexy hooters girl will get pulled in by your reality. You can also reframe it so that she is hitting on you and get her to play along…

“You’re spending so much time with me, which means you find me attractive.”

I slowly realized that no woman was “out of my league” when I started getting outside my comfort zone.

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Well, my first wife was a stripper, and back when I was in my mid 30’s, and after my second divorce, I figured I couldn’t do any worse and started frequenting a strip club. I got to know all the girls there and dated and slept with a number of them. But, I learned that with strippers, the way to picking them up was to act like you weren’t interested in them for their bodies or as sex objects, but just wanted to talk and get to know them. Then they became easy targets.

I agree completely about “inner game” and no woman being out of your league. I have found that it’s actually much easier to pick up the prettiest girl in a nightclub, than it is to get the mediocre looking ones.

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Thursday night I went a little crazy with my pheros and had a rather interesting and unusual night at my usual Cowboys Red River haunt. This is what I wore, all sprayed on individually:

TAA - 30 mcg’s
TAH - 20 mcg’s
TAC - 20 mcg’s
P74 - 20 mcg’s
P83 - 25 mcg’s
Androstenone - 25 mcg’s
Androsterone - 10 mcg’s
CTTM 2 - 3 sprays

The night actually started rather uneventful and kind of slow, just a few people that I knew and not really a lot of women that I was interested in pursuing. But, as the night went on it did pickup some.

The first thing I noticed that was a little out of character was that a girl I’ve seen there each week for the last month or two but never said anything more than hi to, came walking over and gave me a hug.

A little while later a couple of girls are sitting next to me, one with her boyfriend and they take off to the other side of the subwoofer box and start a fight with another guy and girl that AI know. Not seeing any bouncers anywhere, I flip myself over the subwoofer box and start pulling them apart. I fully expected the guy I knew to get irritated and tell me to stay out of it, and the girl to strain and keep trying to fight, however, both just backed down and let it end. I climb back over to my side, and the girl and guy I didn’t know had already come back around by the other girl. She sees me clibing back to my place and I guess that she thought I was going to start a fight or yell at her, cause she gets this worried look on her face and says please, no. I tell her that I’m just taking my seat back and as long as she leaves my friends alone we’re good. I’m expecting the guy to get all pissy over my comment, but instead they start acting friendly toward me.

A little while later the hourly hip-hop/dance set comes on. During the dance sets, people dance on top of the subwoofer box that I sit on, and this cute girl jumps on the box then leans down and asks if she can wear my hat. I of course take it off and put it on her head, and she puts her hands on my shoulders and starts dancing. When the set was finished, she takes the hat off and leans down and kisses me, then puts the hat back on my head, tells me her name and says I should come find her and ask her to dance later.

During the course of the night, I start realizing that the girls I know pretty well seem to be a little put off or distant toward me, but girls I didn’t know seem somewhat more flirty and friendly. There’s one woman in particular that’s there every week and always hitting on me, kissing on me, etc. She’s older, and someone that I just don’t have an interest in, so I’ve never given her reason to think that anythings going to happen or returned any kind of affection, but she persists anyway. This night she came over and kissed my cheek, but left me alone the rest of the night.

At the end of the night, after last call, this girl comes walking over and puts her hand on my thigh and says hello, she then reaches over and cups my crotch and starts playing with it. I am a bit surprised but muster out, aren’t you forward? She gives my privates a light squeeze, smiles at me then lets go and walks away. As I watch her leave, and am trying to figure out what that was all about. I see her walking toward a group of 4 girls who are all looking our way. She goes straight over to the group and they start walking toward the door and as they are leaving the club all 5 of them turn and wave at me.

I can’t yet get a grip on this mix, as the results were rather odd, but I think I’m going to play around with the compounds and ratios a bit, because I think with some tweaking and maybe remixing it’s got real potential.

Rather interesting night indeed.

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Ok so Saturday night at Red River I tweaked the mix from Thursday night somewhat to resemble SteveO’s sex mix a little closer, but swapping P83 for P93 and adding TAH. My concentrations were:

None - 25 mcg
B-Androstenol - 25 mcg
P74 - 20 mcg
P83 - 25 mcg
TAA - 30 mcg
TAC - 20 mcg

With this mix I did not get the blatant hits like I did Thursday night, but I did have a couple of women display IOI’s, and caught several girls giving me pretty hard looks.

Of the IOI’s, in all fairness I did know both girls and one of them has always been pretty friendly, but she has a boyfriend (I think) cause she is always there with the same guy. She will abandon the BF and come sit with me whenever the band plays, but out of respect for the guy I would never think about hitting on her. Last night she kept leaning into me and acting pretty flirtatious.

The other girl is one that sat next to me one night awhile back and nothing more than hello was said. When I got to the club the band was playing and my usual spot was taken, so I stood next to her for 5 minutes or so while the band finished the set, then as it thinned out in front of the stage, I moved to my usual spot. 10 minutes later or so, she comes walking over and starts up a conversation with me, and while there was plenty of room, she felt the need to press herself up against my leg. By the way, the 2 girls also know each other, and were almost competing with each other for my attention when the band came back on.

Both of these girls are probably early 40’s or so. The other girls I caught looking at me were all younger, with friends, but none made an effort to come over and talk to me.

Later in the evening a girl that I had not seen in probably 6 months or so came in with her boyfriend (or so I thought) and another girl. She came over and gave me a hug and we got to talking. The last time that I had seen her she said she was going to breakup with the BF and that she hated being with him, so I asked if things had gotten better for her. She said yeah we’re just friends now so we ought to get together. I ended up leaving with her. Before she had stopped coming to the club we did have a good vibe between us and a decent bit of KINO, so I can’t really say that we wouldn’t have hooked up without the pheros, but I’m sure they didn’t hurt either.

Observations of this mix: I think removing the Androsterone made it a less intimidating than my mix from Thursday night, but it’s not a “Smells Like Sex” mix and didn’t generate any hardcore hits or IOI’s like I had Thursday.

Just a guess but maybe the Androsterone worn in the mix on Thursday balanced out the TAH somewhat and drew in the confident alpha females? While with my mix from last night without the Rone, the two women in their 40’s were definitely not alpha types, although the girl I left with is.

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Boy, you’ve been busy! Just wanted to pop in and congratulate you on makin’ ‘the top 21’, cowboy! :slight_smile: :wink:

And yes, like the rest of us, you are an AD junkie…lol :smiley:

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Well thank you Bella

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Yesterday was another trip to Hooters. This time wearing:

TAA: 30 mcg’s
TAL: 15 mcg’s
Androstenone: 20 mcg’s

I got there a little before 5:00 PM and was meeting a friend there, but he didn’t show up until around 5:30. The waitress I had when I got there I had not seen before, and she didn’t seem to be in a very good mood. Thank god at 5:00 another waitress came over and said she’d be taking over my table.

The girl that sat with me most of the night last week was working, but in a different section. She came over and gave me a hug, then pulled up a seat and we started talking a bit. Throughout the evening she kept coming over for a couple of minutes at a time whenever she had a chance, and every time she did she would have a big smile on her face. Nothing really flirtatious going on with her, but I did notice that she seemed to carry herself a little more confidently than she had last week. TAL effect, maybe?

The waitress that took over my table didn’t really come over much while my friend and I were talking, but he only stuck around for about an hour or so, then left. I stuck around for a couple more hours, and after he left she started coming over more frequently and spending time talking with me, sticking around for longer periods of time and becoming somewhat flirtatious. At one point in the evening she had to fill the s/p shakers and fill/clean the hot sauce bottles. Instead of doing so at each table, as would seem the normal way to do it, she rounded everything up and brought it all over to my table, so she could sit with me while doing her work.

On coming out of the restroom, I saw 2 cuties sitting at a table and one was shoveling a barely touched salad into a to-go box, so I stopped a their table and poked fun at her barely touching her food, which got a smile from both of them and I stuck around talking with them for a little while, until they were getting ready to leave. Initially, even after getting them to laugh, they were a somewhat guarded and standoffish, but within a couple of minutes they seemed to open up and became quite friendly. When they said they had to go and were getting ready to leave I told them that if they would stick around for a bit longer, I’d buy them a drink, but one of the girls said we’re not 21 yet, and they both had to get up early.

Effects: This was a fun mix that I’ll probably try again in a different environment. Not overly sexual, but it seemed to make girls a Little more forward, friendly, instill more confidence in themselves and want to be around me. It did not seem to have an immediate effect, but seemed to have a greater impact after a couple of minutes of exposure.

I am guessing that may be due to the TAL? Any ladies want to comment?

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Very nice and insightful expierence you shared with us mark! sounds like a good time up there :slight_smile: was the hooters in a mall or just a standalone?

Marks robbin the cradle!

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Standalone Hooters,

And hey, I just assumed the girls to be over 21. :roll_eyes:

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You’re guessin’ right, cowboy. Though I don’t have straight TAL, just Instant Sexiness/A…which, of course, is TAL heavy. I posted in renny’s journal…so you pretty much know my comments. Don’t think straight Tal will be on my list any time soon…lol…maybe…if it comes with a flack jacket…:smiley:

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I got a bunch of new stuff in yesterday and tried out a few products I had never used before. I posted a new thread on what I wore and result and effects here: The Makings of a Rock Star

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Ok, so Saturday night at Cowboys Red River I wore something close to the mix from Thursday night that I dubbed the Rock Star mix, and got very similar results, with a little more sexual assertiveness. Here is what I wore:

EOW (Straight Copulins) - 1 drop applied to upper chest.
A314 - 4 drops spread between wrists, behind ears and spread down neck.
Raw Power - 3 drops, 1 on chest and 1 below each ear and spread along jawline.
Instant Shine 2X - 3 sprays to chest and neck.
Instant Honesty 2X - 3 sprays, 1 to upper chest and 1 on each side of neck.
TAL - 3 sprays: 15mcg’s total, sprayed to back of each hand and back of neck.
TAC - 1 spray: 10 mcg’s, applied to hair in back, below hat line.
Cover Scent - Pheros by Dr. Smell This

I had just received the EOW Saturday, along with the Pheros by Dr. Smell This and another bottle of Liquid Trust.

I opened the EOW and smelled it, because I wanted to see if it really smelled as badly as everyone has said. In the bottle the smell wasn’t really all that strong or bad at all. BUT, once I applied a drop to my chest, it was like the Genie was let out of the bottle and the funk enveloped me. This stuff, more so than any other phero needs to be covered!

Anyway, at the club I didn’t get the dance requests that I had on Thursday night, but I met a number of women, got plenty of attention, and had several girls wedging themselves between my legs, while sitting in my usual spot.

There were 3 ladies (late 30’s?) that came over and stood right in front of me when the band came on, one of them walks up and puts her hand on my leg and says hi, how are you? I had no clue who she was but say I’m fine how are you. She is one of the girls that wedges herself between my legs and made herself at home. I keep catching her and her friends turning around and looking at me. After the band finished, she turns to say her and her friends are going to walk around for awhile, and she’ll see me later.

Awhile later, there are 3 more really cute girls (mid 20’s) who had been standing about 5 feet in front of me at the stage, and I had been exchanging extended glances and smiles with one of them. When the DJ started his hip-hop set, they were getting up on the sub-woofer box to dance, so I offered to watch their purses and I ended up hanging out with them for quite awhile after the dance set finished. One of the girls had never been to the club before, so they decide to take her over to ride the mechanical bull, and one girl that I had kind of zoned in on and been talking to says they’ll be back in a couple of minutes and asks if I’ll still be here. I tell her that I’ll either be right here, or 5 feet away sitting in my usual spot.

When they come back from riding the bull, I’m sitting in my spot and the girl I was talking to jumps up and sits right next to me. I end up dancing with her and when we came back one of her friends asked me if I would dance with her too. I went and got us each a beer and when I came back she jumped down and thanks me for the beer and says, “I am the best hugger ever, want to see?” Of course I say YEAH, and she throws her arms around me, nuzzles her head into my neck…then wraps her legs around my waist and hangs there.

When they were getting ready to leave, she tells me not to go anywhere and she’ll be right back. She comes back less than a minute later and says “let me see your arm”. I’m a little thrown off by this, but I put my arm out. She takes my arm, pulls my shirt sleeve up and writes her phone number on my arm, telling me to call her.

There were other IOI’s I noticed throughout the night, including one couple who stood right next to me, and I kept noticing the girl looking at me and everytime the guy would put his arms around her, she would look straight at me and hold eye contact.

My observations: very similar to the mix from Thursday night, but pushing the sexual tension even further. Younger girls seemed especially receptive. The impact on older women did not seem to be as great, with the exception of 2 ladies I already knew and believe to be quite promiscuous anyway, and they both made it pretty obvious that they were interested and available.