So many tests So little time - My journal

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This is also posted in the “Copulines in men” thread in the womens forum.

I tried cops out at Walmart today. I applied 2 drops, one to my upper chest and another to the back of my neck. Then thinking I needed to add something masculine, I sprayed 2 sprays of Androstenone behind my ears (20 mcg’s total). I then allowed about a 10 minute dry down and covered with Pheros by Dr. Smell This.

And, off I go to Walmart to do a bit of grocery shopping, thinking it’s going to be fun looking for reactions.

THIS DIDN"T WORK! :frowning:

I basically felt invisible! I didn’t notice a single IOI. I think one women (probably late 30’s to early 40’s) gave me somewhat of a funny look, but other than that I was lucky if I got even a passing glance from anybody else, and I placed myself in close proximity to several women while strolling through the aisles.

I will probably give it one more shot, but another time out like today and I’ll reserve the cops for testing in conjunction with other products, and probably only in the nightclub environment.

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I really like the idea of copulines for men, i’m going to jump over and read that thread now.

About the IOI’s…If they aren’t paying attention to your cops, I suggest boldly putting your arm around their shoulder and say “Hey, I’m thinking of adding you to my harem!” Close your eyes, count to five, and then say “Cooooooooooooooool.” with a huge smile on your face.

Let me know how it works for you!

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Another Thursday Red River night wearing ICM 0.25.1a mix with 2 additional pheros still being tested. But I don’t have a lot to report, because the weather was bad and not a lot of ladies came out.

When I first got there and took up my usual spot, there were 2 girls who were walking by me and I caught definite eye contact with one of them. As she passed by she kept her head turned to me and waved. At that point I wasn’t really sure if she was someone I knew or not, but I waved back. They were now well past me and she waves for me to come with them. I’m thinking why not and get up and start to walk toward them, but instead of them waiting for me to catch up they keep walking and I decide that I ain’t gonna follow them around the club like a lost puppy, so I go back to my spot. I figured that I’d probably see her again anyway, but never did.

There was also a lady who came over and sat with me who I really do not like and have tried to make it clear that I am not interested. I have known her for awhile and she is neither interesting nor attractive. She came over and sat right next to me, as she does all to often, except last night she literally wedged herself right up against me, then when I slid over to put some space between us, she slid over too and pressed herself up against me again. Usually when she sits next to me and I move over to put some space between us, she takes the hint. I’ve actually been pretty mean to her, hoping she would take the hint, but she just never does. I guess that’s another reason I’m not interested in her: she is either to dense to take a hint, or just dumb.

Throughout the night it never picked up, and I didn’t really get a chance to meet, talk to or see any sort of IOI’s from anybody. It’s now around 1:30 AM, or what I like to call desperation Hour: That time of the night when all the young guys who had been striking out all night are frantically searching for someone to go home and have sex with.

I watch this idiot make a play at a girl and watch her shoot him down. After he walked away feeling dejected and realizing that he ain’t getting laid tonight, I walked over to her and say, Oh come on smile, you’ve got to at least give the guy an A for effort. That does get a smile out of her and we start talking. She is at the club with a friend and introduces me to her, then asks me if I want to dance. We dance a couple of songs, and are pressed up against each other pretty tightly and getting along quite well, so as we are walking off the dance floor I tell her that I’m going to give her my number and would love to hear from her. We talk for another minute or 2, then the lights come on and it’s time to leave. As they are getting up to go, she leans over and pecks me on the cheek and says she’ll call me. I take that as my cue and also get up to leave, giving the girls kind of a group hug, then heading for the door.

All in all, it was a slow night and although I didn’t have near the usual results or number of girls there to judge my phero impact on. I turned out to be a decent night, and I think my signature definitely helped with the girls I met at the end of the night. Saturday night should be much better and I’m plan on testing with the same mix.

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at least you salvaged the night! Go MID! =D

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Yep. Gotta love desperation hour! Seems I can always meet a pretty girl, after she’s shot down some poor sucker!

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just cause someone else failed doesn’t mean you can’t succeed. xD

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I actually find that one of the easiest times to meet women. It’s usually good for a laugh at the poor dudes expense, but all is fair in love and war right?

Try it sometime. After a girl has just shot down some guy, go over and make them laugh. It’s priceless. And, they are usually more receptive and wanting something to smile over than they would have been 5 minutes earler.

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Yesterday I did my usual Friday happy hour at Hooters, then getting home around 8:00 and planning to just stay in and relax, I get a call from a friend, who I had not seen in about 7 or 8 months, telling me her and a friend were going to Red River and asking if I was going. So much for my quiet evening at home.

2 applications applied. The first application before going to Hooters and applied at about 4:15 consisted of:

Alpha Androstenol: 30 mcg’s
Beta Androstenol: 25 mcg’s
Raw Power: 3 drops
A314: 4 drops
Cops: 3 drops
Instant Female Magic: 3 sprays
TAA: 30 mcg’s
TAC: 30 mcg’s
TAF: 14 mcg’s
TAK: 36 mcg’s
TAL: 15 mcg’s
P74: 20 mcg’s

Locations applied: upper chest, lower chest, back of neck, behind ears, cheeks, wrists, sides of neck, front of neck, hair. I did not keep track of where each compound was applied, but wish I had, because later on when I decided to go to Red River and would be wearing my cowboy hat, I would be blocking a number of the pheros from being able to properly diffuse.

I think I had sprayed at least the Nols, Instant Female Magic, TAA, and TAL to the hair, but am not 100% on this.

Results: Not good. I only had one of the Hooters girls spend more than a minute talking to me and the waitress pretty much avoided me. The friend I was there with was much less talkative, which was a decent side benefit though because he can ramble on-and-on, and he did not stick around very long. One of the girls came over to ask if she could have a cigarette, and really migrated over to him, basically ignoring me.

OD? Confusing phero signature? Yeah, that would be a definite yes.

Now for the second application before going to Red River, and applied around 9:15 and with substantially better results.

I knew that my None levels were still going to be high, but applied just a bit more anyway. The socials I figured I’d be OK with re-applying, especially knowing that at least some from my previous application wouldn’t be able to diffuse due to wearing my hat, and it had been over 4 hours since the previous application too.

Alpha Androstenol: 25 mcg’s
Beta Androstenol: 30 mcg’s
Androstenone: 10 mcg’s
A314: 2 drops
TAA: 30 mcg’s
P74: 20 mcg’s
TAF: 7 mcg’s
TAK: 18 mcg’s

When I got there the girl I knew, and who had called inviting me to meet her was already there and with her friend. Now, I knew that she was bi-sexual, but the girl she’s with is a total butch and did not seem to like me around. As the evening progressed she did seem to relax a little, but she kept on trying to make it very clear that they were together, and never seemed to stop seeing me as a threat.

Another girl I knew showed up and I introduced her to my friend and the butch lesbian, and she started talking to my friend. The butch chick REALLY didn’t like that and I think the other girl realized that if she didn’t leave things might have gotten ugly. So off she goes and I don’t see her again till my friend and her overly protective girlfriend leave.

They ended up leaving after only a couple of hours, which was just fine with me. It was great seeing her after so long, but not with the butch Dyke who pretty well ruined the atmosphere.

Another girl comes over who I have mentioned in previous posts. She is one of the 40 something year olds that would come over and lean up against me. She walks over and gives me a HUGE hug, then doesn’t want to let go. She was with a couple of other girls I knew too, and after the extended hug, went back over by them, then kept looking over at me and would come back over by me and hang aound for awhile throughout the night.

Another girl I knew was there with 2 of her friends. She comes over and gives me a hug, then the 3 of them hang out right in front of me. At one point one of her frinds turns around and pulls me down from where I’m sitting and starts dancing with me. After about 2 minutes the second friend pulls me away from her and she starts dancing with me. As we’re dancing she tells me that the guy standing next to the girl I was daning with is the her boyfriend and he looked like he was getting mad. I say that I didn’t ask her and that she pulled me down, and about that time the first girls pulls me away again and it’s back to dancing with the first girl.

After that, I jumped back up and sat in my spot, and the second girl comes over and jumps up to sit next to me. We get to talking and it turns out that her roommate is my friends boyfriend, and he had been trying to get her to go to Red River for awhile, but this was her only her second time there. We end up talking for quite awhile, then her friends wanted to go find their boyfriends and as she’s leaving with them, she asks if I will be there again tomorrow. I tell her that I usually don’t come on Fridays, but that I’m there every Thursday and Saturday. She says, OK I’ll probably see you tomorrow then, and they take off.

There were several other girls that were definitely giving off IOI’s, looking at me a lot and smiling. I talked to a couple of other girls throughout the night and none of them acted at all disinterested in me. Kind of unusual, and I’m used to having at least one girl a night acting bitchy.

Overall, the second application got excellent results. I need to try to figure out what carried over and was still diffusing form the initial application and duplicate it. That’ll be pretty hard to do though, as not only was there the 4 hours between applications, but also pheros that probably weren’t diffusing properly because of wearing the hat. I give it a shot though and see if I can’t come up with something close.

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thats a gang of pheros. I think my body would explode out of confusion.

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It is, but now think of them in context and you’ll start to get an idea of why I picked them and how they should have worked together. They didn’t, but that’s half the fun in it.

And remember, A314 consists of 16 pheros.

I wore the SteveO sex mix again tonight with the 2 added compounds and it worked extremely well, but on the wrong women and I will not duplicate that mix again. I am far to tired to write about it tonight though, but will tomorrow. I might even end up posting as a new thread. It’s 3:15 AM now though and I’m going to sleep.

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Saturday night at Cowboys Red River again, wearing 5 sprays of ICM 0.25.1a mix with 2 drops of copulins and 2 additional pheros.

My mix now contains per spray, 5 mcg’s None, TAC and BetaNol, 4 mcg’s of TAA and P74 and 2.5 mcg’s of P93. Plus I added 2 drops of copulins and the 2 extra pheromones still being tested.

I will definitely not wear this mix again, at least not with cops and the 2 added pheros at the levels I tested with. I will say that I felt like a definite chick magnet and got attention and IOI’s from 6 different women…BUT, they were ALL in their late 40’s to mid 50’s.

I do not date, dance with, or pay attention to anyone over 35 years old in that club. That may sound rude or harsh, but most every one of the women over 35 years old there will ditch you for the first 20 something year old guy that smiles at them.

For any ladies that happen to read this, please understand that I am not saying that all or even most women are like this. But at this nightclub, it does tend to be the rule.

I figure FUCK THEM! I’m not going to show an interest in a 50 year old woman, knowing that she’s going to blow me off for the first kid that comes along.

Even last night, 2 of the women that were falling over me when I first got there had hooked up with young guys before midnight. One of them is the same girl that has hit on me a number of times, and does so every night, until some horny 20 or 30 something year old comes along and smiles at her.

There had been many times when I would be talking to a woman close to my age, and after just leaving for a minute to use the restroom or get a beer, I come back and she’d be talking to some young kid, and I’d get blown off.

Funny thing is I can watch these same women getting all pissy when I’m talking to a young girl, but an hour later they’ve got their tongue stuck down some 20 year old guys throat, and everything’s fine.

There was one women, easily in her 50’s that came over and stood next to me, and was intentionally brushing up against me, looking and smiling at me. I guess she had been there with a couple more women around her age that were on the back side of the sub-woofer box from where I was sitting, and the women behind me leaned across and poked me in the back several times, pointing at her and telling me to go for it. ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Anyway, after a while the 50+ year old woman goes back to her friends and I’m talking to a girl, probably in her mid 20’s. I start hearing the bitches behind me making snide comments about cradle robbing and not being able to handle a real woman. An hour or so later, there’s a couple of young drunk guys talking to them and that’s perfectly OK.

So, I’ve got out my ranting, and have at least explained why I’m always talking about younger women, instead of women my age. There is another club that I’ve gone to, where the women my age are not out looking to hook up with kids, but I like Red River and that’s pretty much the only nightclub I go to.

On a side note, most of these older women are pretty trailer trashy anyway and only started coming to the club about 6 months ago when the club brought in the singer from another club, and the women followed him over. I’m hoping they’ll replace this singer soon, and the women will go away.

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Interesting Mark.
I wonder if the psychology of -none is the cause of that behavior, because 20 something is the age when males make the most.

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I don’t think so. I usually wear around 25 mcg’s of None myself. I believe that it’s more of an ego thing for them.

What’s funny is that you would almost expect that type of behavior from the younger girls, but I have rarely, if ever, had a younger girl blow me off because some guy their own age came over or smiled at them.

Oh, and a last note, these same women that hit on me, then find themselves a boytoy, will end up trying to hit on me again at the end of the night if they didn’t hook up. That pisses me off even more. It’s like, well I was interested in you until I found somebody better, but since they left I guess I’ll settle for you. NOT A FUCKING CHANCE!!!

Excuse my language, but these type of women just really irritate the hell out of me.

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Day: Tuesday
Place: Hooters for Happy hour

Pheros:

Ammo - 4 sprays
A314 - 4 drops
Instant Shine 2X - 3 sprays

Yep, Decided to go back to the basics for a day or two, after talking to SteveO the other day and hearing that he wore Ammo only to the Hard Rock Cafe, and walked away with phone numbers from several girls that should have been pretty damn hard to number close.

I get to Hooters and sit in my favorite waitresses section (The one that sat and talked with me for like 2 hours a week or so last time I saw her) and when she sees me she comes over and gives me a hug and sits down. Once again, she spends basically all her free time with me. She has a boyfriend, but I notice several, although probably unconscious, IOI’s: Playing with hair, chest pressed forward, acting a bit antsy.

A couple of the girls that work there but have never acted anything other than completely indifferent toward me, were actually smiling at me and even saying hello and making small talk as they would pass by. I also notice that they seem to be walking with a bit more of a wiggle than normal.

There was a girl who had come in by herself, not looking terribly thrilled at being there and was obviously waiting for someone. I walked past her to use the restroom and paused by her table for a second to make a humerus comment, but she barely paid attention, so I didn’t bother to try and talk further. A little later some guy shows up and sits with her, then leaves after awhile. When my waitress got up to go check on her tables, I decided to give it another shot since she was by herself again and walk back over to her. This time she was a bit more friendly but still not overly so.

It goes back and forth like this a couple of times, me going over and talking to her, then leaving. She’s being kind of flirtatious, but also kind of acting standoffish and playing games. She made a comment that was somewhat open to interpretation, and when I called her on it, she says that she’ll tell me another time. She would talk to me for a couple of minutes, then get a text message or phone call and become preoccupied with it, so I’d leave her to her cell and go back to my table.

At one point, the guy at the table in front of her decides he’s going to make a play for her. He gets up and moves over and sits at her table. I can see from the expression on her face that she didn’t see that as the coolest thing to do, and within about 5 minutes chases him off. He moves back to his table, downs his beer and pays his tab then leaves. I go back to her table again and cracked a joke about it. She says that he told her he felt privileged because had gotten further than I did. The says she told him that he was wrong and asked him to leave. Too funny! Then I give her my business card and tell her that she should call me. She looks at me and says “Why should I call you” I tell her because she seems like she’d be really cool to get to know, and besides she’s got to explain the comment from earlier. That gets a smile and she says “OK I will” then picks up her purse and puts my card in her wallet.

The conversation was becoming rather sexual, but she’s making it teasingly so by saying things like she’s just there to get laid, then making it clear that nothing going to happen cause she has another friend on the way who’s on the way to meet her. I’m playing along, but still haven’t really figured this girl out, even after having talked to her for a good half hour or so. But yeah, I’m having fun with it anyway.

At one point when I’d gone back to my table another guy goes over and makes a play for her, but she quickly chases him off too.

Well finally 2 girls walk up and she says, see, I told you my friend was coming. And this is actually funny as hell, but they turn out to be the 2 girls I met and danced with at the end of the night last Thursday at Red River. She seems rather surprised that I know her friends, and after talking for just a minute or so they decide to leave. I had given one of the other girls my phone number last week but never heard from her, and I really don’t expect that this girl will call either. But, all in all it was a fun evening.

I was actually pretty surprised with this combo because it got a couple of the girls to take notice of me and at least act friendly, who had never done so before, even though I’d worn mixes that work extremely well in nightclubs.

I may even go back to the basics again this Thursday and wear my Ammo, Turn Up The Heat, Instant Shine, Instant Female Magic mix once again. Then again, I just may concoct something totally new up too.

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Ok, three days of testing to report, but I’ll keep it pretty short.

Day: Thursday night
Place: Red River.

I went with Tuesdays Ammo, A314, Instant Shine mix, but added 3 sprays Instant Female Magic and 2 sprays Instant Openness 2X.

Results were surprising not as good as I remembered and anticipated. I noticed a few minor IOI’s but nothing like I get with the 0.25.1a mix. It’s a good thing I’d put some 0.25.1a into a togo bottle and mixed with Pheros cologne in about a 4:1 ratio.

Around midnight I start thinking it’s time to ramp things up a bit, so I dig out the to-go bottle and spray myself with 3 sprays.

A few minutes later I’m walking to the beer tub and I see a pretty hispanic girl standing by herself. I stop to tell her to smile, get the smile, then tell her it brightens her face up and she should to to keep it and I walk away. I get my beer and go back to my spot, and she walks over and jumps up beside me. We get to talking…and you can read how the rest of the night went here: Pics for SteveO, and the social proofing concept

Day: Friday
Place: Hooters happy hour

Again I decided to wear the mix from Tuesday, this time adding 30 mcg’s of Betanol.

Another great evening, with waitresses being really friendly, and my waitresee being one that I knew but that had not had my table before. It just happened to be Vegas Girls dress up night, and all the girls wore REALLY skimpy outfits, and they seemed to be quite flirtatious. My waitress spent a lot of time at my table, more so than any other, even though the restaurant was crowded and she had people at every table. She told me about some new nightclub she goes to on Wednesday nights and told me I should come sometime.

Day: Saturday
Place: Red River

Well, I decided to go back to the 0.25.1a mix, with the 2 additional pheros, but NO cops.

This time I did not get hit on by older woman as I had the times before when I added cops, so I think I’m gonna create a new mix with cops and call it IOFM - Instant Older Femal Magic.

It was kind a weird night though, in that there were not a lot of younger women there, and of the ones that were, I knew most of them. Ended up kind of having a picture taking session.

I did meet one girl, who seemed somewhat interested, then when I introduced her to one of the girls I knew, she promptly started hitting on her.

I think part of the reason it could have been an off night is that there was a Jimmy Buffet concert in town that night (yeah he’s still popular among country music fans), and next week there is a Steve Wariner concert at Red River (another popular country musician), and the club can be slow when there are events in town, such as: concerts, NASCAR, sports games, etc., and right before concerts at Red River.

Anyway, as to results, I am finding that the Ammo mix works better than the 0.25.1a mix at Hooters, while the 0.25.1a mix blows Ammo away at Red River.

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Zeph posed this question, and while I was waiting for him to post it in the thread, I figured I’d just go ahead and answer it, then if he posts I can delete this and repost as an answer:

I think the reason that the Ammo mix works better than the 0.25.1a mix at Hooteres, and it’s the opposite at Red River is that the Ammo mix is less sexual, and the Hooters girls are not there looking to hook up. While at Red River, I think there are lots of women looking to meet and hookup and the more sexual 0.25.1a mix hits harder.

Zeph, that was a good question, and got me to thinking a bit about it. I owe you some reps when I find a post of yours.

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oh, it just seemed like such a short question that I thought it would be a waste to post. It just seemed like Red River was more of a club/bar and well hooters… not so much so. I’m amazed that if Red River is indeed a club, that you get great hits with 3 sprays of the ICM mix. Especially with the dense kinda air in clubs. Must be powerful stuff. Makes me scared. xD :open_mouth:

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Nope, I wear 5 sprays, giving a None concentration of 25 mcg’s, and the rest are easy to figure from there.

Thursday I only applied 3 sprays at midnight though, cause I’d already applied the Ammo mix at around 8:45.

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Nothing can describe how good your post mark. One word>awesome :smiley: Rep point for you! Man you deserved it :slight_smile:

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Thanks PhatSounds! :slight_smile: