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I really dont see how having a goodbye thread is ugly or negative. I never said one negative thing in it. Its ok though I agree let the forum get back to testing and normal activity. I said my goodbye and those who wanted to say goodbye to me did. I deleted the post, I just didnt feel I could go without saying goodbye.

I really cant function here. Seems I am the only one that cant have a opinion and when I do I am told I am negative which is the farthest thing from the truth there is. Hell according to a blog I read I may even be evil and should slither away on my belly. Who knew LOL OH well.

Tisha

nothing there is ugly or negative.
at all.

who said that it was?

certainly not me,
i made it a point to post about you staying on in that thread!
:slight_smile: remember?

everyone can have an opinion and i dont think you are being singled out for anything in particular
except for all the positive remarks on this board.
they far outweigh the negative.

but it doesnt seem you acknowledge that.

they love you, only they cant say it enough.

one bad shouldnt cancel-out a million good.
its all mostly good.

I’m not sure goodbye is all that ugly, either. Everyone needs a break. Most people leave one another or one group every now and then. Some breaks are temporarily, some are long term. Sometimes people just need to unplug even from the best situations, not just the worst. Even daily unplugs, have this sort of miraculous effect on the mind. That’s why some folks have some of the best ideas in the shower.

I like all of your well considered feedback. I haven’t seen all of your posts, but it certainly seems you are trying to be constructive. I know you were especially constructive with Jasmin, where it seems your true intent is clear. She’s said you’ve been nothing less than wonderful. Very helpful. Thank you, Tisha!

I’m having trouble with a lot of these posts (not just from you, mind you) being vague, and assuming too much pre-knowledge. I think too much while I read to read everything (i.e., I read kinda slowly), so if you could, please be specific. Which blog post is this?

PM inbound, MHarris.

-For me it in the car or on a smoke break…
-Bee

Hi Diamond.

I’m back from surgery - a little sore, but doing okay. I just wanted to say, I’m sorry to hear about your wife. I hadn’t heard. I hope you are doing okay.

And then I want to add - I’ve never hidden the fact that I am testing pheromones from my husband. He has known from the first. I never tell him exactly what I’m wearing or when I am pheromone free (so as to not influence the testing), but he knows I wear them. He always responds to them when I wear them, as you can tell from my reports. That hasn’t changed at. He is a responder.

Opinions are valid, as is every single experience, but one point does not a trend make. And other factors have to be ruled out before you can certainly say that one thing or another is the reason why something happens.

That is why repeat testing is always important. And why controlling as much as possible for other factors is important. And why every supposition, even those based on “common knowledge” needs to be put to the test.

Diane

You know, on this note Diane, is there a placebo niroli scented cologne available? The wife knows I’m wearing pheros when she smells niroli…

-Bee

The best way to find that out would be to contact the Smartmones store through their system.

Ok everyone:

So we can actually put an end to any negativity… let’s just get the remainder of it out. Let me re-animate a concept we tried years back, near the beginning of the forum. ('05?)

A few months after the forum began, I placed a post in the Store forum that asked the simple question “What are we doing wrong?”

For reasons I still don’t fully understand in my way of thinking, this incited massive amounts of controversy. A wonderful user at the name who went by the moniker Rbt was especially adamant about how wrong it is to ask what are we doing wrong, if we weren’t – to our knowledge – actually doing anything wrong. He was just trying to be helpful, but boy, were people fumed at us to ask this when things were right. It was so surprising, that the experience really left an impression on my memory cells.

The intention of that post was to pre-emptively discover any little things we were doing wrong early, so these things didn’t ignite into a fire later on. I wanted to be pre-emptively good, basically. It was also intended to achieve something I really love doing – making the GOOD, even BETTER. Sort of like waxing a really nice car, upgrading your lightbulbs to something more healthy & full spectrum, or being especially nice to someone you already love.

Sure, I guess this sort of pre-emptiveness might sound crazy to some, but if you think about it it’s the exact thing you’re taught in popular organizations such as the Boy Scouts. I grew up rather poor, so I didn’t have never had enough money at that time in my life to make it all the way to Eagle Scout, but I still admire and try to live their modus operandi to “Be prepared!” To pre-emptively anticipate and solve any possible problems, and to to be on the case fixing them as soon as they do occur. To understand that Murphy’s law is merely a warning that allows you to be a more effective person or organization, and not a fate to which you are doomed.

Anyway, now that there actually ARE problems it would seem, I figure this might be a great time to ask once more:

“What are we doing wrong?”

Unlike last time, I won’t ask you to air anything publicly (I think that was ultimately Rbt’s point – that I shouldn’t have asked for people to respond to the thread itself). Just give me a quick pm. Nothing fancy. In fact, the more to the point and factual (with actual examples, quotes, links, etc. – concrete things) the better.

Doesn’t matter who’s involved in something, Jasmin (and yes, please mention anything you might’ve said to Jasmin on the recent calls since she’s sometimes too positive to remember to tell me certain things), Steve, Amy, Jacob, whomever. I realize that each person has their own strengths and weaknesses, and accurately identifying those lets us all work better.

Even if you have complaints about me, that’s fine. I’m a big boy, I can take it! I expect everyone here to be able to take it, too.

We all live a limited amount of time, I understand that accurate feedback truly is a growth opportunity. This is not just psychobabble. Truly good, well intended feedback is something that does allow you to be all that you can be, in the limited time you are here on this planet. Constructive criticism allows us to be helpful mirrors for one another, so we can make life better for everyone, as quickly and efficiently as possible.

So, if you would be so kind, just let me know anything we’ve done wrong from now since the last time we asked. Recent tends to be better, but there could still be things from the past that are relevent. I tend to stay more on the invention side of things, and honestly, my work requires a certain degree of detachment from the day to day, or there’d never be any progress. The downside is that there may be certain things I’m not even aware of. Having read this post, I think there may be certain issues or actions that would valuable to be made aware of.

Whether it’s behavior or activities that don’t gel well with our culture or standards (I hope you guys can understand what my standards are from my posts through the years – something of a cross between Ayn Rand, Richard Feynman, “Trader Joe”, Joe Sugarman, Thomas Edison, Thomas Payne, Google and Apple, all mixed up then topped with a dash of maybe Richard Bach), or even just the type of bubble wrap we use, I’m ready to tackle just about any problem you throw at me.

As sure as I can drive from New York to Detroit in one fell swoop, in one piece, I can take us from nearly anywhere now to anywhere else. I’ve just got to know where we are now and perhaps some of where we’ve been that I might not have noticed. :wink:

As the song goes, if you would be so kind, let me know what condition our condition is in.

Thanks, guys. I appreciate your help! :slight_smile:

Yes! Actually there is. You can buy neroli essential oil from any place that sells incense or lotion supplies. Just plug essential oil into google and you’ll find a ton of places you can buy neroli.

All my pheromones are unscented because I have an asthmatic reaction to neroli, but I wear my cover fragrance all the time whether I’m wearing pheromones or not.

Diane

I’ll work on this - short and sweet. :stuck_out_tongue:

Diane

For an actual split test that reduces variables and maximizes constants, I’d use the same exact one we use. We don’t have anything like that in our cart, but we can definitely provide that if you call in. (and heck, the more I think about it, the more we should add it to the art, as well)

Also, Diane, so wow… you’ve tried both EO Neroli and our own, same reaction?

Yes. It is neroli itself that I’m allergic to. Most flower and bloom based essential oils and most colognes and perfumes that contain floral notes give me horrendous asthma attacks.

Diane

How do you do that?

Reading you is like seeing in the dark. In order to see something clearly in the dark, one should never look directly at it.

You somehow hit the target without seeming to aim at it.

The chuckles are a bonus. Or is the image of dead birds raining out of the sky not really all that funny? (Admit it. You laughed when you read it the first time.)

OoohYahhh

Just like to mention, that you can order neroli scented, light or cologne-strength, perfumers alcohol in the SmartMones store in the Mixing Supplies section. In the 30ml bottles.

This makes me chuckle… I’m not unemotional. I just don’t flame out.

Beakers and labcoats… heh… I wish it were just that simple. I’ve learned a lot in this endeavor, I’m still learning, still researching, still developing, still stretching my mind to encompass as much real information that I can, to formulate a better picture of what is actually needed in this, and to produce something better.

I won’t base what I’m doing on what some other company has formulated. My whole initial premise was that copulins, as produced by women, are unique to women in their ratios, in their cycle dependent consistency, in their concentration. And unlike pheromone molecules, concentration does matter very much, because these elements, the fatty acids, smell so very different depending on how much is there, and their ratios one to another. More is definitely not better, and there is a fine range of what smells good and what is horrendously gag inducing with regard to these elements.

And others are working on analogs, working towards replicating the smells without resorting to what I’m doing (which is very much dependent on initial conditions). More power to them and I hope everyone working on this does well.

But my project is attempting to recreate 100% natural copulins - to replicate what is produced naturally in women, to smell like clean, healthy, sexy women. Natural women’s smell is like a slice of heaven, and I don’t think we should have to put on something that makes us smell like an unwashed ass, or a cheese factory, or puke, or dog shit, or any of the other formulations that we’ve been asked to “work with.”

We deserve better.

Diane

SQUEAL

this THIS is what i want to give energy to !!!

That’s where you are wrong. Actually, you’ve been wrong on a lot of things, but we’re human, it happens.

We are spending Our money to buy these consumer products. And we are using our energy to test something we have been assured will work. In a way we are apart of the company because we are testing and reporting for their benefit. I spend my hard earned money to buy products that have been guaranteed to me to work. I haven’t had a problem with a consumer product yet, but if there is a problem than Androtics needs to fix it if they want to keep their reputation (and their customers).

Much love to Androtics. I love your stuff. Please don’t let me down.

Wow, you are a little late to this party, aren’t you?

It is resolved. Get over it.

Diane

Don’t take your anger out on me.

I’m simply stating the obvious.