The best mones to pick for guys who want to remain a challenge?

Estratetraenol, also known as estra-1,3,5(10),16-tetraen-3-ol, is a chemical compound produced by women

1 that has been described as having pheromone like activities in primates,

2 including humans.

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6 It is derivative of the

sex hormone

estradiol , an

estrogen, yet has no known estrogenic effects.

Yeah, I am familiar with that much, shark :smiley: but I want to know what its place is in Evolve, what does it do, what is its side effects, that sort of thing

Hahaha Yea, OK I posted it as smart ass response. I honestly have no idea what it is or how it reacts in mixes, but the more I read the more I’m intrigued.

It’s a pheromone pregnant women release, which has a calming effect. It’s place in Evolve my guess is that you’re easier to be approached.

There are two types:
Plain Est., which is almost perfectly safe to wear, see steve-o’s quote below

Then there is Meo Est, which I think True Pheromones uses in one of its mixes, but is deemed dangerous to wear

From Steve-O himself on plain Est.:

Okay, so is this MEO EST that I’m putting on my skin here, or plain EST?

I asked Steve about Estradiol and if you look at his FORUM on PheromonesXS website you’ll see he claims that no dangerous compounds or side effects can come from it.. He has already made the CLAIM in his response to his clientelle. Furthermore, he says it is supplied in such small amounts that it is virtually negligible and cannot cross the blood brain barrier.

SEE HIS RESPONSE ON HIS FORUM.

Steve uses the regular Est. in his Evolve.

Also looked at True Pheormones, it is their True Love bonding mix that contains Meo-Est

Meo is probably a heck more potent than plain Est, but is probably riskier to wear to your health (as a man).

After reading through this thread several times and going back to the main question: “What are the best mones for men who want to remain a CHALLENGE”, I have come to the assumption that the aggressive mones like p75 and a314 are not that appropriate.

For example, if a beautiful woman has been chasing you for 9 months and you have ignored her, or simply chit chatted with her but never even so much as come on to her or asked for her # and you suddenly, go on the offensive like a dobermann who hasn’t eaten in 3 days, what do you think her reaction would be? Of course! You’d drive her the hell away.

This is why I think evolve works so beautifully although there are others that are good too – it allows you to remain stealth, not coming on to a woman, just socializing, and then bang her hormones hit an all time high and she’s ready to basically attack you in the best possible way.

With aggressive signatures like a314, p75, and a host of other hit them over the head products it is fine when you’re the aggressor from the start, but not when you’ve been chased for 9 months and are now awakening and ready to go dating these same women…

Know what I mean?

No, I don’t. If Evolve is unequivocally superior to all blends in our solar system, then further conjecture is purposeless. Unless…your mind holds unstated doubts??? :roll_eyes: In the course of human history, the masculine, confident, powerful male is usually a winner. I see few downsides here.

Some of the molecules in his and other companies’ products are suspected neurosteroids, like THDOC. They are also suspected pheromones. Their mechanism is unknown. They may act by allosteric modulation of neurotransmitters, affecting mood by unknown paths in the central nervous system. Thus, P75, P102, TAF, etc. can cause neurotransmitter depletion, headache, agitation, insomnia, etc. in certain persons. They may alter endocrine feedback loops, shifting homeostatic balance. This is why females are highly prone to eating disorders but men are not. It is wildly more complex than I can begin to state here. The blood-brain barrier isn’t necessarily a factor as much as alteration of CNS function by unknown means. Hormone levels could (it depends) be altered by “pushing” endocrine feedback loops in a certain direction. We can’t cure eating disorders, etc., because we just don’t know how it works.

The prenatal migration of GnRH neurosecretory neurons allow human pheromones to effect GnRH pulsatility, which modulates the concurrent maturation of the neuroendocrine, reproductive, and central nervous systems, thus influencing the development of human reproductive sexual behavior and other behavior.

True if there was one perfect product then that would be all that sell. There are many great products out there. However I just don’t think it’s P75 or A314. I’ve read they are status mones but a bit intimidating, so I opted for P83 and TAC for it’s unique uses.

Well on the estrogen, meat eating probably a much bigger factor long term. All the biomagnification of all the pesticides and herbicides that are dumped on their feed and you can be for sure the vast majority of the animals in the industry aren’t organic fed. Ditto on all the hormones and antibiotics jacked into them. (Back when I was still a meat eater my doctor prescribed eating chicken to clear a bladder infection, not because chicken is innately good for you, but because they’re so jacked up on antibiotics as is).

I intend to check out Est and Meo-est, but plan to spray them on my clothes.

Edit:

As for the main point of this thread, I found Kimba’s MX297+P83+TUTH+IH (b-nol) is a great combo for pulling numbers and setting up future dates with women. It takes a lot of over the top game to pull off.

Info on Est and Meo Est:

http://www.lovepotionperfume.com/reading_room/articles/PheroWiki

Doesn’t that defeat the intent of adding the pheromones? It almost sounds like that mix is playing Against you if you have to rely on superior game to make it work.

What I’m selling at this moment in my life is a hard sell… polyamorous

Only mix so far that makes it easy.