To recap:
You smelled it from the cap.
It wasn’t in contact with skin.
You couldn’t perceive a distinct vinegar or urine odor.
Diluting this to ~ 50 nanograms/spray/mL would give more precision. I don’t know if Androtics has the equipment to make 50 nanograms. It’s an awfully small amount. Even 250 nanograms.
I can only say androsterone should be useful, on the order of 500 nanograms.
ExperiMone?„? AndrosteRONE Spray :: ExperiMone™ Series :: Androtics Direct
Oh Sh’t!
OK. I think you need androsterone. I need to see if my guess is correct about what 1000 nanograms erone and 250 nano. -enone would do.
alright-- alright-- anything for you. Will keep you posted as usual!
(have to say I’m a little disappointed in TAL and p78, you all rave about it. Gotta toy with the dose) hehe. I said toy
P78: What happened to the happy attendings/patients?
TAL: You may be a TAH girl? Do you feel like Marilyn Monroe? MX135 is the Marilyn one. Instant Sexiness A contains TAL.
I don’t know *exactly *what will happen if you wear 250-500 **nanograms **of androsterone. AMMO has 2500 nanograms per spray. Some women’s products do contain androsterone in *undisclosed *amounts.
TAL alone test day 2
7.5 mcg total (2.5 mcg sprays x 2 sprays each wrist, one spray neck Mol L)
Vanilla Dream fragrance
Black work dress
Gave a presentation today that went smoothly. I had a meeting with the President of my program just to discuss some of my personal experiences (my idea). It was supposed to be a friendly conversation about my opinions but also a way to insert some constructive feedback.
My interrupting habit, or specifically, when I finish someone’s sentences, is my worst trait. He did not mind this, he’d repeat whatever words I offered and it would make him smile or laugh.
I was planning on the meeting lasting 15-20 minutes, but we ended up speaking for 2 hours. He’s by far the most important person in the entire clinic and I can’t believe he gave me so much time. I can say whole-heartedly that he genuinely enjoyed the conversation.
So after finishing the points I wanted to make, he tells me that he notices how I have a passion for education, genuine interest in research, and desire to implement the best and most updated health care reform in patient care, and if I have ever thought about considering working in academia instead of private practice. He then proceeds to tell me that the biggest problem in medical universities is finding adequate faculty that encompass all these traits and since he is now included in the interview process for new potential full-time faculty, he tells me that people like me are hard to come by. He pleads me to consider going into academia after I mention that, yes, I do love teaching, but I am looking into opening a practice soon. He closes by stating that he wonders if I will find complete “satisfaction” with the modality of a private practice.
HOLD ON A MINUTE. IS THE PRESIDENT PERSONALLY TELLING ME THAT HE WOULD LIKE ME TO BE A FULL-TIME FACULTY AT THIS UNIVERSITY SOME DAY?!?!?!?!
**-----
**Monesmademedoit: p78= yes the happy patients were a selling point, but let’s be real- I care about my patients, but I don’t care THAT much. As long as I do a great job, they can take what they will from that experience.
I don’t know if I’m a Marilyn? I like MX 135 and Is/A. I think I like MX274 more.
That’s a good TAL response. 22.5 mcg.
OOPs!
I guess I was PMSing last week when I had the cranky experience with p78!
Got super bad cramps yesterday and my least favorite part of the month has arrived 
LIke fucking clockwork- almost exactly 1 week later.
Tried 17.5 mcg TAL today (7x 2.5mcg sprays, wrists, elbows, neck)
Pretty normal day, but I def annoyed one of my attendings. I guess she could have been more upset but she was nice about it. I deserved to get scolded, I took too long with a patient (not 100% my fault). I still feel super guilty awful about it- I feel like I can’t impress the right people enough. It’s disheartening.
One of my female patients snapped at me too! She is def a Type A crazy person, but nothing I did warranted her losing her patience with me.
I’m thinking that men respond to TAL better than women.
I definitely find that my formerly bitchy co-worker doesn’t respond well to me when I wear TAL…but it is a cougar maker with the boys 
I’m developing insights that TAL is a metabolite men and women produce; high androgen females would have this in urine from the testosterone pathway. I hear rumors that huffing androsterone or IG is helpful for PMS?
So TAL is akin to Instant Sexiness A and TAH is Marilyn Monroe, Instant Sexiness B? My head is spinning at trying to keep everything straight…
When the bad days come around, think of moments like these:
“HOLD ON A MINUTE. IS THE PRESIDENT PERSONALLY TELLING ME THAT HE WOULD LIKE ME TO BE A FULL-TIME FACULTY AT THIS UNIVERSITY SOME DAY?!?!?!?!”
That is BIG stuff here’s to hoping that any future interaction with the president goes equally well. Sounds like he thinks highly of you. It’ll be good to have options when you’re ready for the next step in your career.
The enone experiment is amazing. It does seem it’s creating great bonding and sexy time with your boo. Being it’s marketed to the boys, would not have thought it could prove to be so useful to the ladies 
Looking forward to your next post. CONGRATS on the nomination!!!
MX 300 first trial
Before I post, I want to say thank you all for being so supportive and including me in this weird kinda new online family. And Outset- I def needed that reminder that I can’t impress everyone all the time and to concentrate on those that I do.
MX 300 1.5 sprays wrist
Jeans/tank top
Local bar with two close guy friends I’ve known forever (one from out of town)
I’m super slammed with work to do and this was not the ideal weekend to have out of town guests. But I only see my besties once or twice a year if that, so I made an exception and went out for ONE drink last night. (Even the boo knows I can’t play until next weekend)
I’m just with my buddies, so no make up and I’m not wearing my contacts (I can see fine, but can’t make out faces). I kinda like doing this occasionally because it forces me to only pay attention to my immediate table/surroundings without the distractions of looking at other people. So keep that in mind that I won’t be able to comment on whether anyone was checking me out or not.
So before I spray, we are sitting on the couch (they are wasted) drinking beers (they are) and we are making our normal very inappropriate sexual jokes that go on for too long that totally cross all sorts of wrong. And the jokes are really dorky- like Japanime meets ComicCon and Science Fair project in my Dungeons and Dragons party dorky. This is our normal behavior (we are all very nerdy artists and this is part of my crew from college).
On our way to the bar we are sharing funny stories. They get food, I order a pitcher.
Within a few minutes of sitting down (30 min after application), the topic gets more serious and all of a sudden we are all analyzing our future goals, what we want out of a serious relationships, deciding if we think marriage is real, what is true or not true about romantic idealism, what traits we are not willing to budge/compromise on, what mistakes we’ve made in our previous relationships, and if we think the people we are with have potential in any of these categories.
WHOA! Talk about a game changer. Sure, the drunken jokes slipped in as often as possible, but all of us jumped back to the topic at hand right away instead of drunkenly moving on. I swear this was not my doing (yes I love to talk about relationships) but the boys totally brought it up first.
The other observation is I started almost every sentence with “I feel as though…” instead of “I think” or “I wonder” or any other fucking way of saying the same thing. I noticed and TRIED to stop myself but it KEPT happening!! I don’t know why this was so irritating to me, I guess bc I sounded like a fucking broken record.
A lot of what they had to say disheartened me because it is all so predictive of male behavior of their age that I’ve seen almost ACROSS the board with men I’ve dated or know very well (my brothers included).
The Male Semi-Quarter Life Intimacy Crisis:
I live my life almost completely opposite of these fears/behaviors:
Sorry I had to rant about that in case some young male reader can relate (let’s be real, they’re not reading this!)
Monesmademedoit: ok ok ok I’m going to order the erone. But I want to get free shipping so I’m waiting until I decide what else to order! patience child! Also, regarding enone, notice how I’m always even HORNIER after a really hot sex marathon with a really naughty boy? (I get myself off 6-7 x the next day) do you think that’s related to whatever natural mones he’s left on me? Like enone??
Regarding #1 crush:
We’ve been texting a bunch and he’s been extremely supportive of my work/career. We’ve been slipping in some naughty sexual flirtations in there and they are totally getting me worked up! We are going to have an epic weekend next week after I’m done with a bunch of work and neither of us can wait!!! Ugh- Totally fucking want to eat this man alive. sigh
Simply applying male or female sweat to yourself would have some of these effects, as would smelling them. This has been partially shown (smelling the odor from another person when they aren’t there). This alters menstrual synchrony. There’s no urgency to any of this, but, insofar as AMMO uses erone and enone–and you have success with 1/10 the AMMO -enone dose–going the step further seems worthwhile.
The effect is not the same as smelling a guy with AMMO, but women’s products use erone and alpha nol. Few use -enone, since it requires precise equip. to accurately dose 50 nanograms. 50 should be a safe dose for most women. Overall, -enone isn’t a male mone. Women have it. It’s a matter of amounts. By wearing -enone, you are mimicing the healthy alpha female, with a mixture of androgen and estrogen metabolites.
Physiologic levels of prolactin in males enhance luteinizing hormone-receptors in Leydig cells, resulting in testosterone secretion, which leads to spermatogenesis. Prolactin (PRL), also known as luteotropic hormone or luteotropin, is a protein that in humans is best known for its role in enabling female mammals to produce milk…
Prolactin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Secondly, I posted elsewhere some material on tachyphylaxis. I wasn’t sure about this whole “neurotransmitter depletion” business, but it seems plausible. The bigger medical texts are only on the reference shelf at universities (Cecil, Harrison’s). Although Tacitus was famous for megadosing, I think regular use of excessive pheromone is not called for. In the case of A1, it seems implicated in depression. From personal use, I advise against megadose TAF, P75 and the like. They are highly stimulant, as least as much as caffeine. Burnout is rapid and strong.
#1 Crush is getting serious!
Two dates with the #1 crush, one with mones, the other without:
Without:
minimal make up
shorts, tank top, flip flops
already drunk celebrating a small success
I was drinking by myself, getting my hair/nails done, to celebrate when he says he wants to celebrate with me. I wasn’t planning on seeing him, so I warn him that I’m kinda already drunk and do not look cute at all ? I’m not even wearing make up. While waiting for him, my gf texts me that it is a bad idea and I should at least find some lip gloss/mascara at some drug store (LOL). Luckily, I was outside a Sephora and went to town on that bitch.
He notices right away and makes a comment “I was actually looking forward to seeing you in the raw.” We laugh about how it was my gf’s idea if I “ever wanted to see him again.”
It’s been almost 2 months of dating and we only now kiss right when we say hello. I love it.
We walk to the first bar we see and sit down. Neither of us can take our hands off each other. It’s really sexy. I even put on my glasses so he could see what I “normally” look like, and he was ALL about it- didn’t want me to take them off! Anyway, we have a great time sharing stories about our work week. It is really nice getting to vent/share medical stories with someone who can relate but doesn’t know too much so you aren’t worried about saying the “wrong things.” (we are in totally different specialties)
He complains about a new medical resident at his clinic who is sleeping on his couch for a month. I let him know that he is welcome to crash at my house if he ever wants to get away from him for a night and he jokes “moving in huh? Ok kinda fast but I could be down with that” We laugh but this is the THIRD time he has made a joke about living with me.
He finally lets me see HIS place (this whole time we’ve only slept over at mine). I think he was a bit shy/embarrassed bc his place is smaller/messier (people are so conscience about that here). I barely remember it bc we both blacked out by that time. In the morning he wakes me up with the usual cuddling/kissing and I have to leave early for work.
(little did I know, that he kept from me that he had a huge exam to prepare for 2 days later. Because he knew if he told me, I wouldn’t let him come out celebrating with me. He felt it was more important to be with me to make me happy without me feeling guilty about distracting him) GUUUSSSHHHHH!
Date with mones:
1 spray MX 300 wrist
10 mcg p74 (1 spray of 5 mcg on each elbow)
250 ng enone chest
mcg molecule L (7 sprays of 2.5 mcg, around hair, neck line, chest, wherever)
All 6% Neroli except for the mol L which is Vanilla Dream, my new favorite.
Shorts, short tank top, huge necklace, flat sneakers.
semi- huge outdoor music festival.
We were supposed to meet at my house so we could leave a few things at my house (phones!) and we could hide the um.. party favors. Obviously we kiss in the doorway and 5 minutes later of making out the clothes come off. I love how irresistible we find each other!
We both planned on doing mole the whole time and we were really excited to do it together for the first time (not first time experimenting, but just with each other). I personally know how much this party favor makes people open up so I was looking forward to really connecting. I also warn him that I tend to get really sappy with the whole “Thank you for being my friend! I’m so happy you’re in my life” but I promise I will try really hard to keep it cool.
We get to the party, it’s a gorgeous setting, we’re both super happy and it starts to hit us. We dance and dance and dance. He keeps telling me how much fun he is having and how much we both needed this.
While dancing together, this one guy kept circling around us making eyes at me. Finally he walks behind me and grabs my hand, trying to pull me away from my boo. My man takes his cue and holds me closer, mad-dogs the creeper, and we laugh about it. I kinda love that he has had to “claim” me more than once at concerts. It makes me feel like it’s proving to him that I’m desirable and wanted, many guys want me, but I choose him.
A few hours later, it starts winding down for us and we both get mellow FAST, like a light switch on then BAM OFF. So we decide to sit by the skyline under the trees and relax. Here’s where I open up like a fucking drunk hooker on a pool table, except with my heart and my mouth. It pours out of me, story after story, telling him my most personal memories, things that inspire me, what impresses me about him, what I’m scared about the next few years, on and on. Every time I was about to share something else I kinda would stop myself and say “Man! I’m sharing so much, I’ll stop” but he kept insisting that he wanted to hear it. The next day when we were doing a recap on the night, I told him I was embarrassed for sharing so much and he said “Don’t be, I loved hearing your stories but it is going to take me a minute to digest it all”
Compliments from him throughout the night:
“I’m having so much fun with you, it’s almost too much fun because I might want to do this with you all the time”
“You’re so pretty even girls can’t resist you” (a drunk girl kept telling me how pretty I was and how much she wanted to make out with me, too bad she was fugly)
“You’re so popular, you know everyone and they are all so happy to see you” (locals at my neighborhood bar after the event)
“I can tell that you are a strong and fierce woman. I love it”
“It’s rare to meet a girl who is so multi-dimensional. All the girls I’ve met are so plain and boring, all they do is work and go to bars. You are so passionate, you care so much about so many different things. Aaaaaaaaaand you’re really cool and always know what cool things are happening”
“I can see that you would be an awesome nanny/babysitter. You’re a great educator, I’m sure all your kids loved you” (in response to his question, “If money wasn’t an issue, what would you spend your life doing?” I said I’d nanny kids from all over the world so I could experience as many different cultures as possible and make a difference in so many kids lives. He was surprised I didn’t say art so I explained how I never wanted my creativity to be determined by a career, expression had to be completely unaffected by popular opinion, it had to come from within me, and I don’t think you can separate the two when it is your job.
He really wanted to know what my first impression was of him and what about him made me interested. I was honest that I knew I liked him when I told him I was having a bad day, he instantly asked me what was going on, and responded with sincere genuine empathy and tried to make me feel better. I also confessed that I didn’t fully realize the complexity of his character until the 2nd or 3rd date because he did come off as a happy go lucky CA Beach bro. Which he is, but he also has all these other sides to him.
He tells me about this gas leak he had at his clinic and how they all had to evacuate, but he was so disappointed in his colleagues because they left many patients in their exam rooms not assisting them with the evacuation. He was fake hurt that I didn’t read about it in the paper and I wasn’t “worried” about him. It reminded me to tell him to have a “Go bag”, all my friends working on military bases have been drilling into their family’s head how important it is. I asked him what the fuck are we supposed to do because we don’t even have family here. I said how I would run to Central Park and hide because it is big enough to escape most targets (unless it is a target). Then he said “Just keep running- all the way to me.”
UGH! Nothing is sexier than a man wanting to protect his girl.
I pointed out a girl who I thought was “hot” and he disagreed saying she was good looking but not hot. Hot had to be reserved for really high caliber beauty, “you can’t just throw around ‘hot’.” Now I can’t stop thinking about whether he thinks I’m Hot or just kinda good looking!! I’m trying to remember if he ever called me hot and I don’t think he ever has! This is going to drive me crazy!
Out at the bars by my house he tells me how much he loves my neighborhood and how if he had to choose where to live over again he would probably pick an area like mine, but now it is too late to move because he only has 8 more months at this location (me too!).
Something that has been kinda bothering me is that we both have to choose where we are going to spend the next few years in the next few months. Obviously, I’ve been too scared to admit flatly to him that it’s scaring the crap out of me. I just met someone who is perfect for me and we could be separated for years and years. We have loosely asked each other very innocently which programs are offered where and for one of mine he said that they have a program for him there too. That was the first indication that I knew he was stressing about this too. Even though it has always been a casual Q&A. I know he is determined to go back to CA asap, but I don’t think I will have as good of a chance in CA and neither does he. Also, the program in NYC is exponentially better and I already have a good vote from THE PRESIDENT.
This morning while walking the dog and him to the train he confesses that he was originally only going to apply to CA locations but is now considering places in ____ (MY borough!). He says it is just to “be on the safe side.”
I cannot believe that my mission to show him how much fun NYC can be actually worked in such a short time!
Call me crazy, but I totally think he’s applying to spots here because of me.
!!!
PHEW!
I’m going to call that success. How does this -enone alter the mix for you around other males and females? Is 250 nano too high or too low? Is there any aggression?
Well with the above mix, the physical arousal is less intense. By itself it is way stronger. Other than the girl trying to kiss me, and the guy trying to steal me, I didn’t get any other interactions that shocked me. The girls we ran into were really nice to him but not me which is unusual bc I normally get everyone to love me. However, another random girl started talking to us at a bar, but it was like she was trying to talk to him. I think females get confused when they are around me with it on because they may just associate him with it and not me. Also since we boned before going out and pretty much right after I applied (15 minutes after spraying) I’m going to take an educated guess that some of my products got onto him and it messed up our results. Because looking back, some of the women we ran into (particularly bartenders and the like) would focus on him and ignore me. Similarly, my group of friends I ran into, all the guys wanted attention from me but did not try hard enough to include him. The girls in that group treated me the same as always, kind and normal. so I don’t know how to answer your question- as far as I’m experiencing, I’ve really only felt this strong sexual impulse on it which once I had sex kinda subsided. I did get kinda emotional wanting him to be more “into me” while we were rolling but I think I was just being crazy because he’s obviously into me.
The above mix is basically Marilyn Monroe dominatrix. It should pull all kinds of men and women. Some will be put off, some won’t. MX300 and P74 on one side and TAL + -enone on the other.
A search for
Marilyn Monroe dominatrix
gives Lady Gaga. So, yes, that’s that mix. Search Lady Gaga and One Direction images
That’s basically it. The journal says, “Pervert.” So, yeah. That.
LS… when I read your journal posts it’s almost like I’m reading something the younger version of me wrote.
One thing I notice is that it sounds like your guy really admires you. I TOTALLY get the Marilyn Monroe dominatrix analogy monesmadedoit gave. I see it as admiration, but Marilyn Monroe dominatrix really makes the point stick.
Looking at the changes you’ve made and the stories you share, the MX300 and enone seems to be the dominatrix part. That gives me some head swirling ideas for MX300!
LS.. Catching up on this post makes me horny. And happy.
MMDI… 2.5 erone + vanilla + on pillow = calm sweet dreams. p94 too. same dosage..ish…good for PMS fersure
Well thanks a lot LS, GirlFriday, and Jett…now I have to go and order some TAL. Anyone know a good online black leather fetish store?? OMG…too funny.
Seriously though, LS it seems like you are getting that mix dialed in. Also seems like you have a diamond in the rough with this guy. Attractive (I assume or you wouldn’t be with him), caring/sensitive (listens to all your shit good and bad), good earner (or soon will be, a doctor?), a lot in common (work, music, extra curricular’s). Also, you are right, he is def into you. Opening kiss when you greet is a good sign. The fact that he just started doing it when he didnt before, and now he does it all the time, is a sign he is getting comfortable around you. OK, jumping in the sack and bumping uglies when you first see each other is a good sign too. OK its a great sign. OK it doesn’t get much better than that! Yeah he is comfortable..hee hee.
The fact that he “claimed” you at the concert is huge. Now granted, I tend to do that with any woman that I am going out with, as I am a great believer that you “dance with who brung you to the dance”, but not all men will do that. In fact it is some guys shit test for women if you will. They will let their date sort it out themselves and see if they encourage it from the new guy, or if they blow him off and come back to you. That is not my style. I usually just go over to him and “loom” over him (6"6") and most of the time they move along. But be certain, if I am out with a woman, and I am into her, she will know it. Im somewhat possessive of the time we are spending together. Not clingy, but lots of kino. Hold her hand, random pecks on the cheek, etc. This is a good sign that he is interested. He is signalling to everyone around you, (and to you..) that you are with him.
It seems like you are aware of the possible pitfalls, or dangerous terrain ahead. Reading between your lines:
Hey, but no worries. Half the battle is knowing the terrain. Half the fun is successfully navigating said terrain. Sounds like a great guy.