Tonyman's Journal

Thank you very much justintime - appreciate your positive feedback. I’ll continue to experiment with a314. Thanks also for your tips on p96 and a314.

Today:

9am two drops a314 on backs of hands, 4 sprays 2.5mcg p96 on neck, EO spray on neck, beside p96.

Self effects - feeling great fromthe a314 and chilled fromthe p96. Started feeling very tired around 3pm. Added one more spray of p96 then. Didn’t notice a lot of difference.

Working with male client 50s for a couple of hours. Not sure whether mones affected interaction but certainly felt better myself.

Meeting with female client late 40s/early 50s mid afternoon. No noticeable hits, but I was feeling very tired at this point, so that was probably the overriding factor.

A small vial of hedione arrived today around 2pm and I sniffed it a lot. Very subtle aroma. Started feeling tired afterwards, but not sure if there is any connection between the hedione sniffing and the fatigue. Started feeling a little down after 4pm and that remained through to the evening. Strange when I was feeling quite up the rest of the day. Maybe connected to the hedione too. I don’t have any problem with Jasmine EO, so maybe better to stick with that if I’m sensitive to artificial molecules like Hedione. I drank lots of water to avoid neurotransmitter overload, but not sure if it made a lot of difference in my case. It’s as if the mones on my neck somehow tire me out over the course of several hours. Alternatively, it could be from the Jasmine EO I’ve been applying. Jasmine EO is supposed to have “potent sedative effects,” according to one site. I’m going to have to test a314 solo one day, p96 solo another day and Jasmine EO solo another day again.

Edit: Got lots of appreciation from my GF today while wearing the a314 and p96 mix - telling me how great I am, how happy she is that we are together, how good looking I am (I’m not!).

Also discovered that flushing out my sinuses with saline seemed to fix the depression brought on by repeatedly sniffing the Hedione. It’s like the molecules get stuck in your nose until they’re washed out.

Wouldn’t make for a great date though - doing a sinus flush every minutes to counteract the side effects of the seduction scent.

Someone on a different site said Hedione had some effects similar to A1.

I’m wondering why the putatives are numbered the way they are. Like where are p1, p2 and p3? And why was p130 released long before p121?

12pm 1x Ammo (2x) throat, 1x a314 backs of hands.

SELF EFFECTS:

Felt the usual good vibes fromthe 1 drop of a314, as well as having a straighter back when walking in public. Didn’t feel much fromthe Ammo, even though it was applied to my throat. I prefer the self effects of 2 drops a314 and 10mcg of p96 over this mix.

EFFECTS ON OTHERS:

GF was saying how much she appreciates me and how lucky she is to be with me. I went Christmas shopping and got some good service in a few different stores from women of various ages, but didn’t really notice any unusual behavior or obvious IOIs.

EO mix: Made another EO mix based on something mobocaster wrote. Jasmine EO and Oakmoss EO, in a 2:1 ratio in carrier oil, put into a small roll on bottle. Made another version with 100 drops Jasmine and 15 drops Oakmoss, undiluted, but resulting fragrance was much too strong, so had to dilute it down by filling the rest of a 5ml bottle with carrier oil (fractionated coconut oil).

Will be hanging out with a female friend 21 tomorrow evening. Thinking of wearing 1 drop a314, 1 spray Ammo 1x and 10mcg p96 (or maybe 20mcg - not sure). Would be interested to hear anyone’s opinions on that mix.

That mix should be useable. What would you like to see happen? maybe you could tell us more to make sure we can help get you as close as possible to what your goals are.

Either way the P96 is a good choice for A314, and or Ammo. It may be a better option to say go with 2 sprays Ammo over any A314 depending on what you are trying to achieve.

Thanks justintime. The goal was IOIs.

Last night, I had a craving for the smell of a314, so I dabbed just a tiny bit on my neck before going to bed. My girlfriend didn’t say anything about it, so maybe only I could smell it. I ended up having a fantastic night’s sleep, which I can only attribute to the a314.

I think the a314 must have (positively) affected my girlfriend too, because she slept in by about 15 minutes, despite using her alarm.

When I woke up in the morning, I was not only well rested but full of resolve. I realised that there are a couple of recent situations where I had compromised or would compromise, but where I was not happy with the outcome. So I’ve fixed those two situations. One of them was the friend I was supposed to meet up with tonight. She texted saying that something came up and she can’t meet at 8.30pm, it would have to be 6pm. In the past I would have caved and said 6pm would be fine. This time I replied that I was busy at 6pm, so maybe we could find another day that suits us both, but not making any suggestions as to when. a314 seems to remove that anxiety that can make someone cave at the slightest sign of resistance. I haven’t heard back from her yet and I’m completely fine about it, which is a change.

Interesting how big a role anxiety has played in my thoughts & decisions in the past. When you take anxiety out of the equation, you look at things in a different light.

For me, a314 should be renamed “Instant Backbone” because that is what it is helping me with. Being true to my own values and instincts, rather than agreeing with someone else because it is easier. Also makes you stand straighter, so physical backbone too.

It’s also amazing that a314 improved the quality of sleep so much. I’ve been sleeping a little light recently, due to taking the natural supplement Quercetin to help with allergies. With the a314, I slept like a log. Maybe Androtics should be marketing a314 as a sleep aid instead.

Wearing a tiny amount of a314 during the night must have helped reduce anxiety a lot. Idon’tremember any specific dreams. I’ve read that some people experience intense dreams with TAC, but a314 didn’t do anything noticeable. I’ll try it again tonight and see what happens.

I realize I’m going to be putting mones all over the bed linen, but as long as I shower in the morning (& wash the bed linen weekly), that should be fine.

I think I’m addicted to a314, if that’s possible. I know I’m supposed to be testing other mones separately, but it’s hard to move away from something that is so great. When I read other guys talking about how great a314 smelled, I was sceptical. When I first sniffed it, I wasn’t impressed. But the combination of the mones and the EOs creates an overall effect that’s like magic.

Another cool thing about a314 is that it doesn’t cause neurotransmitter overload or exhaustion in me. Ammo doesn’t either, but it doesn’t have the same amazing self effects as a314.

I’ve ordered the Stealth version of a314 . But I’m not sure I want to move away from the regular one. But who knows - the Stealth a314 might work well with whatever EO mix I create. Plus no one can sniff me and say, “Aha, another a314 user!”

I’ve put black gaffer tape around my a314 bottle (and over the base), so if I accidentally drop it on a hard floor, it shouldn’t break. That’s how important it is to me now.

TODAY:

11.30am 2 drops a314 applied below ears, 1.5 sprays of p95 5mcg to throat (first spray was a dud because first use of bottle).

SELF EFFECTS:

Instant sense of calm and ease thanks to the a314. No obvious initial self effects of the p95. After 15 minutes or so, noticed a slight pressure in the temples and side of head, as if a headache was starting. When interacting with others, noticed clear sense of determination, but not sure how much is due to a314 and how much is due to p95. Head pressure from*the p95 still there after several hours. It hasn’t turned into a full blown headache though. I don’t get pressure in my temples from a314, which is why I’m attributing that to the p95 instead. Pressure is reduced by 6pm, though still present.

Extreme hunger only a couple of hours after last meal. Very thirsty too. Seems like p95 increases both hunger and thirst. Maybe not the best mone for anyone trying to lose weight. But maybe good for a guy who wants to bulk up.

Positive benefits of a314 had almost fully worn off by 8pm, which is roughly eight hours of effectiveness.

EFFECTS ON OTHERS:

I made the comment to my GF that “I feel like eating something delicious.” Somehow she took this as a criticism of the dinners she has been cooking for us and was pouting and apologising. I reassured her that I wasn’t criticizing her cooking (which is usually great, anyway). I was just voicing what I felt. Anyway, I was thinking of lunch and I usually make my own lunch myself. The a314 and p95 must have made her feel that she has a responsibility to make delicious meals for me. The whole “higher value” thing again. Definitely a mones hit.

Things between us have become a little too comfortable and boring recently, so it’s good to restore a little masculine authority in the relationship.

Noticed that the strongest results come shortly after applying the a314 and whatever other mones I’m using. So I’m definitely not in OD territory yet. Maybe I should try more than 2 drops a314 and see how high I can take it.

OK with her being 21 I would probably stick with the Ammo and would start with 2 sprays of this alone and maybe adjust from here. I suggest the Ammo because A314 might just be to status heavy for what you are looking for.

I mean you could use the A314 with the P96 and the P96 would help the heavy Erone in the A314 to be more useable for your goal.

I am just thinking the Ammo will still provide the attraction/status and is better for your goal with her age being 21, as it has A-Nol in it which should help her be more open and comfortable around you with just using Ammo as your main pheromone.

I am thinking 2 sprays of Ammo to start with and see how this goes and then adjust your P96 dose for what you see fit. something like 2 sprays Ammo to maybe 10MCG of P96 to start should be really close for what you are looking for if you want to use both of them to start. I would start right here to see how she reacts to this and if anything maybe bump up the P96 to about 20MCG total to the 2 sprays Ammo. This should get you right there in the ballpark for your goal.

Last night applied less than half a drop a314 to neck before bed and had a great night’s sleep again. Should rename a314 to Mr Sandman.

12.30pm today IS 2x 1 spray to throat of togo bottle.

Was inspired by an old post by Dee that gave instructions on how to get started finding your sweet spots for different mones.

The IS 2x eems to have a fragrance, although I ordered the Stealth version. It’s an average synthetic fragrance, I guess. No immediate bad effects on me. But it smells like a very feminine perfume, not masculine at all.

Early afternoon, I suddenly developed the urge to send Christmas messages to a whole lot of business and personal contacts on FB. Sensible marketing strategy but also wonder if it was inspired by the IS 2x. I can certainly use all the help I can get with socializing. I’m often reluctant to reach out to people, so maybe the IS has helped there.

Strange to have an a314-free day, but IS 2x is a really good alternative. Amazing how many different experiences you can have with different mones.

4.30pm Can still smell the IS fragrance but presumably the IS effect has worn off. Doesn’t really feel like it has worn off though. Still running on the fumes, I guess.

5.30pm Second spray of IS 2x to throat. Not sure why, but wanting to continue testing anyway.

6pm 1 drop a314 on neck adjacent to IS area. Managed to restrain myself from using a314 until now, but figured I deserved a drop. The combination of the a314 scent and the IS 2x scent is not a great success, but it is bearable. Spraying my EO mix nearby helped improve the smell.

Drove 15 minutes in the car. Noticed that my coordination was completely off. Must be the IS 2x. Normally my coordination and control of the vehicle is pretty accurate and finely tuned, so it was a shock to discover that it was subpar. Went for a walk by the beach with GF. It was warm and windy, which probably blew most of my mones away. Didn’t notice a lot from other people but GF was appreciative of me. One guy walking past looked at me with a slightly cowed expression. Dogs seemed interested in me. Noticed that the IS 2x perfume had affected my voice a little - made it very slightly strangled. Am looking forward to trying the fragrance free Stealth IS oil. But I really need to make sure I don’t use it too soon before driving. Amazing that even 30 minutes before driving is enough to affect the experience. Maybe that will change with repeated exposure to IS.

Strangely no issue with neurotransmitter crash today after the IS usage. No obvious fatigue experienced. Much less than with the p96. Either IS 2x is different or I’m getting more used to the mones. I’m looking forward to taking a shower and removing the IS perfume though. I like the effect of IS, just not the perfume.

I need to be more careful about which EOs I mix together. After my negative experiences with the Sage EO, I’ve realised that EOs are not just different smells - they actually have different medicinal and psychological effects. I have always just mixed them based on which smells I like, but maybe I should be looking into which therapeutic effects each one has. Aromatherapy is a large field about which I know almost nothing.

I noticed that even Neroli has some antibacterial effects, but only against six kinds of bacteria, two types of yeast and three different fungi, according to a university study. Since there are many different types of bacteria on the skin, maybe Neroli doesn’t kill the ones that count.

Bought a tiny vial of expensive sandalwood essential oil today. Man that stuff has an awesome smell. The real deal - Santalum Album from India, not the West Indian or Australian varieties. Might be adulterated for all I know, but still smells amazing.

Edit:

Using mones has made me realize how often I touch my face, hands or neck. If you have applied mones to those places, it’s probably better not to touch them otherwise you will smear everything around, or worse, wipe them off accidentally. Anyway they say that touching your face is the most common way to transmit diseases, so anything that makes you touch your face less is a good thing.

Am very interested in the relationship between mones and general health. From what I’ve read in journals like Jdub and Night_Hawk, taking various vitamin supplements changes your natural mone signature. I’ve just ordered some products that are supposed to be good for your nitric oxide levels, so we will see what differences they make.

1.30pm 1 spray p95 5mcg to throat (for the appetite boosting effects)

SELF EFFECTS:

Like the last time I tried p95, I noticed I get a slight attitude problem when I wear this. It’s like I have an inflated sense of my own importance and I get slightly annoyed if I feel that others don’t recognize how important I (think I) am. This problem doesn’t occur with IG or a314.

The main reason I applied the p95 is because the previous time I used it, it seemed to boost my appetite a lot. That’s an important benefit for the holiday season.

4pm 5x p96 2.5mcg each
1.5 drops a314

SELF EFFECTS:

Felt much calmer than when I had applied the p95. I found that just like the first time I tried p95, I’m a little less tolerant than normal. Higher expectations and higher standards. Almost like a314, but without the chilled vibe.

Had a family event. Found I got on OK with my father for the first few hours, but by the end of the evening was getting irritated with him. He was just being his usual self, so the only thing that changed with me and my own attitude. The p95 added that little extra hint of testiness that is not there with just the a314 and the p96. It was a mistake wearing the p95 today. But it’s a good way to learn, I guess. I should have reapplied some more p96 as the event wore on.

EFFECTS ON OTHERS:

Family members were generally pretty chilled out with me. It was a much better situation than usual, overall. I felt better with them and they felt better with me. So although I did make a slight mistake using the p95, the general result was a vast improvement over the pre-mones equivalent. I’d put that down to the a314 and the p96. They generate a lot of extra respect and acceptance from others, while also generating a more chilled attitude from myself.

2x a314

Went shopping with GF. Lots of better (than usual) service in the stores we went into. Was called “Sir” more frequently than usual.

Created a new EO mix and applied it under chin. Consisted of sandalwood, clary sage and sweet orange. Got a massive headache after 30 minutes or so. Washed it off and made another mix of sandalwood, cedarwood, vanilla and bergamot. That also caused a headache. I’m probably using too high a concentration of EOs to carrier oil. That and maybe sandalwood just doesn’t agree with me.

Next day: 2x drops a314, 4x sprays p96 @ 2.5mcg

Spent an enjoyable day with GF eating lunch, relaxing and walking by the sea. Got great appreciation from her and good connection with her.

Next day:

Realized that a new mineral supplement I started taking recently might be connected to the reaction to sandalwood. It is supposed to cause an initial detox reaction, so that might have resulted in an increased sensitivity to EOs. I tried my usual, very mild EO mix this morning (without mones) and got a headache that lasted until I washed the EOs off. So maybe I can’t blame sandalwood, but rather the mineral supplement and its temporary detox effect. Which is good, because I like my basic EO mix.

Previous night - 1x a314 Stealth to throat. Strange to experience a314 with no smell, which I had really grown to like, despite initial misgivings. I got the warm self effect of calmness and confidence from the a314 Stealth when I applied it. Slept well until pre-dawn, then woke up earlier than I wanted. I put this down to detoxing from a supplement I was taking, not down to a314 Stealth. I’ll try a314 Stealth on its own during the day soon.

Next morning:

2x (regular) a314 below ears, 45mcg p96 to throat, EO mix

Good vibe and appreciation from GF.

Training the couple where the woman is an 8.5, got more of an awed response from them both. Less blushing from the woman this time, but she spent a lot of time looking up at me with her head lowered slightly, a more respectful way of looking, I guess.

SELF EFFECTS

Felt a little calmer and softer with the p96, but later when I went out shopping, was walking with an erect posture, in a calm, cool and collected way.

OTHER STUFF

Think it’s time to reread some of the journals that are so informative and inspiring - justintime469, jdub, mobocaster, Conjurator, CelticPrince, lwatkins, Von_Phero, Night Hawk, etc. I read them in a rush of enthusiasm, so now I should read them again more slowly.

Am getting a red spot on the front of my neck, just above my Adam’s apple. It’s where I apply the spray mones and also where I scrub them off every time I shower. Do other mone users get this red spot, I wonder? Looks a little comical; not very cool. Maybe applying lotion first before mones (like mobocaster does) would be a good idea.

No equivalent problem under the ears where I apply a314. Probably because the oil doesn’t irritate the skin as much as the alcohol does.

Is the red spot where you apply the EO? If so the EO may need to be diluted more and some EO will do this when used directly on the skin.

Thank you so much for the comments! To make things easier a lot of us have a guide or index in our sig below to help out other members navigate through our journals much easier and hope this helps. Feel free to leave any comments good or bad as this is what helps me to improve things.

I’m interested to hear your dietary influence on mones.

You got some interesting self effects with p95, never heard that stuff before.

I’ve made some straight EOs before with no carrier oil with no problem, but it was always generally the floral ones that did well. On the other hand, I’ve been adding woodsy ones lately and have been noticing that it is far too strong and gives me headaches as well.
I’ve found that I really need to dilute these in the carrier oils tremendously like down to just several drops of EO to 1/2-1 oz of carrier.
However I believe the effects are not nearly as good as having them hardly diluted..

I’m not sure what the red dot is about. I apply all my mones, EOs, hedione and sometimes cologne to my neck area. And I shower and scrub the spots roughly all the time. I haven’t gotten the red dot yet.

Usually I only apply the mones on the red spot, justintime, but you’re right - one day I did apply some really strong EOs to the red spot. I think that is when the spot first appeared. The EOs were diluted in a carrier oil, but probably nowhere near enough.

Jdub, I have had many issues with my diet over the years, so it is not surprising that sometimes they affect mones. I’m referring to food intolerances, not quantity of food. I’m currently looking into adrenal exhaustion issues, because they can affect hormones of all sorts, not only testosterone.

I did read the discussion you and justintime had about celery and have been eating celery since then. But not daily - after some initial enthusiasm, I got bored with it. Plus I read that excessive amounts of celery can cause thyroid problems, but you would have to eat a fairly large amount to get to that point. So I eat it every couple of days or so. I found a lot of conflicting info about celery. From memory, the most reliable info I came across said that it contained erone, not enone or something else. So maybe it is like a small dose of IG or something.

Re p95 - the issue I mentioned in my journal was the second time I used p95. I also had an issue with p95 and testiness when I first used it. I was driving my car and had an issue with another driver’s road rage. I wasn’t as fired up as they were, so I dismissed the incident, but in retrospect I feel like the p95 made me a bit more exacting than I would usually be. I was interested to read that one user said that p95 made him feel like Brad Pitt. I guess if Brad Pitt were playing an intolerant, testy character than yes, p95 made me feel like Brad Pitt too.

I agree with you - I think I wasn’t diluting the EOs sufficiently. Interesting that the woodsy ones are more intense for you too. I figured that since oakmoss and vetiver were OK, that sandalwood and cedarwood would be too, but I was wrong.

I didn’t add enough carrier oil initially because I couldn’t smell the EOs enough. I think I overloaded my sense of smell. I should have done what the pros do - sniff some coffee beans or ground coffee to reset my sense of smell.

What do you take to increase NO?

Nothing at the moment alphalabs, but I’m about to start with Citrulline and Arginine. Never tried Citrulline before and haven’t taken Arginine since five years ago.

Just started taking Boron, which supposedly helps testosterone levels (and helps detox from fluoride and hardens your bones and teeth). It’s making my heart race, but that’s apparently because it makes magnesium deficiencies more obvious, not because Boron affects your heart. So I’m supplementing with some mag too.

Good to know. I’ve been taking 2000mg of L-Arginine ED and other sups for the past week or so. It works.