Yeah, I agree its all about getting your inner issues handled. I read some of the phero stories and got seduced by the hype.
I cleaned out my whole apartment with ozone and ammonia… and there was one last little vestige of BO smell lingering somewhere near my computer. Then I remembered, I opened the phero bottles on my desk. I wiped my desk down with ammonia and water, and wow, its like a crystal spring in the rainforest now. Fresher than a mofo.
Thanks for the advice smoothplayer. I’m definitely grateful for the whole experience even though it was nerve-wracking. The biggest mistake you can ever make is to not give yourself permission to make them. My favorite quote from Richard Bandler is “I’ve been wrong so many times, I decided to just go ahead and be wrong in ways that are more interesting.” If you’re really committed to achieving something, you’ve got to be willing to try everything.
Update on my status: I seem to still be getting pheromone effects while in the close vicinity of other people for long periods of time. I went to class, which is in a very small room with alot of people. I took off my jacket, and after a few minutes I noticed the teacher sniffing and taking deep breaths. I still felt ok, and class went on. Near the one hour mark, I started feeling dizzy, and I thought maybe my tshirt still had some pheros on it, so I put my jacket back on and zipped it up. This seemed to help calm me down.
I decide to wash that t-shirt in the laundry with ammonia.
Next day, I go to another class, larger room with fewer people. Wear the same tshirt and clothes, but freshly washed. Slowly over the course of an hour I started feeling dizzy. I put my jacket back on and zipped it up, this seemed to help a little. This class is more informal and more conversational, so what I noticed is people making offhand comments about how they felt drunk, and some said they felt stoned. One guy said “man I smell bad.” presumably because his smelling my pheromones made him start to sweat. I’ve noticed this happen with many other people before.
A few weeks ago I told a girl friend about the pheros and she came over to help smell them out for me. She said she didnt smell anything, but she felt light headed and she said she could smell her own BO because she was starting to sweat, though she continues to insist that it’s all in my head.
Now, this is certainly preferable to what was happening before with people getting aggressive, but it tells me that all the effort I’ve put into cleaning my clothes and closet has been only marginally effective. At least now I’m not getting the spine-tingling chills and uncontrollable sweats like I was before. At this rate, though, I’ll be lucky if it’s totally cleaned up by Christmas. Time to go buy some hydrogen peroxide and pet stain remover. I might try soaking my clothes in warm ammonia water for a longer period of time.
Please go to your doctor. These symptoms really do not have anything to do with mones. They are all in your head and you are making it worse for yourself. I will explain again…
Ammonia is a toxic chemical. You are using it. If you teacher did sniff the air this is what he/she is smelling. It smells like piss by the way and is very close in scent to anone. Of course its more likely that your teacher has a cold or his nose is stuffed up.
This is stress, you are stressing yourself out.
People sniff ammonia to get high Just like glue or magic makers. You are washing your cloths in ammonia and when your body warms up the smell permiates the room and would make a damn gerbal dizzy and feel stoned.
Again ammonia smells like piss and that is what they are smelling now not mones that you used a few times a few weeks ago.
Your girlfriend is smart. Listen to her its in your head. She probably got light headed from all the deep inhaling which is perfectly normal.
People have said not to apply to cloths or hair because its smelly not because it will hurt you in any way. ALL of the mones here can be applied to cloths and to hair. It may dry your hair out a little. If its a oil it may stain your cloths but that is all it will do besides giving the desired effect that the product was intended for.
Now if you want to let sublime’s paranoia concern you about the safty of these products its up to you. But do you really think if any of what he has said is truely happening that out of all these people in the forum no one has said anything.
Read his posts from beginning to end and you will see he didnt even buy his mones here. He barely used them. He has bought new cloths . He didnt apply to his hair or his cloths. The list go’s on and on.
I’m pretty sure LS and AD are the two best phero companies. And the only product that they share is A314 if I’m not mistaken. Other LS products includes (again i THINK these are LS, someone correct me if i’m wrong): Scent of Eros (SoE), NPA (new pheromone Additive), Wagg, TE (the edge) and others
Tisha, you seem to be involved in the pheromone biz here. I apologize if my complaints are cutting into your business in any way. It’s not my intention to be here and cause damage because I had a bad experience. I do however want to get my issue solved, and I know I may be a rare case, but it could also serve to help other newbies in the future to avoid the pitfalls, which I think in the long run will help you guys to maintain more loyal customers. The LS forum (where I bought my pheromones) offered almost no help to me on this issue. I really appreciate all that you have helped me with. If I were to buy pheros again, I would definitely buy from you guys, instead.
You’ve got a good point about the ammonia possibly being the agent that’s causing the stoned feeling now. However, this stoned feeling is still very similar to the buzz feeling when smelling Scent of Eros for example. I wonder if Scent of Eros contains ammonia. I contacted the people at LS and asked them to put me in touch with the people who made my pheromones. They forwarded my email to them. In the meantime, I’m gonna see if I can set up a doctor’s appointment.
Both companies are good. The best on the net in my opinion. Androtics comes in at number 1 for me but that is just my personal feelings and yes you can say I am bias but if I am its because the products here are more versatile for me and they work better for me. Sure I have to wait longer to get them but I know when I do they will be worth that wait.
I will say I do use products from both sites. I get my EOW from there because they dont sell a pure cop formula here. You think anone is bad smelling. You cant keep eow in its origonal container because it will melt the cap. No one has ever gotten sick from it unless you count how the smell out of the bottle makes you gag.
I love SOE. James Kohl the maker of the product posts on here often. Kinda wish he was here now.
I have a bunch others from there and some work for me and some dont.
Yes Androdics has alot things that they dont have. Advanced products, To be fair they have things androtics dosnt have.
You’re on a competitors site of the site you bought the pheromones from and yet you post a narcissistic thread I can only derive is meant to scare people.
Your washing and cleaning everything in AMMONIA, a TOXIC chemical and yet are blaming pheromones from over a week ago.
Ammonia poisoning Definition
This is poisoning from swallowing or breathing in (inhaling) ammonia. Poisoning may also occur from touching products that contain very large amounts of ammonia. Poisonous Ingredient
Ammonia Where Found
Ammonia Some household cleaners Some liniments Some fertilizers Note: This list may not be all inclusive. Symptoms
Whole body
Fever
Lungs and chest
Cough
Chest pain (severe)
Tight chest
Wheezing
Eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and throat
Tearing and burning of eyes
Hey… I posted a reply and it didnt show up. Basically I apologize for causing havoc, and really appreciate all the help because I didnt get any help from the LS forum. If I were to buy again, I would definitely buy from you guys.
Ok guys, the stuff about ammonia poisoning makes total sense. The only thing that doesn’t make sense is that I started getting those symptoms before using ammonia. Now that I think about it, I started getting those symptoms only after using generous amounts of oxi-clean. I wonder if oxi-clean contains or produces an ammonia by-product. I’m gonna stop using that stuff, and I’ll wash all my laundry without using any chemicals. I’m one more distinction closer to finding the solution…
I am always on the LS forum reading although I don’t post there. How come this thread isn’t over there?
We have this thread claiming I bought some very good products from a competitor and CLAIMS no one there will help. Please post a link to the thread on LS so we can all see it for ourselves how that entire forum of dedicated, knowledgeable users wont help you. Many of those users post here often. Why help you here and not there?
I am also suspect about your post which remains in moderation. There you name all the products you bought and hate because they ruined your life, list the site you bought them so others can go and ruin there life and then the wholesaler that Bruce from the other site sent you so you can personally contact their supplier. It doesn’t make sense why a retailer would release a supplier to you so that you can bypass them altogether for the product that has ruined your life, but you might buy again just for social experimenting.
Am I missing something because this all sounds way contrived to me.
Here’s the link to my thread on Love Scent: [removed broken link]
Some of them just called me crazy, and one guy, Smoothplayer, actually said he had a similar experience, but the advice I received didnt solve the problem. I mentioned NLP in that thread, and I think some of them might have taken issue to that, so I didnt mention that here.
It’s a little embarrasing that it’s been going on for so long now. However, I’m willing to just say it like it is in hopes of finding something that will actually work, in spite of being called crazy, contrived, paranoid, etc.
Ok, I gotcha. My post doesnt go through because it’s getting moderated. Alright I gave you the link to my thread on LS. They did not release the name of the supplier to me. The supplier can be easily found on the LS site when you check out the product pages. Their contact info is not listed, thats why I asked LS to give it to me. They wouldn’t, but they did forward my email to the supplier. I’m just looking for help and hoping someone’s got the answer that works for me, so I’m trying to be as candid as I can and give all the pertinent details. This is not a viral advertising scheme. Why would someone actually want to buy those same products that I used after I’ve been going on about how I dont like them. Maybe thats why they wouldnt help me over there, because I had a problem with their product. When I came over here, people actually gave good advice, perhaps because I was saying I had a problem with the competitor’s product? I dont know. I don’t need politics right now, I need solutions.
