walc from scandinavia (lets keep it vague for now ) here. My english reading skills is pretty close to fluent, my english writing skills a bit lower but I get by. Talking a bit worse.
Approaching my forties with ever-increasing speed, I look back on my life so far and see a lot of loneliness and very little intimacy. I’ve been through nine years of psychotherapy an learned a lot about myself, but still struggling with these issues. I am somewhat shy or maybe distanced is a better term. Insecurity makes me distanced, trust is a problem.
The last years I’ve lived in involuntary celibacy, although I guess the involuntary part of it may be debated - is unconcscious self-defeating social behaviour to be considered involuntary or voluntary?
I have a ok sized social circle. I just have a little trouble interacting in a intimate way with people sometimes. The ppl I hang with are maybe not out of the mainstream really. I get attracted to the kind of girls that stands firmly on both feet, take their place in the group, speak their mind, but without beeing abrasive or nasty. People that have access to both their strength and weakness, gentleness and hardness, seriousness and sillyness. It’s my ideal, what I myself want to be and what I am searching for, an un-idealistic ideal.
So why am I here? I am here because I need a little cheat
I am pretty sure I have a lot to give to a person if we got close enough emotionally. It’s just that I seldom get that “getting close” to work. If there is a road going from aquaintance through friendly to really close that a person have to travel to get intimate with me, then inside of me that road is intersected by a rather wide moat. I have at very few times met a person that somehow just went over that moat in my chest, without me really realising until they stood in the courtyard of my heart, all my defenses down. Maybe the gatekeeper was asleep at the drawbridge that day. Maybe that special girl had wings, she sure had the smile of an angel and the radiant halo to match.
I guess I am looking for keys. The door (wasn’t it a drawbridge just?) kind of opens from both sides. And I guess pheromones can help a little on both sides?
Oh yeah, the sex. Of course I need sex just like everyone else. It’s just that right now it’s all intermingled for me, sex and emotional closeness, and I probaly couldn’t get an emotionally uninvolved one-night-stand just-for-the-sex to work because of my unfulfilled need for emotional closeness.
edit addendum: forgot some. Male and hetero, although a good third of my friends are bi or gay.
Instant Shine ..what will make you more confident and more feel good in your skin .. it´s mood enhancing for you and the ones around you ..
Ammo will be the thing when you go out and want to meet some women ..it´s an overall sexual - social product .. this one will make women show more interest in you ..
i hope you will have some fun here ..
and do not forget to check all the stickies here on this board .. you´re gonna be happy that you made the effort to read them .. once you´re through
No worries about the English.Youll get good practice here on the forums(^_^)Can understand about being shy and difficult to trust people.I used to be the same way,i avoided talking to people and hanging around them because i didnt feel like i could trust them or confide in them.Like they were all just people i knew instead of being my friends but i changed a bit after finding some people who i could really call my friends.
Pheremones will definitely help you set the vibe and mood but you will still have to make the effort to change yourself to fit the vibe but it will definitely make it easier.Woudnt worry too much about the sex,pheromones dont remove free will so they would have to be pretty comfortable with you anyway.should definitely read the thread below so you have an expectation of what to expect with the effects.Could do some research on conversation and pua like david deangelo or leil lowndes like pagodeiro said also to make conversation easier.
What pheromones can do and what they cant Updated
(What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers)
In terms of what product would fit you best,the socials would probably work out well for you since you want bonding and trust.Instant honesty will probably be a good product for you as it makes people feel closer and bonded like they have known each other for a long time.Paired with instant shine which makes you and the people around you feel happier,would definitely help you be able to bond with people more.Sex and attraction wise,ammo would probably be enough as tuth comes across a bit strong and detracts from the closenesss unless your in a relationship.All the best and hope things work out well for you.Im sure youll fit in here since everyone is helpful and friendly.Should definitely check out the stickies like pagodeiro said.Ive listed a few below to get you started.
I would also say take Ammo and Instant Shine. The PUA stuff is a great experience, use this stuff, together with the right mones is that a extreme powerful tool.
I would love to hear more about you and your mone adventures.
This is basically a starting palette, I’m just gonna try each one out one at a time as recommended, at different dosages. I’m buying the TOGO’s b/c of price, since there will be shipping it will cut a bit anyway..
I’m skipping the Instant Gentleman. Most of the girls I’m interested in is between 23 and 35 so I’m a bit older and don’t really need to seem even older. Also I’m already seen as a ‘nice guy’ (well-deserved so!). Instant Jerk just… well, I just don’t see that going well neither with my personality or the people I hang with. But I will read up a bit more and may change opinion later on…
I’ve read Strauss “The Game”, it was entertaining… but as I wrote my social circle is a bit away from the mainstream and general PUA techniques probably won’t work well there.
However there is a Swedish guy (Henrik Fexeus) that wrote a Swedish version of a PUA-book supposed to be more ‘in line’ with our cultural norms. He decsribes himself as a ‘mind reader and psychological manipulator’ of the entertainer and stage magician type. As far as I can tell some of the stuff is similar what little I’ve skimmed of the other PUA stuff but just more “Swedish people oriented”. I probably will read some other PUA texts also, to compare and because there is always something to learn.
Also, as a side bar, what about using phermones for other purposes than social effect i.e. with yourself as only (intended) target?
For purposes like extra energy in the gym, appetite suppressant for dieting and so? Maybe as a mild anti-depressant (yes, I am on an anti-depressant, Moclobemide)? Does any of the stuff at SmartMones work towards that, as a side effect or main effect?
I realise that I should search and read the forums more, this may already have been discussed..
Thats definitely a fair set to experiment with.Haha,yeah.Shipping is pretty expensive so i tend to order in bulk when i order anything(>_<)Haha,yup.Should probably skip instant gentleman as it mainly helps if your trying to attract asians or younger girls.Lol,you were definitely wise to skip instant jerk unless you wanted to have that effect on people.Not a good effect unless your a martial arts expert or something(:-p)
Haha,i read the game too.It was a pretty cool book but i dont think pickup should be a game.Kind of like david deangelos stuff a bit more as he goes into the psychology of how women think rather than how to pick them up.It makes a fascinating read anyway.Could understand that it might not be suitable though for different cultures.The author you mentioned sounds pretty cool.Definitely should read it if it fits your culture.Quite difficult to read minds/body language and manipulate people though,takes quite a bit of practice.
For testing on yourself only,its possible but i woulnt use it all the time or your body will get too used to it and the self effects will diminish.Instant shine has been used as an antidepressant before but its only a mild one,probably wont remove all the depression unless its overdosed.Heres a couple of threads that have discussed it before.All the best and hope you have an awesome time testing out your pheremones.Should definitely start a journal so we can all read it.For extra energy in the gym and appetite supressant,i havent heard of pheremones that can do that but some of the experimental ones might but i dont know about them.I think it would be better just to take gym supplements that are proven to have that effect for those.
) here. My english reading skills is pretty close to fluent, my english writing skills a bit lower but I get by. Talking a bit worse.