What to do? I still like her.

Problem solved.
Thanks for attention.

hey, we all know how it feels to like someone and not be with them (it sucks)

the first tip i would give you is, dont make her all u think about, the pain will get allot worse before it gets better. believe me.

secondly, as far as pheromones are concernd id say use some instant shine with some A314. interact with these pheros before you ask her out, dont just use once and approach thinking shel say yes, you need to know how well they work.

youl know if she likes you too, if she agrees then get her to meet u sumwhere, anywhere, start TALKIN and WALKIN, the road and pheros will do the rest.

hope this helps :wink:
anyone got anymore advice.

I think the only way to get an ex back in these circumstances is to carry on living your life being cool.

I don’t think asking her out is the way forward. It comes off as being needy and needy never gets the girl back because it is unattractive. Even if you could ask her in a non-needy fashion and she agreed to meet you, at some point you would end up talking about how you want her back and you would fall right into being needy. And I guarantee you will not be able to persuade her to be your GF again.

If on the other hand, you carry on (appearing) unaffected, being social and generally being strong in your own frame, portraying the kind of cool guy she might be interested in, at some point she might think to herself ‘Actually I remember why I went out with this guy and actually the grass wasn’t greener with Mr New BF. Hmm, I might give Kevio another try’.

Even if she doesn’t think that, you’ll be having fun being social and someone else just as nice might be attracted to that.

Good luck. :slight_smile:

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very good advice made nibbla.

it really really is true about needy being unatractive.

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Thanks for all the advices. I don’t know why my replies cannot go up.

Thing is, I don’t have time. That even put me more in a dilemma. She will go work overseas in next 2 months.

I now have Edge, SoE, NPA. A314 and Instant Shine are coming and should arrive around Thu or Fri. Fri is the day of my plan. It’s her special day.

We have all been through this in one form or another.

If she has a new guy and her birthday is coming up you can be pretty sure that they have plans. I would just let things be for a while. Remain friendly but keep space. You are a solid guy and you have your own great life whether she is in it or not. She is going to have to live with the consequences of her decision.

On her birthday I would strike up a quick, cool, casual conversation and as you turn to leave say Happy Birthday as an afterthought.

Being gone overseas for two months works in favor both ways. Both of you will have time to reconsider. You will have time to move on with your life and decide if you really need her in it. And she will have time to decide how connected she is to the new guy. If there is any way to stay connected to her professionally that would be perfect. She would know you were still there but it would not seem like you were grasping.

It’s just she will be gone for good. She’s not Japanese. She’s going back home.

But, Kevio, if she’s going home, what do you hope to come of this? Even if you get her back… are you hoping to get her back as your girl and get her to stay within this two months? Or are you hoping to rekindle in order to have a long distance love once she’s returned home. Either way, that’s a whole heck of a lot of mending to do in a couple of months, dear.

I forgot to mention a lot of things. My mind is like a maze now. Even my English is becoming awful - sorry.

We are both from the same country but we met here. If she goes back to work, it’s fine. I’ll catch up in the next 6 months or so. I only need to confirm whether she still have some feelings for me. Still, distance is far and time is long. I know what they mean.

These two months would be my worst ever. I know I cannot rush things up but I don’t want to take too much time as well.

Thanks a lot

Gotcha.. so after these two months pass, you won’t see her for 6 months? In that case, I think the advice from of above is more important than ever. Most casual dating relationships fail… so there’a a good chance that this cat that’s hanging around her now won’t make it through the time that you get back to her. If that’s the case, it’s best that you came off as the cool cat that got away. I know it’s hard.. and I know you miss her. But you can’t creep her out. Just follow the advice above… A314, openess. Play it cool.

I’d also recommend expoloring yourself these next few months. Take some time to date other people… really live it up. That way you can work through some of the issues you had with this lady without her. So that when you meet back up she says, “wow… what is it about you?”. Leave a great impression for her trip back home. And that means being cool and backing way off.

I know I’ve said nothing you want to hear, but it’s the best advice I have. Looking back, the needy guys never got me. In fact, even if I thought they were sexy at first… if they appeared the least bit needy, they got the boot. However, when a man is able to display want without need… well that’s just plain hot. But it takes a certain balance and a lot of self confidence to pull that off. I’d advise you use this 8 months or so to focus on building that confidence. Who knows… by the end you may decide it’s she who does not deserve you.

Good luck buddy

Yes. The time length is about that. I appreciate your advice. Should I be seeing her and show her my feeling during these two months? I understand I cannot be too needy. I’ll try to do that.

The other guy is Japanese and has been seeing her for a month now. I found that out 2 weeks ago.

Although I know her for quite sometime, she still doesn’t let me know of how to contact her when I go back. She told me a lot about herself and personal life, however.

As above, I think it’s a great idea to talk to her… casual convos and deeper where the occassion arises. I like the idea of wearing the A314, TAA, openess or honesty combo. I wouldn’t mention anything about your feelings for her unless she expresses those feelings first… or starts giving you IOI’s. Even then, I’d be laid back about it.

As for trying to date her, I would lay off asking her out when she’s seeing this other guy. Also, I would make the contacts I had with her high in quality and meaningful, but brief.

Thank you. I’ll try my best.

By the way, can you suggest me what to give her? I am finding another present that doesn’t suggest too much of anything. I tried making a picture of her from flower mosaics and think I might get it in a frame and give her. Is it appropriate?

Yeah, Kev, I don’t think I’d get her a gift. I think I’d go with Bosshank’s advice and casually give her a “oh… happy bday” as an afterthought. It’s ok… women don’t expect bday gifts from their exes so you’re cool.

Many thanks. So now I have a gift on my table but can’t even let her know. I’ll just put it away…

If your that bent up over her you will probably just make it worse…
Go have sex with 10 other women and see if she is still that important to you after the fact, and if she is you will probably be in a much better place mentally to get her back.

If she said she just wants to be friends then awesome! Be friends! she can help you pick up chics! and that kind of messes with their heads to cus it radiates the fact that you don’t care you two aren’t dating anymore which makes her want all that attention back, once you have her pursuing you its a lot easier, lol

It always seems like that girl is the one, or that that particular girl is the one you have to have, the same thing happens to women with guys, not being able to have it makes it much more desirable to you

If you have ever seen Borat the movie, those jocks he rides with do say 1 single thing of actual value in terms of advice, never let a women (or man) make you who you are, you simply won’t be happy!
When you need attention and all that relationship crap it makes it valuable and the person giving it starts to feel weird about giving it to you

A relationship is a partnership, not one person attending to the neediness of another

So basically my advice is stop caring so much :slight_smile:

seriously man, I think the best advice given here was to not come across as needy. Come across as confident, independent, and slightly indifferent to your current situation. Trust me, I think we’ve all been through this one before. And yeah, no gift but if you have to at most give her a card wishing her a happy birthday. Good luck

Gifts are acceptable in 2 situations
1- birthday, special holiday, or other day in which holds significants and gifts are often given or expected
2- On a whim

2 requires a bit of a description as most gifts are given on a whim far too frequently

every once in a while, it is ok to just see something you think they would really like or that you think is really cool and they may like and get it for the girl

You should not go out and get something just to give a gift, if you are out and see something really cool you may get it
but make these gifts a rarity, an extreme rarity
then when you give them, the girl gets all excited and happy about it

the random gift things are a big risk, don’t do it if you have any doubt about whether or not it will come off as needy since that usually means it will (either because you give too much or you will appear needy when giving it)

also, just because you got it for her doesn’t mean she gets it easily or for free, if its a really good gift, tease her with it all day, if she does something that your going to pick on her for say something like oh, well I WAS going to give this to you, but now I don’t know…(awesome way to introduce a gift) she will usually want it really bad after that, and you can toy with her for hours with it before giving it to her, don’t use the gimmick to death though, know when to put it away and save it for later (say you’ll get it later if your good or something)