So it’s my Ex’s birthday today. I decided to get her a gift and write her a note, basically saying I think we should start over as we went too fast before. I got the gift for her a very long time ago, but never had the chance to give it to her.
I’ve been speaking to my Ex’s friend, she’s going to give her the gift for me. What should I wear when I meet her? I want her to really like me, think I’m trustworthy, attractive, etc.
I know my Ex is influenced A LOT by what this girl says, so I need to get in her good books and make her love me!
You cannot make anyone just up and love you it does not work that way though I wish it did. If the girl already thinks you are a jerk or a retard and she feels you are not made for her friend the girl you are after. Chances are you may be able to lighten the mood by picking a certain pheromone that will do that for you but you ultimately have to sell yourself.
I also feel that by you giving the gift to her friend right there that makes you look like a second rate Beta dog not an Alpha or a lead dog. It is up to you but I sure would not want to meet up with some chick and have the feeling of being a second class pick right off the fly. It is up to you though me myself I would be giving the gift myself not giving it to someone else to give to her but that is just my opinion.
Your plan sucks. You’re going to give her a present, but have someone else give it too her. Write her a note, talk to her friends about her. Very beta vibe.
Well I’m seeing other girls at the same time, so she’s really low down on the priority ladder.
However, I wanted it to be a complete surprise for her. The note I wrote was pretty long and explains everything. If she wants something to happen, it will. If not, then it’s over and I’m completely fine with that. I guess it can be seen as slightly Beta, but that’s not the intention. It was just meant to be romantic, plus I was really busy today and didn’t have time to talk to her.
I must say that ignoring an ex around the time of their birthday or some other critical date has always been a good way of getting them coming back for attention - If they have any inclination or desire to contact you or seek your attention, they will.
Also, where ex’s friends are concerned, I make it a point of never mentioning or discussing anything about the ex with them. I do see/have a chat with a couple of my ex’s friends/colleagues occasionally and I’m happy to - they are pleasant company. However, the ex does not get a look-in but on a few occasions, I have found out that everything gets back to her and it winds her-up no-end!
And as for the gift/note idea - Bad, bad, BAD idea for oh-so many reasons. On one level its a clear signal that you are pining for her and willing to be wrapped round her finger no matter how much shit she heaps on you, or on another its “that creep trying to get at me through my friends now!” And very few of us are eloquent enough to get anything emotional over to someone on paper without making it clompingly painful.
All my friends told me it was a great idea. Evidently it wasn’t then! I hadn’t spoken to her in about a month so I thought I had to make the first move since she did it last time.
I guess I just put the nail in the coffin. Ah well, it’s a lost cause
Giving any gifts - unless warranted for a justified reason - is Beta indeed. In most cases you should not even care it is her birthday. Unless you want to be friends with her, of course.
If you really like the girl and also honestly feel that she deserves you, then you might want to try this:
You have to get her friend onboard first, though (and be 100% sure she is with you on this)… unless you want to be eaten alive.
Haha, nice thread. I don’t think I’ll be able to get her friend onboard though. They are best freinds and I’m pretty sure they tell each other everything. The last time I spoke to her is when she messaged me saying, “Sorry x” then “I hope you’re not angry lol”. This was on Halloween (we were both drunk) when I turned my back for 1 minute then she vanished.
Me and my ex aren’t really on speaking terms at the moment. I guess I can’t recover from this gift thing. I’m not sure what to do
Well, you’re on a forum that has guys on here that have more experience in talking to women then your friends. No offense but if they thought this was a good idea, I lament for the women that will be subjected to their fumbling attempts at seduction. That said, I would personally lean towards not bothering with the ex at all, too many issues that can be brought back up in my opinion. However, what I can say is in general, the way to get a woman’s attention usually depends on your abilities to talk to her, show her that you’re an alpha male, confident, interesting, funny, sexy, etc, etc. The gift is a nice thing to do but I would say no. As someone also pointed out, if the girl has any inclination of talking to you again, then not doing anything for her bday would be best. Giving her a present may come off as being nice and sweet but in my experience, women don’t want that, not at first. Be intriguing, be interesting, be hard to get, be a slight tease. I’m not entirely fond of PUA tactics but the psychology behind it is very informative as to what gets women interested and how to adjust your approach when talking to them. This can make a much larger improvement to getting someone you’re interested in to reciprocate their feelings towards you. Pheros won’t magically make anyone drop their panties for us or fall head over heels in love, though in some very very very rare situations, that can happen. They’re like lube for gears. The gears will still move but the lube makes things move more smoothly.
Just my two cents, take it as you would and best of luck
I believe the reason I want her so much, is because (sadly) she’s pretty much the only girl I’ve ever been with. We actually met online and later found out we lived near each other, which meant we already knew everything about each other prior to meeting up. I found it incredibly easy to navigate from there.
However, I’ve never hooked up with a girl or had a girlfriend through the normal means. Honestly, it kinda freaks me out as I don’t know where to start. It’s pathetic really, especially as I go to a university full of 23,000 different girls and don’t have the balls to approach any…
I do not know how often or what pheromone you wear, but once you do find the right products and mixes, it would not be too difficult to notice IOI’s. It is approaching made easy. The girls practically tell you to talk with them. No, it does not neccessarily mean you can literally pick the girls that way. No, you have to take it from there, but it is a hell of a lot easier than guessing if she likes me or not, and not approaching at all.
No, it does not neccessarily mean you can literally pick the girls that way. No, you have to take it from there, but it is a hell of a lot easier than guessing if she likes me or not, and not approaching at all.