A person try and carry the same phero sig as they had when they met the person??
My point is for effectiveness not if it is possible to switch around your phero sig. I was thinking they are attracted to you for different reasons, maybe not even for your phero sig, but changing that “First Impression” may just confuse the situation enough that your personality and other attributes get lost in the confusion of your phero sig. The reason I am saying this is because I got 2 numbers and dates set from those numbers and was wearing the none split test pack and some IS/IO. I’m looking at it as they may interpret you as a different person so to speak. I would think it may be beneficial to wear the same mix at least for the first date so they “remember” why they put their number in your phone. ANY THOUGHTS!?!?!
I tend to keep the same sig, but when I first met this person I was wearing a high -none sig (IJ) with some P96 for my testing. As things progressed I went to a higher AndrostERONE sig as my base with more comfort and socials. I kept up the attraction level on a communication level, not the mones. I occasionally threw in the IJ signature there as appropriate but I wasn’t going to play around with high -none sigs cause I had a couple of ghosting effects with that person it could have been the wrong timing.
RAD made a good post about progressing mone sigs, but my usage is more tactical depending on the situation, you can do either or but it really depends on your personality. If you’re more dynamic, I can see you using different sigs (not radical differences) at the appropriate times and it working out well for you. Androstenone and Androsterone can both project manly vibes and adding an AMMO to an IG or straight -none can keep the original sig in tact.
I’ve experimented with different mixes with different women and I know sometimes it doesn’t work the way you expect it to (IJ and MX395) and sometimes it’ll work (A314 and IJ). You just gotta keep experimenting and see what works for you.
In my case, the new girl I’m seeing I at first kept the same sig. Then I started playing around with more sexual ones and quite honestly that didn’t seem to work. Other than IJ w/ cops and IG. That mix did all right with her.
So, I went back to square one. I started over with my high status, charismatic, bonding sig of A314 + IH + Ammo.
Now she sees me a lot at work and that’s my sig there, so when I see her outside of work I swap the ratios. ( I make it a more sexual mix) I go less A314, a bit more Ammo and keep IH normal. I do toss in a lot of IS, ooooh she loves the IS.
I honestly refresh that quite frequently throughout the evening and she’s just a bundle of joy.
HOWEVER… We got real comfortable with each other real quick. Maybe it was the IH and the A! I wear every now and then when around her. But to keep from getting friend zoned I’m constantly using kino and I spritz a bit of TUTH under the shirt, or I use my NPA/SPO/Realm spray under the shirt.
I do this in situations where we’re actually going out on a date. We’ve been hanging together a bit lately and her youngest is usually around, I don’t use the high none stuff then.
I remember meeting a really cute little thing in BuckyStars a while ago, back when I was just a customer here. I didn’t want to listen to anybodies advice about finding your sweet spot and really had not a clue as to what I was combining. All in short order I had this girls number and within a few days had a second meetup. Both of us over the phone and during our first chat at BS Coffees were evidently into each other and wanted to get down with it. After all we all know it tastes just like chicken .
Well the second time we met up something was different right from the get go. That connection she had with me just couldn’t get going. There was a spark, but the kindling was wet and the fire never got going. We were even at the river at this little “make-out” place and admittedly she said she didn’t know what it was but she didn’t feel that same connection and it wasn’t going to happen. I was like WOW, WTF happened. It took me a few days of pondering, but I was soon to realize that while I attempted to wear the same combo I had no idea what I had originally wore. How could I really duplicate something that I didn’t even understand what it was in the first place.
Back then I was pretty dependent on the mones believing, that while my game was OK (actually rather weak), it was primarily the mones that afforded me the opportunity for sex.
Really what I should have been doing is spending time building the necessary comfort and attraction stages so that the next date wouldn’t have relied on the mones, but more on me. It was one of those instances where the mones hit her harder than my own personality. I actually think, regardless of what I was wearing, that if we didn’t have sex that day it would have never happened anyway and it didn’t.
Remember mones are simply a tool to accent or enhance you. Just like a nice pair of jeans or new shirt, if you meet up with her and you’re not wearing the same clothes is she going to not like you? If the answer is anything other than a resounding NO, then you’re not flipping the necessary attraction switches. I guess we all need reminding of this though, even you GorMas2020, as an experienced veteran are placing emphasis more on the mones than yourself. It is you these girls liked, your personality, and that’s why they gave you their number.
I get numbers and day 2’s and 3’s all the time and I’m always mixing things up. I go with the mones that are going to make the biggest impact on the way I feel that day. My suggestion to you is to be yourself and have that same confidence and charm you had when you met them and regardless if you’re wearing mones or not, you’ll do excellent.
Trust me when I say this that MY personality is as big as that face tattoo on my avatar( Steve) I love my mones as an enhancer and decided to wear my mx388 IS/IO combo cut in half from the initial meeting with 2 sprays IG on my date. I know its a tool and not a substitute, but who uses a screwdriver to pound in a nail after using a hammer first. I have enough confidence in my one on one dating ability that I really could have went sans mones. I was just curious as to peoples opinions on the subject. I would think that there could be some sub-conscience bells that could go off that it was like wait a minute here who is this guy again. I know your personality is technically what gets you laid long term or in the short term for that matter and mones for surely don’t get you laid, but that comfort you need to create that is so crucial may take longer if your switching your sigs regularly.
If anyone cares the date went well… This girl is black and 27yrs old. Everything went good with mx388 2 sprays to the chest, 1 spray IO/IS to the chest 2 sprays IG to back of the neck and 1 spray IO/IS to the back of the neck. I did notice that her 7 year old son had no problems with the none like my son does. No physical IOIs she was just TELLING me how AWESOME I was and planning our next date 30 minutes into our first I wasn’t paying attention to others sorry I was on a date. I got winked at by the waitress a couple times too
I did call a guy sir for some reason when I don’t usually do so to younger or guys the same age as me unless being very sarcastic (another mones fan perhaps )
Got home at 8pm after leaving at 5pm(application time) and got a text from girl 2 who is a 25yr old Italian I think, but we were supposed to go out Thursday night(still are) and I went to her house for a beer… I applied 1 more spray of each at 9pm before I left and this girl started very open having her whole body facing me and played with her hair twisting it and fixing it the WHOLE time yet the longer we were together her other body language became closed off which I found to be weird and she seemed to want more space. When I left her she grabbed me and gave me a LONG hug so went in for a kiss and got the top of her head so I just kissed that a couple times and tried breaking away and she didn’t let go so I gave her a squeeze and another kiss to the head and broke away but purposely grabbed and held her hand as I walked away releasing at the last possible second… got a text before I even started my car apologizing for not kissing me or should I say for shutting me down and AM REALLY looking forward to Thursday and I LOVED how easy you were to talk to…
WOMEN go figure
When I was seeing this blonde girl during the Summer, at times, I wore mones, but also many times, I had not. I saw more dramatic and open reactions with mones, but not having it on didn’t hurt me too much.
Hey soul sista aint that mister mister on the radio, stereo, the way you move ain’t fair ya know…The way you cut a rug. Watching you is the only drug I need. So gangster, I’m so thug.Your the only one I’m dreaming of…
Lets just put it this way, I DON’T discriminate
CoolKat IYO…Does it mean that they don’t feel the same way with or without mones!!! Are you saying that they feel stronger emotions with mones than without??? Or are you saying they feel nothing at all and you should have been wearing mones??? I personally believe all mones are intesifiers to a degree. They up the emotional levels. I think steve has a good point when he says to wear mones that fit your mood for the day, But then I would be walking around with 12 sprays of TUTH on everywhere everyday…haha LMAO
I’m guessing CoolKat that your saying you didn’t need mones all the time and things went just fine, but was looking for some clarification if that wasn’t the case…your “didn’t hurt too much” threw me off a bit
Hey, well when I first met her, I wore 2xammo + 2xIS at this s social event. I talked to her for a min or two. Also,she was talking to some other people. Well, toward the end, she came by my friends and I. She just stopped and said it was nice meeting you, so I just went over said me too, let me get your number. She got all excited and handed it to me. I talked to her for another minute before heading out.
I somehow ran into her again and she was like call me and we should hang out. I did a couple days later but got no reply for like 8 days. After 3 days, I was like well, I gues I didn’t do enough. Oh well. But she called and left me a message asking me to go eat with her.
Anyways, I wore ammo and some other socials around her the next couple days and each time she was all excited happy and so full of life. When I wore nothing around her, she didn’t seem as lively as before, but she still seemed to enjoy the interactions.
Later on, even when I was wearing nothing, she acted as if I were.
Now, you see why I was doubtful of myself. The first time I met her, the mones did like 80 percent of the work. All I did was approach and interact for a min or two. Although it was me she really liked, mones somehow influenced her.
I think mones just brought out what was already there and was going to be there
For personal use, I try to keep a similar signature for my routine life, one that reflects both my natural personality and how I prefer to be perceived.
The program P51 mentioned is something I designed after reading several posts about mones losing their “punch” over time if people get exposedt to the same signal too long or often. It’s a long term program designed for creating a deep and lasting impression in the people that are a regular part of your life by both keeping the impact of a fresh mix, but with similar directions.
I suspect this can be good for testing purposes as well. Since the program I designed can/should allow for one day off per week and one week off per month (either from mones in general or from your particular mix). One could use these off days for solo testing of a specific MX or putative and get good feedback. The sudden change in signature should actually make the effects of a new product more obvious.
I was considering this issue recently when some discussions about RU status came up and I thought about how being too devoted to testing experimental products could interfere with reaping the benefits of consistent use of solid reliable mixes.
I think that if somebody is following the progression model or some personally tailored variant of it. They could still do testing of an MX on the days and weeks off from their usual mix. The dramatic change would not only make the effects of the MX more obvious and easier to notice, but would help in priming the people in your social circle for a more high impact effect when you go back to whatever stage of the progression you’re on.
Case in point, while the program can be modified based on your own personal desires the way I structured it was based on A314 and going for a well rounded sort of social/attraction enhancement. The respect/alpha vibe is always central however so suddenly changing it up to test one of the None split pack products, or Project UF MX’s (which are very high None) would make not only those products more pronounced by way of contrast against a more Rone/Nol based signature on your on days. But after testing a high none product during my off week, I can go back to my respect based progression and in all liklihood see those effects stand out more.
It follows consistency in as much as that the people with whom I regularly interact will get a progressively stronger respect based product about 70-80% of the time. But…can keep them guessing a little bit.
Amazing thoughts rad! I never considered using off days to test mixes that would contrast with what I’d been wearing as my “usual”. that makes so much sense!
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Steve) I love my mones as an enhancer and decided to wear my mx388 IS/IO combo cut in half from the initial meeting with 2 sprays IG on my date. I know its a tool and not a substitute, but who uses a screwdriver to pound in a nail after using a hammer first. I have enough confidence in my one on one dating ability that I really could have went sans mones. I was just curious as to peoples opinions on the subject. I would think that there could be some sub-conscience bells that could go off that it was like wait a minute here who is this guy again. I know your personality is technically what gets you laid long term or in the short term for that matter and mones for surely don’t get you laid, but that comfort you need to create that is so crucial may take longer if your switching your sigs regularly.
I wasn’t paying attention to others sorry I was on a date. I got winked at by the waitress a couple times too 