Thanks for the additional info Hank as this helps open my eyes a little more on how the P74 works.
PHEROMONE: P74 (40 mcg), final solo test
OBSERVATIONS:
The Man and I went to a poly support group meeting last night. During the drive in, I realized that The Man has been in my cloud of P74 during the days of testing. Yikes! No wonder I couldn’t get any sexual arousal out of him for the past three days. I made a mental note to put on some androstenone when we got back home.
At the meeting, there were a bunch of new people. A couple of them were rather nervous, but after conversing with them for a few minutes, they seemed to relax and enjoy the group setting.
Talked to lots of people. Conversation flowed very smoothly, and people were quite willing to share their stories. Overall, the atmosphere was very relaxed and people seemed engaged in their conversations.
After three hours of spraying on P74, I noticed that I was feelings rather amorous towards The Man. Normally we don’t express public displays of affection, but for some reason, I felt compelled to hold his hand and rub his neck. I also kept admiring how sexy he looked.
Alas, I was getting very tired, so we left. The lack of sleep from my night at my friend’s house was catching up to me. The Man drove home, while I zonked out. When we got home, I immediately put on some androstenone (non-AD product). But, I was too tired. I actually went to bed after having a beer with The Man.
ASSESSMENT:
I was hoping to see people invading my space, but none happened. The very first time I used P74 (37.5 mcg), I experienced lots of women invading my personal space and grabbing my arm. However, I paired it with P75 (3.75 mcg). Last night I used a slightly higher dosage of P74 solo, and I wasn’t getting any invasion of space, not even a backslap. I mean, what do I need to do to get people to touch me? Seriously, touch me, damn it! (Hahahaha!)
The one hit I can count on is me feeling amorous with The Man right before we left the meeting. After 3 hours wearing P74, I suddenly wanted to rub his neck and hold his hand. It felt good, and I’ve never done that at any other meeting. Clearly there is some self-effects going on, and this might also account why my friend nearly friendzoned me on his couch, but was extremely sexual in bed. At some point, as P74 wanes, the experience feels sexual.
I was going to use P74 solo at another social event today, but I realized it’s with people I already know, friends I’ve been hanging with for at least a year or so. Maybe it’s time to start pairing P74 with something. I’ll review my arsenal and come up with something that hopefully will get someone other than The Man touching me. (Never thought that would ever be a goal of mine!)
Overall, P74 is really good for making friends and starting conversations. Again, it’s a different sort of vibe than IO and IH. With P74, everybody seems to be on your side and conversation tends to be more thought provoking. This would be helpful for anyone, including gay men, establish rapport when meeting new people. Based on what I experienced, 20 mcg seems more than sufficient. I don’t see any reason to go higher, at least for me.
It also lasts about 3-4 hours. As it starts waning around the 3 hour mark, I noticed that I feel more sexual, especially when using higher doses. Maybe at the 3 hour mark, that’s when to add TUTH to give the waning effects an additional sexual boost.
Great report. I find 10 MCG around there to be most useful and I can steer it pretty easy at this does any way I want.
Thanks! Do you think you can experiment with P74 at 30-40 mcg for me? I want to see if you experience any sexual feelings after 3-4 hours of application. I’m curious about this aspect of P74.
OK I will try to for you. I have P74 in 2.5 MCG and 25 MCG a spray so I will try it out when I can.
PHEROMONE: 3 sprays IO to my neck
I know this is very mundane, but I wanted to see how the social aspects of IO compares to P74. The Man and I went to a monthly social gathering of folks in our profession. At first these gatherings were fun, but I’ve been tepid towards them lately because I rather drink beer and talk about things other than work, but people often want to pick my brains about something. If it were up to me, I’ll skip these gatherings, but The Man said I need to go for networking. I figure I’ll try a high dose of IO and see if I can steer conversations to other topics.
OBSERVATIONS:
After spraying on IO, The Man and I drove to the meeting. Didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary. No excessive chatter in the car.
By the time we got to the meeting, I noticed my mood was elevated. I actually looked forward to seeing the guys there. In fact, I gave everyone a very warm smile. I felt like I was around some of my best friends. Even a guy I sometimes butt heads with looked genuinely happy to see me.
After ordering beer and food, some guys wanted to talk to me about work stuff. I smoothly referred their questions to The Man who was sitting next to me. In fact, one guy latched onto The Man, and they engaged in a very detailed conversation about work stuff.
The guy next to me started talking about work stuff too, but I immediately asked him about his recent hunting trips. He then went on a long monologue about an elk he tracked. We talked about other game meats and butchering. In fact, I think that was the only thing we talked about while I was there.
After a couple hours, everyone started to leave, so we left too.
ASSESSMENT:
I’ was concerned about using 3 sprays of IO because of its tendency for empty chatter, but that didn’t happen. I didn’t embarrass myself at all by being a blabber mouth, which I had done when I used IO with IShine. IO solo still had an uplifting feel. I felt happy and in good spirits. Without IShine, I was able to control the urge to talk up a storm.
The Man and the guy he was talking with were definitely within my cloud, about 4 feet. They were really talking up a storm, and I was glad to see The Man handling that initial question for me.
The main thing I noticed was that I had trouble looking at people in the eye. Not sure why, but I recall deliberately diverting my eyes to avoid eye contact when I was talking. I could maintain eye contact when the other person was talking, but not when I was talking. Strange effect on me.
Overall, IO is a good product for when I need to change my attitude about a social event, especially with folks with whom I might have only a superficial connection. Might be interesting to see how IO pairs with P74, especially when meeting new people and wanting to establish a quick meaningful rapport.
The uplifting effects of IO seemed to last about 3-4 hours.
PHEROMONE: 3 sprays IH to my neck
I had a date with my friend, the school teacher. We planned to shoot pool. I also planned on having a chat with him about the possibility of just being friends. While the sex is awesome(!), there are some subtle red flags that make me think that I won’t fully get what I want out of the deal.
The most important thing is our relationship narrative. Despite trying to develop a long distance relationship with a guy on the East Coast, he’s monogamous minded. I’m poly minded. His relationship narrative won’t work for me, and vice versa.
He also doesn’t fully understand my relationship with The Man, which would make it difficult for him to integrate me into his circle of friends. I’ve already included him on a couple outings with friends. I even had him meet The Man. He was even surprised that I would tell my friends that The Man and I had an open relationship. He said that isn’t something he could do, which is probably why he hasn’t at all hinted about having me meet his friends. This isn’t the type of FWB I wanted. I don’t want to be anyone’s secret or be compartmentalized. So, in true fashion, I wanted to lay everything on the table. Hence, IH.
OBSERVATIONS:
I picked him up at his home and drove to a gay bar with a pool table. During the drive, we chatted about activities we did over this past weekend. He spent time with his friends, going out for dinner, dancing, and such. I spent my days working.
At the bar, I bought us drinks while he racked the table. I broke the rack and managed to get a ball in. While impressive, my overall game sucked. We played two rounds. I lost both. (I miss my A314!)
After that, I bought another round of drinks and we settled on a couch to talk. That’s when I brought up the possibility of just being friends. We had a very intimate, yet dispassionate, discussion about our interactions - pros, cons, what we liked, what we were getting out it, what we weren’t getting out of it.
He also admitted that he needed to figure out what to do about his long distance relationship, either keep it going or end it. In reality, neither of them can move for at least 5 more years because of their careers. He’s planning to spend Christmas with him, so he’ll likely come to a decision during that time.
He was also open to the idea of integrating me into his circle of friends. But if we continued our sexual relationship, he would have to be open about that with them. I would insist on it.
During the entire time we talked, I kept my arm around him and made sure we had physical contact. After an hour of talking, we left the bar since it was a school night. When we got to his house, I told him that I was going inside. He said he had hoped I would. We went to his bedroom, cuddled, and made out.
After a while, I offered to leave since he needed to wake up early in the morning for classes. While getting dressed, I asked him when he’d like to get together again. He tentatively said something about this coming weekend, but I realized that it might be best if we met again after he returned from his trip visiting his friend. He agreed that was the most pragmatic thing to do.
Before heading out the door, I mentioned that this might be our last time together. He accepted it. We hugged, and I left.
ASSESSMENT:
IH is clearly different than IO and P74. During our conversation, I felt completely safe, and I would say the feeling was mutual. We both took risks in sharing what we liked about each other, but also acknowledged that some things were lacking. Even though we talked about very personal matters, the conversation was completely dispassionate and objective. This quality seems to be lacking in IO and P74.
There’s really something about IH. I can’t explain the deep bonding I experienced with him. I felt very trusting towards him. I could trust him with my feelings, and I could trust that he would respond compassionately rather than defensively. I also think the feeling was mutual. We both listened and did our best to understand what the other person was experiencing.
IH would be a good product when it comes time talk about very difficult topics, such as a potential breakup, or simply providing constructive feedback. I can’t say for sure how long IH lasted because even when I woke up this morning, I found myself thinking that he and I should just be friends. We were probably too afraid to make that decision last night, but it’s something that feels right. I don’t have any sense of anxiety when I think about that. So while IH may have worn off, the dispassion and ability to make sound decisions may continue for a while longer.
Next time I see him, I will wear IH and A314. Yeah, there’s a risk of fallout. Screw it. He can deal with it himself. I’m just not willing to lose another game of pool!
Very nice report and I thought you lost it at first when I saw 3 sprays to the neck. So do you think 1 spray of IH around the neck would be ok or useable? I love your reports because you always seem to shed light on things in more detail and how they work.
I knew this was going to be a difficult conversation because I really enjoy our physical intimacy and would hate to give that up. But, when I look at the big picture, I’m not getting as much satisfaction out of it like he is. I’m also very transparent in my friendships, and I wanted to make sure I laid everything on the table without any hidden agendas.
Yeah, last time I had IH on my neck (two sprays), I was a bit chatty. When I apologized for being chatty, he said that he didn’t mind. He actually enjoyed hearing me talk about things I was passionate about. I figured three sprays would keep me focused about what I really wanted. Again, I felt like I had nothing to hide.
No, I probably wouldn’t recommend three sprays for normal use. One spray is likely sufficient for daily use or hanging out with friends, though I’ve been mostly using two sprays. Whether you use it on your neck or arms might depend on the situation. If you’re going to break up with someone, then use it on your neck to make sure you remain focused on your needs and not get swayed by the other person’s emotional outburst, if any. If you’re in sales and want to fish out information from clients, use it on your arms at a lower dosage.
I also realized that he was in my mone cloud for a couple hours before we chatted. This probably helped both of us remain calm during the discussion. The conversation flowed very smoothly and effortlessly. Neither of us held back our thoughts.
Thanks for your feedback, Justin. I’ve realized I should do more solo testing. My next test is Ammo. I’ve used it only in combo, so it’s time I use it solo. I just got a 5 mL vial in World scent. I also got TAC, 7.5 mcg.
PHEROMONE: 2 sprays P86 (10 mcg/spray)
My artist friend (post #143) asked me out to a movie. It was an independent art film by Laurie Anderson, The Heart of The Dog. The last time we hung out together, we chatted about poetry and art, so this movie was right up my alley. This was our fifth time meeting him and the second time one-on-one. Here’s a list of mones he’s been exposed to previously:
• First Meeting: P80
• Second Meeting: A314 and IShine
• Third Meeting (one-on-one): Ammo, P130
• Fourth Meeting: P74
It’s been all over the place, but that was unintentional since he wasn’t necessarily the intended target. Despite a strong urge to kiss him the last time we hung out together, I didn’t have any romantic feelings towards him. It was purely sexual. I didn’t follow up with him to see where he was at, but when he asked me out, I was pleasantly surprised. I figured this would be a good testing ground for P86.
OBSERVATIONS:
Before picking him up, he said some friends were going to see Star Wars later in the day, several hours after our movie in early afternoon. He invited me to join him, but I declined since I planned to see it with The Man later in the week.
I picked him up at his home. He was in very good spirits, as he usually is whenever I’ve seen him. We decided to eat lunch before the movie, so we drove to a tavern near the theater. During the drive, we talked quite a bit. Conversation flowed smoothly. We seemed to find things to talk about.
At the tavern, conversation turned a bit more personal. I shared that I was poly, something he wasn’t aware of. I also shared my experience with the school teacher, something that has been preoccupying my thoughts lately. He also shared about his social anxiety issues and how that has played in his past relationships. So it was an interesting conversation over lunch.
During the conversation, I had an easy time looking him in the eye, and he also looked at me in the eye whenever he spoke. His pupils weren’t dilated, but I did note his pupils were a beautiful shade of light brown, his eyes were seductive, his lips were succulent, and his facial hair was downright sexy.
After lunch we went to the theater. When the movie was over, we still had several hours before I needed to drop him off at another theater so he could watch Star Wars with his friends. We decided to get some ice cream and walk around the neighborhood. During our walk, we talked about sex and the meaning of physical intimacy. He came out to me as being demisexual, a person who requires an emotional connection to feel sexually attracted to someone. So he shared about his previous sex partners and what that was like for him.
We then decided to drive to a bar near the second theater. At the bar, we continued our conversation about sex and relationships. During that time, I kept marveling at how well communicated. We felt very relaxed and very comfortable with each other. There was sufficient trust to share very personal information about ourselves.
Eventually it was time to leave. Before leaving, I headed to the restroom. When I came out, he was standing near the front door. Seeing him standing there, I thought to myself, “He’s incredibly handsome!”
Once we got outside, my friend blurts out, “I’m very sexually attracted to you!” That stopped me in my tracks, and I started laughing. It seemed like a completely random thought that was unrelated to what we talked about earlier. He took my laughter well, and he also started laughing. He agreed that what he said was out of context. (Of course, we had 2 drinks each under our belts.)
When we got in the car, we talked about his statement. I told him I was flattered, but not in a position to act upon it, at least not until I resolve the issue with the school teacher. The mood in the car was very light and jovial, as it was throughout the afternoon. We agreed to let his comment be, and we’ll just be friends for the time being. I dropped him off, and I went home.
ASSESSMENT:
As usual, it’s hard to pick up any discernible hits with gay men, especially in public settings. I just don’t know how they feel until a bit later. However, our conversation was definitely atypical. We touched on a lot of very personal subjects, yet we also viewed them without any sense of judgement. There was genuine interest in each other throughout the entire afternoon.
The main hit I got was when he told me he was sexually attracted to me. No one has told me that while not expecting sex soon thereafter. I think that he told me that because he felt emotionally safe with me.
I also found myself objectifying his physical features and admiring their innate beauty.
So, if there’s anything I could say about P86, I would say it encourages genuine interest in the other person. While hanging out with him, I really wanted to know him, and he wanted to know more about me. We each asked each other lots of questions and we provided very candid responses. I felt like I could talk about anything with him. I’m sure he felt the same way.
Next time I hang out with him, I’ll use P86 solo but at a higher dosage.
PHEROMONE: 1 spray IG (1x)
Other than using IG solo for self effects, I haven’t used it solo in a social situation, so it’s about time. I took Vanadium’s cue (post #25) and used it in a professional setting to ensure I’m respected and taken seriously. Since being reintroduced to pool by my school teacher friend, I’ve been playing regularly and decided to take lessons to improve my game. This is my first pool lesson with a guy I found on the intertubes.
OBSERVATIONS:
I did a single spray of IG to my neck right before leaving the house. During the drive, I felt very confident and happy. I think I felt happy because I was finally doing something for me. The pool lessons were sort of a Christmas gift to myself. However, when I got to the freeway, the traffic was horrible, much more so than normal. But not to worry, I told myself. I’m wearing IG!
At the earliest opportunity, I quickly got off the freeway and took the side streets. I was pretty darn aggressive, weaving in and out of lanes. I found myself getting tense, which I thought was unusual. I often were IG in the car just to ease my road rage, but I realized if there is something I hate more than stupid drivers, it’s being late for an appointment. So, in true fashion of a gentleman, I quickly reviewed all possible options of how my pool teacher may react to my tardiness. As I examined each one, I realized that none of them seemed that bad. If he doesn’t understand that traffic can be horrible during the holidays, then it’ll a clear sign I need a new teacher. I could deal with that. I just had to remind myself that my tardiness is no reflection on me as a person.
I got to the pool hall and met my new teacher (early 60s). He was very warm and appreciative to meet me, as I was appreciative of meeting him. Lessons got underway after a brief recount of my history with playing pool and my goals for taking lessons.
He seemed eager to share with me his knowledge and experience. He provided very good feedback and was very observant of my posture and stance. As we were discussing my stance, he asked, “You’re 5’10” (178 cm), right?" I told him I was actually 5’7" (170 cm). He then said, “Well, you must have a very large presence. You seem much taller!”
The rest of the lesson went well. He gave me very good pointers and several practice drills to do until our next lesson together. At the end of our time, I had to stop him from sharing more information with me. I was getting a bit overloaded!
ASSESSMENT:
Normally I would have chosen A314, but IG was a very good choice. We seemed to have bonded quickly. I felt he was more than willing to take me under his wing. I was especially flattered when he commented that I appeared taller than I really am. I also felt he respected me and didn’t take issue about me being 15 minutes late.
IG is definitely useful when hiring someone for a particular service. I felt I got exactly what I wanted, and some. We had very good rapport, and I felt he was genuinely interested in my success. Any corrections to my stance or to my aim was given with great respect and sincerity.
I have only 1 or 2 more sprays of IG left. I just ordered a 30 mL bottle in World scent. Hopefully I’ll have it before my next lesson. I’ll try 2 sprays next time.
Nice report Hank. IG is just great. However, I get so calm and composed when I use IG however
. It’s in my list of big time anger management products. Do you think your road rage vibe would be reduced or aggravated by wearing two sprays instead of one?
Thanks, Conjurator! I’ve worn 2 sprays of IG while driving. It definitely made me more forgiving of stupid drivers.
Overall, I like IG, but it tends to make me very mellow and sedate when I wear two sprays. Sometimes I don’t feel very social and I just want to be alone, sip brandy, and smoke cigars. Figuratively, of course! Maybe 2 sprays would be fine for one-on-one time with my pool teacher.
Glad I could help
. That looks like a sweet spot for sure! I was asking because I found it strange to get rage effects from IG. One spray just wasn’t enough for you.
Merry christmas, my friend.
PHEROMONE: 3 sprays P86 (10 mcg/spray)
Had a date with the artist. Last time I wore 2 sprays of P86. I wanted to see what the effects of a higher dosage would be.
OBSERVATIONS:
After spraying, I noticed an immediate surge in self-confidence. Overall, I felt very good about myself. Prior to meeting my friend, I had to run an errand. I just noticed that I was in a very good mood and there was purpose and swagger in my walk. I smiled very readily at people walking by, and they smiled back. If I had to describe the feeling, it would be elation.
When I met up with my friend, he seemed genuinely happy to see me. We got into my car and drove to a nearby bar for happy hour and pool. Yeah, he kicked my butt at pool, which is another reason why I’m taking pool lessons. (I rather win from skill rather than intimidation, as is the case when I wear A314.)
Our time at the bar was very candid. We cracked lots of jokes at the other’s expense. Lots of teasing.
After the bar, we walked to a nearby restaurant for dinner. Conversation there got a bit more intense. We talked about physical intimacy and sex. He shared with me some of the pain he experienced in a previous relationship. I empathized with him. The odd thing about our conversation was that we found humor in all of it, regardless of the topic. We even hung out at the restaurant talking for at least 30 minutes after we paid our bill.
After the restaurant, I drove him home. I let him know I’m interested in being physically intimate with him, but not just yet. I still need to resolve the situation with the school teacher before I’m in a head space to move forward. He agreed and looked forward to when the time is right for me.
ASSESSMENT:
I’ve read other people’s reports on P86. They describe it as a beautifier. I don’t have that same assessment. I stand by my previous statement. P86 makes me very interested in the other person. The conversations with my friend were very smooth, effortless, jovial, and flowing. We always found something to talk about and were very interested in what the other person was saying. It was more than just hanging on every word. We both asked questions to help us understand more about what the other person was saying.
Again, there seemed to be a strong, genuine interest in each other. Not necessarily sexual, even though we talked about sex and sexual fantasies. It was more about having a greater understanding of how the other person thinks and sees the world. There is a true appreciation of the other person as a human being. Whether this is a beautifying effect, I don’t know. But when I look at my friend, I see him as a human being, someone with a tapestry of flaws and strengths. All of his quirks and experiences make him who he is, and I appreciate him just the way he is.
As for any physical touch, there wasn’t any, though he did place his foot against mine while at the restaurant. The only blatant physical touch was a prolonged hug in the car when I dropped him off. (This seems to be the case with gay men. At least for me, I’m a bit self-conscious about public displays of affection unless I’m in a gay-friendly environment. Even then, I’m rather modest about it.)
3 sprays (30 mcg) seems to be my sweet spot. I like the self effects of self-confidence and elation. It really put me in a very good mood during the entire time. It also seems to last about 4 hours. No sense of crash or tiredness afterwards.
I guess the next step is to test it in a large group setting rather than one-on-one. It won’t be for a couple weeks before I can try this out again.
PHEROMONE: 4 sprays P86 (10 mcg/spray), final solo test
Had an LGBT social event at a local microbrewery. Debated whether to test IG or P86. I opted for P86 since my artist friend (posts #170 and #175) was going to be there. I’ll make this my final solo test and try IG solo at another event.
OBSERVATIONS:
Got to the tavern and a dozen people were already there. People seemed genuinely happy and upbeat. Of course, it is the holidays, so not too surprising. As more people arrived, I introduced myself to some new folks I haven’t seen before. No discernible hits per se, but I had a very easy time talking with people. Conversation flowed very smoothly, and I always found something to talk about with them.
One guy asked me some very personal questions, which I didn’t mind at all. He seemed genuinely interested in me. Of course, once he found out I was partnered, his body language changed immediately. I brought him back to rapport by continuing my questions of interest since I was genuinely interested in his line of work. He seemed to loosen up and go with the flow after that.
Another guy I’ve been interested in for a while also seemed very easy to talk with. In the past, I had a very difficult time sustaining a conversation with him, regardless of the pheromone I was wearing. I’ve come to the conclusion that he might be on the spectrum because he always seemed socially uncomfortable. Despite his good looks, he tends to hang by himself a lot. But, I was able to keep the conversation flowing and he seemed much more comfortable talking with me.
There were several other guys I had a very easy time talking with. Conversation was very lighthearted and festive. Some of the regulars also came up to me and wanted to know more about the work I do, something they haven’t done in the past.
My artist friend showed up a bit late because he had another engagement. He seemed very happy to see me. As we talked, I noticed his eyes were moist and his pupils were dilated. I think the attraction level is ramping up!
ASSESSMENT:
I like P86. I like how easy it is to strike up a conversation with people. They seem genuinely interested in me, and I’m genuinely interested in them, so conversation flows very smoothly. I also feel confident and socially at ease.
I know other users report of a beautifying effect, how other people seem more beautiful. I didn’t experience that type of visual effect. Instead, I become interested in people, interested in knowing more about them, especially if I find them emotionally and intellectually attractive. However, there isn’t any sexual interest. It doesn’t at all feel sexual for me. It’s really about wanting to know someone as a person.
For me, this is a good pheromone to use in a variety of situations. I love how socially at ease I feel, very similar to P80, but this pheromone lasts much longer, at least 4 hours. I feel confident and upbeat.
P86 might also have a fallout effect, as I witnessed in my artist friend. He’s been exposed to this pheromone three times, and the third time seemed to be the charm. He’s the kind of guy I would be interested in dating. I’m a big sucker for intellectuals. Him being a talented painter is a big plus for me. (For the record, my artist friend is also poly, though he’s single. He has met The Man and is aware of my school teacher friend.)
As for dosage, I don’t see any reason to use more than 30 mcg for general socializing. Since there’s no sexual component to P86, I’ll have to experiment in pairing it with TUTH, Ammo, or A314.
Thank you so much for your detailed journal, HankBuddy! I’ve been reading it for a few days now as I prepare to step back into the world of pheromones (it’s been several years since I last used them.) When I first joined the forum, I don’t think there were any other gay guys on here, so it’s great to see more journals and threads dedicated to examining mones, gender, and sexuality so thoughtfully and openly.
I’ve only got A314 in my arsenal, and maybe some residue of IS in my spray bottle, but those are years old so might not be very effective anymore. I just placed an order to get a punch of the instant mones to go while I begin (re)experimenting. I think we have similar temperaments (reading your description of IG’s effect on you could have been written by me), so I suspect I could use your experiences as guidance to some extent.
What makes my situation unique is that I’m a transgender gay guy, so seeing how much of what you and other guys experience translate to me will be interesting. Once I get my order, I’m going to start up my journal to help other gay FTM guys out there ![]()
Busy New Year huh, HankBuddy? ![]()
We miss you already. ![]()
I second that!
Thank you for your kind comments, Zester. I appreciate you taking the time to read my journal. Yeah, I’m hoping other folks from the LGBT community contribute to this forum. Sexuality is a very broad spectrum, and my experience can only be applied to gay males in a similar situation.
I would be very interested in your experience as a gay FTM. The pheromones that I’ve been using should work in your situation as well. In fact, the same pheromones should work on you as well.
The Instant line is a good place to start to get your feet wet again. IH is one of my favorites! I like the bonding and emotional connection I develop with my friends when I’m wearing it. IO is a good one for general socializing, especially at a party. I don’t use IShine as often as I used to, but I generally pair it with IH or IO.
IG is still an enigma to me. I like the self effects of grounded confidence and the respect that I get from other people, but it makes me a bit stodgy if I use more than one spray of regular strength. I wonder if I already produce a fair amount of androsterone already. Depending on the guy I’m with, I can also come across as a father figure, especially if the guy as some daddy issues to work out. I still plan to experiment a bit more with IG. I just have to wait for the right opportunity.
Ammo is also very good. I didn’t write about it yet, but I used P86 and Ammo with my artist friend. Man, did he get frisky! Wow! It was like the floodgates opened up.
When A314 is available, definitely pick up a bottle of it. I see lots of potential with that one. I haven’t worn it lately only because I haven’t seen the need to impress anyone lately. No new dates, which is actually a good thing. I need a break!
Anyway, I’m being a bit methodical about my testing now. Soon I’ll pick up TUTH in World scent and test out the combos some of the straight guys have been experimenting with lately.
I’ll be definitely on the lookout for your journal! Would love to compare notes with you. ![]()