sorry examine, i dont speak your crazy blogger forum nerd language. ffs?
collecting baseball cards is hardly the same thing here. try an analogy that has some merit.
we are trying to have a civil debate about the addictiveness of the products advertised on this site. No need to drop f-bombs.
But I doubt you will see anything from tisha or steveO about your language, since you agree with them on this topic.
Read this very carefully.
Show me where I said it was impossible. I recall saying I agree with Gegogi. I recall saying Cant. I recall saying why you cant. I do not recall saying impossible. Suddenly I am not a member here entitled to a opinion or entitled to agree with another member.
You have also misjudged me in this thread on more then one occasion. You have stated lies about me. Called me a name or two and ignored anything anyone else has written.
I have to ask do you have some sort of problem with me ? Have I done something to you that pissed you off ? Do I threaten you in some way ? Because all I have asked you do is read and present your findings.
I dont care what you think of me. I can give a rats ass really but I do take offense when people give misinformation about me. You have contradicted yourself again and again in this thread. I do take offense and my patience only go’s so far. I suggest you keep that in mind
Tisha
examine, just stop. I have neither the time, or the inclination to oppose your ridiculous arguments.
first off. I don’t have a blog, as you can see, Ive been here long, but my post count isn’t high. ffs, is about as common as lol. do you know what lol is? are you a nerd for knowing what that is? ffs = for fucks sake. as for my language. Im a grown ass man, I can say as I please since I live in a free country. If you don’t like my fucking language you can fuck right off and put me on your god damn ignore list. there is nothing civil coming out of you. you are spewing claims, with absolutely no proof or even an explanation, you’re just pointing fingers and rambling. as for Instant Shine being addicting, prior to me buying ISx4 and a to go bottle before that, I had not used IShine in 2 years. So there is your answer on that spray. as for pheromones. While I was in the philippines for work, I ran out of pheromones, and went on for the remainder of the summer without, didn’t even think about it til I got home and saw a bottle and thought ‘hey, I should buy some more’. so there’s my claim. wheres yours?
“a name or two” i can think of 1 name (joker) which is hardly the worst thing someone can call someone else, but show me where the second name was…
I HAD no problem with you until you told that honest man who was just trying to get some clarification about the effects that using these products might have on him that it is impossible to be addicted to pheromones. I know you didnt say impossible, but gegori (spelling?) said impossible, and you said you agreed. Is that enough proof of you using the word impossible? I think it is…
we have an ignore list? where!!!???
I am still waiting to for an explanation/proof that pheromones are addicting man. I really would like to know where you came up with this. do explain?
Are some of my posts getting deleted? I swear some of them are. I cant find the last 2 that I have posted.
Alright enough PAE! I’ve asked you to please accept that everybody has an opinion and as opposed to it as you might believe they are entitled to it. The name calling via PM’s and this and other threads is not tolerable.
I don’t work for andro, but I think it is impossible to be addicting to something we naturally produce. There is only one way that is possible and that is if a substance chemically enhances a component neurologically, thus making us ‘want’. ei drugs. I do not feel pheromones do that.
Sorry guys I have had enough of the argument and name calling from everyone. Having an opinion is one thing but resorting to name calling and hate speech is just not what PheroTalk is all about.
I encourage anybody to come along and post differences and yes even discourage pheromone use, talking about how terrible it is. It is obvious I would have a difference of opinion as I am in the employ of Androtics, but that does not give anybody the right to call other members names or flat out lie about other users.
Please keep posting your arguments and discussions and lets all be civil here.
well I think you should unban him or at least approve any posts that might possibly contain his explanation on why he believes pheromones are addicting.
Actually sometimes it is a bandwagon effect of the forum, you start being really stupid, or typing really bad things, your rep will plummet. Not from Tisha or Steve0 but from everyone. I am sorry but your arguments maybe valid, but in sighting riot or resulting to slander is not a good way to backup your point.
From other forums I read and post on, writing something completely absurd would result in a warning, two such posts or comments in 30 days and you are in the reader’s club for 30 days, where you cannot post. Then after your observation time, if you make a poor post (not just negative, but really poor, such as name calling, posting just to get a fight started, or making false accusations) your ability to post would be pulled permanently. Granted this was based on the level of poor judgment used by the user, based on the moderator’s feelings of the situation or menstrual cycle.
If all else fails follow the commonsense rule you should have learned as a kid:
“If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”
Maybe starting a Pheromone user’s recovery group would be a good idea? for those who are addicted and wish to stop using synthetic pheromones.
*A person cannot stop using natural pheromones because that would only result from death.
I however feel there are much worse and habit forming addictions out there, than pheromones. As of right now I am not aware of pheromones causing any side effects that are deadly; Such as cancer, weight gain, weight loss, hair loss, teeth loss, bone decay. Such as addictions to Smoking, Crack, Meth, or choclate. The only problem may be monetary, but you are not likely to double mortgage the house and spend your entire life savings to double down on black, trying to win back all your money. Heck if nothing more you can spray on blot on the last of your supply and go downtown and beg for enough money to buy your next bottle, of Pheromones, to get your fix on; and the pheromones could help you do it.
Now that’s a hardcore user!
Because I have absolute confidence in examine and respect your opinion sir. The user is placed into moderation. I will not release accusatory posts or name calling ones though.
Every one is entitled to their opinions, but childlike behavior is not appreciated. Name calling and insults are bannable.
I’m joining that group! I once joined “Sex Addicts Anonymous” and Good God man was that ever fun?
See if his argument was that collecting/wearing pheromones were equal to collecting cards or gambling (addiction), then I would agree with him, but he is stating that the actual pheromones themselves are addicting. Id like proof of that or at least an explanation on how he came up with that. Thats all Im asking.
For your info SteveO and Tisha had nothing to do with your reps fluctuating. I accidentally positive repped you, when I fully intended it to be a neg! And even though I’m repped out for the day now, I will be back tomorrow to take some of those points back!
When you were called on it, you didn’t even bother to answer and only became more argumentative. Let me guess, you were talking about experience in potty training right?
Tisha is an unpaid volunteer, and if you bothered to look and read her posts before making such an accusation, you would have seen that she has talked about Androtics products that did not work for her many times.
FYI PAE, I doubt that anybody in this forum respects you or your opinion! I certainly have no respect for you and think you’re nothing more than an person who likes to confront others and be argumentative.
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I started to dispute each and every statement you made in your posts, then realized that it doesn’t do any good to ague with you.
Maybe you should learn WTF you’re talking about before you go opening your mouth and contradicting and insulting some of the most respected and knowledgeable members in this forum!
Once again I will ask that ALL NAME CALLING STOPS. I don’t want communications to break down to a level of hatred and such. We cannot allow ourselves to become what we dislike the most.
So please everyone needs to stop name calling and lets have us an old fashioned debate. Everyone is entitled to their opines, regardless if I or you disagree.
Just a couple of comments about what just happened to put things into perspective.
First of all, this guy was a troll. This is instantly apparent from his 1st post in this thread. PAE calls into question the opinion of five of the very best testers (thousands of tests under their collective belts) this site has to offer offer-- he wants somebody else to chime in-- who would that be? Somebody with far less experience, somebody who has used IS four times?? That doesn’t make any sense, but then, a troll is not here to make sense, a troll is only here to disrupt. And that’s what he did. To jack folks around as much as possible while avoiding getting the boot. That’s why he would act so superior (“I have neither the time, nor the inclanation to address you, worm…:” Thank you, Gen. Jack D. Ripper!) and then invoke “I’m trying to have a civil discussion here…” Civil, my ass.
He was one of those trolls I hate most, the one who is out to save me from myself. Gimme a break! Seeing “The TRUTH” under his name should’ve also given us a clue of his real motive-- though he claimed to have none.
I did love that moment when he briefly had a rep of -16, that made me laugh. If I knew who did it they’d get reps from me. 
Anyway, back to the civil discourse. I have to go reconnect my Instant Shine IV, I’m feeling jittery and the room is spinning…
Wow…that was like..some day time drama playing out right in front of me!
Lol..I can’t even believe it made it this far. When I first saw this thread, I was thinking, how the hell did the thread make it to 6 pages?! Then I looked at PAE’s posts and went, ohhh, so that’s what happened. 
Really, this is over terminology. Addiction or Dependancy. Whatever you wanna call it, if you’re afflicted by it, you don’t give a shit what it’s called, you just want out.