mones can’t make people do what they don’t want to do, or else, I would get laid every night with the DIHL’s I get, lol
I’ve wondered about this myself. I wouldn’t compare wearing pheromones to getting a haircut or wearing suit, those are obvious and overt means of presentation. I do however liken it to plastic surgery albeit not as permanent. The fact is that natural pheromones are a biological mechanism to communicate information about ourselves (including our fitness as a potential mate) to others on a subconscious level.
Diet and exercise help us display our natural genetic potential, artificial pheromones it could be argued; disguise it. Likewise with visual clues that are artificially induced. A woman get’s lipo and implants and she achieves the hip/waist/bust ratio that triggers a a male to recognize her as being an ideal genetic partner for breeding. Yet that slim and busty woman’s genes may likely carry a slow metabolism and small breasts. So her presentation is not an enhanced way of showing her potential, it’s altering it entirely.
If it is not making the future kids or spouse unhappy, how bad is it really to end up with a partner with a bit less great genes lookswise?
Half the stuff we on average are attracted to is not that relevant in today’s society anyway. A supermuscular guy with perfect skin and hair but average brain may have been a better provider/protector in the stone age but a guy who is slim with a few pimples on his back and lanky hair but smart enough to use shoulder pads, hairgel and pheros is probably a better provider/protector now.
If I’m attracted to a guy, I don’t care if other people think he looks like a retard or whatever, it’s my guy not theirs.
I dunno I could also say that the use of pheromones go hand in hand with the reason people divorce. Lots of people claim that divorce is due to the fact that
we never show our true selves to the one we love in an effort to please the one we love. Once they got married all the fallacies of the marriage start to set in because they both feel they don’t have to put up that front anymore and let all bad tendencies and habits and characters flaws hang out.
I just think in the case that if you need to wear pheros to get along with the gal or guy your dating in terms of bonding and attraction theres definitely something wrong there. I myself use mones with my mom to avoid the intense verbal fights we have but shes my mom and we both know how each other is completely.
Well one cannot compare drugs and pheromones, because drugs make the subject incapable of expressing his/hers will while pheromones change one’s appearence.Yet if one totally unaceptable mating partner ( say old bump heavy drinker guy ) uses pheromones - well this will not make some young hot chick to jump on him and have sex with him on the spot.When I used alot of the most sexually attractive pheromones - androstenone - around some girls with bfs they gave me lots of IOI but at the end called theyr boyfriends as to have some evening randevou and not going with me to my place.So I was deffinately being percieved as sexier but they decided to have sex not with me but with their boyfriends.Free will was present witch is not the case if u make the disgusting thing to drug some girl with tranquilants or get her really drunk as to get laid with her.
As for the scale from 1 to 100 - although this sounds good as a theory - actually noone can say what and how gives you the points.Gome girls will do anything for money and if u don’t have it - even with the best pheros u don’t have a chance with those girls.Or some girls like mutual understanding more than physical appearence and sexual attraction.So even if u’re super hot male stripper with lots of pheros on you - this won’t make anything for u unless u’re her soulmate.So the theory of points is hard to be proved cause every person has his own standarts and not always only the pheromones will make the difference.And when it comes to what is more point gaining - the new car, the suit, the nice conversation or the pheromones when picking up women - one can never say.It depends on the situation, on the person ext.But if u drug the girl - u get laid at 100%.Every time.So drugs and pheromones cannot be put in one cathegory.One is enchancer while the other is a way to make a person unable to protect him/herself and without any free will and to become potential victim of any abuse.
I guess from a “mind control” stand point pheros do no harm. But if you were to get into how it affects you on a psychopharmacology level then someone could make a case that these pheros are drugs being used on them without their permission, since they are considered inhalations.
I’m not sure about the ethics of giving someone drugs without their permission, but I’d imagine it’s not ethical. I could see this being something that could easilly be taken to court if people were aware of them.
I don’t think that this could easely be taken to court.First pheromones have been around for about 20 years or so and never heard of a trial.Second pheromones are found in people’s sweat and are present no matter if one adds some additional ones or not.So people are exposed to pheromones eighther way.And because pheros are natural compound of sweat and not mind control using them may not be considered unlawful 'cause people are producing pheromones and exposed to them all the time so adding some more is not making people to be exposed to somethink that they are not usually exposed and if the free will of a person is perserved he/she cannot be considered being made uncapable to defend against some abuse.Some pheromones on some grandpa would not make all the hot chicks have sex with hime, while the same grandpa if he drugs some hot chick - he will have what ever he wants withher without her being able to do anything to stop him.
Yes, pheromones are present so it shouldn’t make a big fuss. But perhaps someone took into account these were synthesized. They could make a case of it because even if it is a molecule found in the body it still wasn’t produced by the body, and there have cases of pheromone OD because someone isn’t suppose to have that amount in their body. If for some reason they were to get hit with Beta-nol and felt upset or sad they could make a case out of it.
Pheromones don’t induce mind control, but they can change the way we react and are still concidered drugs because they work with neurotransmitters to induce a different mood. Whether or how the person reacts to the mood or not would determine if they felt so wrong about it that they’d sue.
The fact is pheros aren’t mind control, but they are a drug and drugs without consent are unethical.
I get no freaking reactions from pheros, whether soemone wears something like A314, AMMO, Instant sexiness, since the influence is so subtle.
If I don’t find someone attractive from 50 feet away, pheromones most likely won’t change that view. It hasn’t for me… I wonder why some people get strong reactions, esp females, but not others…
I couldn’t tell ya. Some people just don’t get the effects. I learned today in Psychopharmacology class that calcium helps with reproducing neurotransmitters and helps them to work better.
How much calcium do you have in your diet?
Or it could be a genetic thing. Your family line may not have developed those neurotransmitters in a way where they affect you.
Women get more of a strong reaction because they have been programmed to judge a lot of things based on smell. There have been studies that have shown women view men more appealing if they have on cologne or smell nice vs having nothing and vs smell repulsive, which they shy away from or get repulsed. It’s a funny thing tho, when we get to that time of the month women tend have a lesser sense of smell because they are getting rid of their eggs and have no need to find a mate. This also happens to women who take birth control, except with women on the pill they tend to smell out the wrong type of guy (one who’s immune system is like their own and could inevitably lead to bad health problems or being bearen). It’s ridiculous some of the stuff that’s so important due to smell. For men it doesn’t affect them as much, but there are pheros that can be crippling to a man, such as Androsteinone which can cause depression in some men. Other than that pheromones are usually up to the guy to produce because it’s the women who will be most affected by them and decide if she’s willing to take you to bed or just be your friend.
Actually the law and different regulations do determine witch substance is a drug and witch is not.Since pheromones are not banned for sale all over the world and they are present in one’s sweat anyway - they can be considered supplements.And the fact that they are clearly not mind control and have do not harm people around make them not equal to drugs and druging someone.As for the neurotransmitters - well such reactions can be obtained even without pheromonal stimuli.For instance naked beautiful woman can alter a heterosexual male’s body chemistry.And even can change his behaviour even without single drop of pheromones.Does that mean that every heterosexual man will be willing to act on that urge - no.Does that mean that nearly 99% of the men will have body functional reactions ( highering the testosteron, gettin an erection. not being able to concentrate, having sonsistent sexual thoughts ext. ) - yes most of them will be affected.And what about a picture of a beutyful naked woman?
And one more thing - when something is approved to be purchised freely using it is not a crime.