High school senior seeing little from PUA and pheromones: is it worth continuing?

This PUA stuff and pheromones ordeal isn’t working for me. I even kept a journal, yet seen little results. I have two hypothesis why I can’t get girls. Either the school is superficial, or the other stuff isn’t working at all and I have no hope.

I’m thinking about just riding through my senior year going to no homecoming (yet again) and skipping prom. I thought I talked to girls very well, but I later find out that they think very very different from what I thought. It’s like when I think they like me, they don’t. Even when they show the body language or they say they’re going to hang out; in their mind, they don’t. They just want to pull your strings and exert their fucking feminine power over you. I’m just another battle and a victory to them. They always want to fucking lead you into something, then fuck you over, kind of like video games.

And yes, I got a little emotional writing that paragraph. But there just seems no hope in high school. Its a freaking contest to see who can get the most power. I guess I’ll give college a chance. When I was on a college trip to Ohio Northern, a hot girl walked past, while I was with my parents and not looking my best, she said hi first (without me even looking at her). In my mind, I’m like “wtF?”

" Its a freaking contest to see who can get the most power."

…It is… and they will screw with you…

College is a lot better, the girls are more grown up and not all bitches… but you will be drawn to the bitches…

You got to learn to stay aloof, not be available all the time, and make plans around your schedule.

I hate being victims of bitches; we have tons of them at our school. I keep telling myself not to fall for these people, yet it almost happens to me everytime. The worst part about it is I’m AWARE of it, yet why do I continue?

I was totally thrown off when that girl said hi to me though. I was completely flabbergasted

“I’m AWARE of it, yet why do I continue?”

…Only you can answer it, but most likely, you want some “head”…

“I was completely flabbergasted”

…no what will flabbergast you is when you get them to your dorm room.

Even better is wearing mones walking through the dorms, then stick around in the down stairs community room with a tv… ohhh yeeaa

you’re 17-18 years old and you want to give up? you’re a senior in high school, have fun. don’t be so damn serious.

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I agree with the Above

You’re young and impatient. I’m still impatient these days!

A friend asked me yesterday, “how do you have all these beautiful women hanging around me? They all seem to love you!”

What I told him, without mentioning pheromones, is that it takes practice, patience and a steady will to become your best self. It’s not only the pheromones. Your appearance, social intelligence, courage, leadership skills, sexual skills are all on the line when you interact with women.

The best part about this entire journey has been the gifts along the way, in the form of incredible opportunities that arise when you put yourself out there. Go to the prom, go to the parties, and drop the complaining part of yourself that holds you back. Get it?

exactly, Rome wasn’t built in a day. i know really really good looking guys who can’t women, because they have the wrong mentality.

also, don’t ever feel sorry for yourself. our football coach in high school used to run us into the ground and would yell at us, “Do you feel sorry for yourselves? Is that what a winner and champion is made of?” Pick your heads up!"

How can I go to parties if I’m not invited, how do I go to prom if I don’t have a date? How can I gain confidence out of nothing?

High school is all about social classes. No matter how you can sugarcoat it that “classes don’t exist” is false. They as a matter of fact, do exist, no matter if people try to destroy them or not; it’s inevitable how people will always group themselves. The social classes have the jocks, the elite group of girls, the intelligent, the average, the gamers, the drug addicts, and last but not least, the loners, like me.

See all this confidence crap, its pretty useless. I can’t gain confidence out of a bad experience. Confidence means putting trust in yourself knowing you can do it; how can I have confidence when every girl I’ve come across, I’ve had a bad experience?

I Coach would say something more motivating like “Hey guys, it’s ok, the girls over there cheering will still love and want you after you have lost… no no.. it’s completely ok with being second best, the first loser, because you know what… hot crazy ladies… they love losers… girls want to have sex with losers…”

one dumbass : “Really coach”

coach : “No you idiot… 10 sets of downs when we get back, the rest of you, go win a fking game for your selves and get some ass tonight”

team except one who now has to do downs: “YYYYYYEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!@”

This was a moment inspired by “The Life of djAndarial”.

Oi vey hang in there its always rough at this point in life maybe get a to-go of 50mcg p83( if you don’t already have it)? one spray is normally prettty nice for some interesting crushy vibes.P96 is also pretty damn spiffarific. :slight_smile:

+1…Trust us, in college, anybody can get it in, haha..parties, free booze, and raging hormones w/o ANY(almost) adult supervision!!! Ha! All you need is a car(clunker or otherwise), and the mones and to be ready to keep a convo. If you get too wrapped up in the PUA stuff, yeah you will mess up. It works if you want one nighters, kisses, etc…but then if you want a GF, you have to come with more than that, home skillet.

HS chicks, are too young to know what they want/don’t want. They rely on MTV, gossip girl, Twilight, and Cosmo to define who they are, and in the end they never become that image because it isn’t real life anyway.

College is waaaay diff, because theres more freedom and ways to express yourself. Alot of fish(freshmen girls) are so happy to be away from their parents, they end up giving it up to whoever is willing to take it…mainly because they can..

Just make sure you have a “glove” on so you wont “catch” anything, haha..peace :wink:

You learn alot more from failures? You haven’t learned anything yet? Are you doing the same thing over and over again? Try on chicks from different high schools.

A good part of confidence (at least with me) is NOT giving a fuck, you’re giving a fuck. Therefore, it’s letting you down putting you down in a ditch. When you don’t give a fuck, for some strange reason things sometimes tend to go your way, like when that girl said hi to you. Because you were like whatever, just bumming it I’m sure and possibly even not giving a fuck. You just didn’t know it, you’re trying too hard and letting it bother you too much.

I’m pretty sure if you look at most of the guys around you with girls they too probably don’t give a fuck, I’m sure DJ doesn’t give a fuck as well and he’s pretty popular with girls.

LTD
Most of us suffer in one way or another. It might be financially, it might be depression. We all suffer to some degree.

Because of this, many of us attempt to feel better through a variety of means. We seek to get out of the pain, move away from it, avoid it or even stuff it. At the same time we push away our pain, we also seek pleasure. We seek whatever will make us feel better.

So, we do things that seem to minimize our pain by adding pleasure to our life. We eat food that may not be the best for our body but it tastes soooo good. Or, if we are having a bad day, we hit the bars with some friends to cheer us up. We might even take stimulants or medication to help us feel better.

Mainstream marketing and advertisements do their best to address your pain points and promise you a remedy, or they will hit the pleasure seeker in you that will buy whatever makes you feel better. Obviously it doesn’t work

In my opinion there are 4 truths to life - understanding and accepting them will go a long way towards making yourself happier.

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Truth 1

In life we suffer and struggle. No one is above this fundamental truth. Look around the globe or watch the news. Suffering is everywhere. To pretend otherwise, is to discount the truth of life. We all suffer.
Application
Stop pretending that everything is either “great” or “miserable.” Look around at reality and see for yourself. Acknowledge that you and others suffer.

Truth 2.
Our wanting to avoid our own suffering and the suffering around us by seeking pleasure and avoiding pain, causes the suffering. In other words, suffering starts and grows by our own desire to get rid of it.
Application
Ask yourself if you are a pain avoider or pleasure seeker, or both? Get to know the ways in which you avoid your own suffering and discomfort.

Pain Avoiders
Men are too scared to feel their emotional pain and avoid feeling their feelings. They will hardly wince at physical pain, brave wars, corporate greed and beat each other to a pulp, but emotional feelings are “off limits” for most men.
If you can handle intense physical pain, why not engage your emotional pain or the emotional pain of others? Be fearless about feeling what is painful in your life. On the other side of feeling great emotional pain is perhaps the pleasure you seek. Again, try it and see for yourself.

Realize that the more you push away pain, the more you are likely to suffer.

Pleasure seekers
If you are always trying to feel better and chasing “positive” feelings such as happiness or joy, stop. Stop and notice what happens when you stop. Just sit there and be with it.
For example, you might be a dopamine junkie. You might seek pleasure through external validation like I did, or you might have certain addictions that give you a “rush.” Ask yourself, who would I be if I didn’t keep chasing this feeling?
If you really feel hooked by this one, I suggest finding a mentor to help you through it. Unless of course, you would rather chase that fleeting feeling.

Truth 3.
Suffering lessens when we can give up our desire to get rid of it. Freedom is possible.
Application
By you relating to your pain and catching yourself as you attempt to avoid it, the great irony is that you may feel better at the end of the day. It is through being a yes to our experience (including pain) that we become more and more fulfilled in life.
This does not mean dwell on your pain and collapse into it. Suffering becomes a vehicle for our own personal growth and evolution.

Truth 4.
The way to end suffering is the path of ethical conduct, self-awareness boosting activities (try sitting somewhere quiet and just focussing on the feeling of your body as you breath in and out deeply - see this article) and mindfulness.
Application
Choose to engage some kind of mindfulness and self-awareness practice. The more you get in touch with your heart and come into harmony with your deepest self, the less you will suffer and the less you will get hooked by the suffering around you. It is not that you stop feeling the suffering around you. Rather, you feel it deeply and you are impacted by it greatly. Yet, the response is to open to it and face it fearlessly, rather than shrink, contract and run away.
Consider the possibility that suffering exists mainly because of our disconnected relationship to our own suffering. If this is true, the work then, is to engage your suffering, relate to it, get to know it, feel it and over time it will dissipate.

(adapted from www.revolutionaryman.com)

Oh and LTD - you are a pain-avoider trying to become a pleasure-seeker. Even if you become a successful pleasure-seeker in college, you will find yourself back to this dark place again once the novelty of success with women wears off.

I’ve said it before - Confidence gained via SOMEONE ELSE’s actions is not real confidence… it is the fake squishy variety that tends to evaporate when there is a drought.

uhhh gosh, I don’t need more pheromones, that’s not my problem.

mikotorocks714: how can you not give a fuck properly? Everytime I go into that “not give a fuck mode” where I don’t talk to anyone doesn’t even work. It just goes back to giving a fuck. Elaborate by what you mean “don’t give a fuck”.

Ross Jeffries always says, “I’m more successful with women, because I’ve failed alot more with women than you.”

Psychology 101. Feeling despair is the most useless emotion. It will lead you to nowhere and keep you there. If you want to get pissed off and get angry, that’s better than feeling despair. At least when you are angry, you will take some action. As long as you don’t do anything extremely stupid.

This is exactly what I mean LTD. Go out there and have fun, go to the prom fuck it! Even if you have no date, just go dance and be merry. People (and I’m sure mostly girls too) don’t like to be around people who are always down on themselves, I’ve learned this from being down on my self as well. It’s hard still, no doubt about it but sometimes we just have to act “tough” for the better.

LTD, no offense dude, but i’ve been following your posts for months now and you fit the textbook scheme of every bipolar person i’ve ever met in my life. have you thought that maybe your perceptions of your problems go deeper than women?