Instant Jerk got my ass beat. Literally.

So… at the bar last night, watching an 80’s hair metal cover band… having a blast, shmoozin with the lady folk when all of a sudden BAM… I get punched in the back of the head and I’m put in a headlock and I literally lost my vision because I couldn’t breathe.

Why you ask?

Well, let me explain.

I get to the bar at around 10:30 p.m., meet with me friends and start drinkin. I noticed right away two meatheads that had been arguing at the bar for quite some time about stupid stuff. I walk right past, don’t say a word to either, and I slip into the action going on with my friends and start enjoying myself.

Now I normally wear a shot of instant jerk to the front of my neck for self effects, but last night I wore one to the front, and one to the back. Just to see what happened.

Well about half an hour goes by and I noticed that the two guys that had been arguing at the bar are now arguing right behind me. Both are drunk, both can barely form a sentence. I don’t even make eye contact with EITHER of them. I just keep dancin and havin a good time.

No more than 5 minute pass and BOOM. I’m seeing stars and I can’t breathe… Oh yea, ITS BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEONE TRYING TO SAW MY HEAD OFF WITH THEIR FOREARM.

The only thing I can think to blame is the uber macho male getting too much IJ up his nose from standing right behind me and instead of punching out the dude he was arguing with he decides to go after me. HE PUNCHED ME IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD!

After he let me go I stood up and as security grabbed him I punched him as hard as I could in his adam’s apple. He threw up and I could hear him outside coughing from the bar.

All in all, this was a TERRIBLE experience, I am NEVER wearing instant jerk again for the sake of my safety (I have a 4 year, I can’t fuck around).

So now I have a near full bottle of IJ that I don’t want. How exactly does the xchange policy work because I’m starting to run low on my IO.

I can post pictures of my bruised neck to prove this happened.

Apparently, my brother had a good night last night with his mx292.

I’m still pissed off.

You gotta buffer that jerk dude lol

Haha, oh wow. That’s cool (not). I ought to get some of that stuff! I’m into Muay Thai, and wouldn’t mind putting my skills to good use.

But yeah, feel sorry for yah, getting punched in the back of the head can cause permanent damage!

getting punched in the back of the head can kill you.

I’m not mad at the pheromones.. they were just doing their job lol. I’m just completely turned off of Instant Jerk now.

on smartmones.com under the IJ section it clearly says “If you want, we’ll even take it back for credit towards more refined products later on when you want to try something “more mature”.”

Well, I want something more mature. Last night was too much for me and I want this bottle o’ Jerk outta here.

A lot is made of how Jerk, NPA, TE, etc., impart an alpha persona making you “The Man.” However it ain’t a free lunch and along with the vibe comes challenges from alpha wannabes. Booze makes it worse but I’ve seen it at work from guys stoned only on caffeine. Truth is, any product with a good amount of androstenone can rile cretins and Neanderthals, so you gotta watch your back and avoid environments like crowded rock concerts, bars, night clubs, etc. (unless you’re lookin’ for a fight).

Jesus, dude. I haven’t been pommeled yet but I certainly felt that an ass whooping was imminent on the few occasions that I did wear IJ.

I have a thread going right now about strategies for diluting IJ into something a bit more useful for people like myself. Maybe it would be of some use to you as well.

Damn man, that sucks. Sometimes you’re just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Those guys probably would have ended up in some other confrontation, the -none just tipped them over the edge and focused on you.

Did the meathead ever give you a reason? It sounds like he was frustrated and punched an easy target (the back of your head) instead of going toe to toe with the guy that actually pissed him off. The adam’s apple is a pretty painful place to be punched, but I would want his nose bleeding and broken for that bs. Either way, I wouldn’t want to be punched in either place so I’m sure he wasn’t happy the next day.

I’ve noticed fights happen around me while I’m wearing IJ before.

Geez dude. Which bar, so I’ll know where not to go??:open_mouth:

Now here’s a question. Why were you even wearing it alone? If you haven’t read all of the stickies on here, then I guess you didn’t know just how much -none can be a bad thing (not just IJ alone, but just too much -none in general.) In this case IJ isn’t to blame. Well, it is because that’s what you were wearing but ANY -none product at these high doses could’ve given you the same result not just IJ. So next time please buffer -none and re-read all of the warnings on -none and the stickies.

yea, i’m not really interested in diluting or buffering Instant Jerk. I really just want to return it.

Looking back it really has only caused more bad than good, for me at least. I have had MANY awesome experiences with other -none products, but IJ is unique with me. Sure at points it made me feel like a bad ass, but I then think about how I possibly treated those around me, as well as how their perception of me might have changed. Who knows if IJ scared off somebody who could have been important in my life later on.

You never know when you’ll encounter someone new, and IJ is not something I want to have on me when I meet someone who could potentially be more than a friend.

And my safety is my #1 concern (after my daughter’s) and after last night I have no interest in the product. Not to say it wasn’t effective, the problem herein is that it WAS effective. I don’t think its necessary to dick around with IJ anymore, at least for me.

But if you want proof that pheromones work, get yourself a bottle of IJ.

Also, how do I go about returning products?

my bad… I only mentioned IJ because I feel it is what caused this last night.

I was also wearing 3 shots of 2 x Insant Shine, 1 drop of A314, and 1 spray of IO to my wrists.

The IJ on the back of my neck was in an appropriate position for the douchebag to pick up on, which is why I made mention of it. Sorry I forgot to mention the others.

oh, and I didn’t bother asking the guy why he hit me, it was just instinctive to disable him as quickly as possible. If I wanted a response after that I’m pretty sure I’d have to wait a few hours before he could talk again.

The wrists for me wasn’t always a good place for diffusion, so another spot where it would have been better of is right on top of the IJ application/s and way more than one spray. Basically what might have happened is that the IO became too diluted and drowned in those two sprays of IJ and drop of A314.

In my eyes IS really doesn’t seem to make something as harsh as high doses of -none more “friendly.” It might, or it may not but that’s just what I think. It actually may make you look more like if you’re the shit since IS makes you look very top notch. So some Alpha dude might see this as “who the hell does this guy think he is by coming off as this?” However, that’s just what I think.

I’ve not done much with the jerk before but thinking back, it was probably the catalyst that led to the end of marriage discussion a few weeks back( just enough of an edge for us both to voice unwelcome opinions without screaming)

I went out this evening to college wearing 2 x heavy ammo and 2 x double honesty. the teenager who has been eying me for weeks (I’m 36) actually left her friends and sat next to me. Half way through, I sprayed 2 x jerk and another 2x IH. at the end of class, she moved her car next to mine and waited for me to come out before throwing herself at me (literally) and attempting to suck my lungs out through my mouth. Since I got home, I’ve had 3 texts and a semi nude photo!

I think I like the Jerk, I reckon it’s worth the occasional meat head incident.:wink:

I dunno.

I never really got any benefits out of IJ other than self effects.

What kind of POSITIVE experiences have you guys had with IJ, and what did you pair it with to dampen the JERK effect?

1904,

Good to hear that there was no serious injury. I myself have not tried jerk, I’ve been experimenting with other -none based mixes, but I do want to try it one day to gauge the effect of the copulins.

Also, I know this has been said before, but you are relatively young and should be aware of the levels of none that you’re wearing. With jerk, or any other none based product, high concentrations may lead to unsolicited aggression from others.

What, apart from riling the wife up enough to tell me the truth about our sham of a marriage or the fact that I’ve just pulled a hot blonde half my age?

To me both of those are beneficial effects. Apart from a slight increase in my already high arrogance level, I see little self effects but got significant eye contact from three other women tonight, a little game and I could have got numbers from any of them including the married one! This stuff works IF you learn to work it.

If you haven’t done so yet, read mikoto’s thread on the Jerk, it’s an eye opener.

Yeah, but shit, dude. You look like Micheal Madsen. You could probably pull of 12 shots of IJ without a hitch.

The problem I keep running into is that I have a very dry-pan sense of humor which when paired with IJ makes me look like a real prick. Again, it works for some and it leads to the unexpected ass-whooping of others. That is why they make chocolate AND vanilla

As far as the return goes, I imagine that is something best taken up within the androtics store and not in the forums

Well that just dropped to the bottom of my Wish List :stuck_out_tongue:

Great report, sorry it had to hurt!

don’t let my report deter you from trying this stuff out… it had AWESOME self effects while I used it, but after last night I’m turned off by it.

@1904 - Sorry to hear about the extreme negative reaction you had. Glad you are OK and hope you heal quickly. And yes having kids really changes the equation doesn’t it. Proud of you for realizing that and making sure she is a major part of the equation.

The other thing to think about is the fact that they were drunk. Very drunk.

At the same time I am sure Steve will work with you. If not there is this guy I know across the pond … lol.

@ Diamond - You old dog, ruff ruff. Got your breath back now that your lungs are back in place?