IOI questions regarding getting TLA (Tongue & Lip Action)

I’m sure many of us, in the course of using mones, get the occasional TLA (Tongue & Lip Action) IOI in which a woman will extend her tongue and lick her lips (sometimes straight out for a short distance, other times a full left to right upturned lip sensually sliding across the upper lip). I’ve also seen some women who seemed more prone than others to displaying some TLA even when they’re not in range of my effective mone radius.

  1. My first question which I hope any of the ladies here will feel free to jump in and discuss is whether TLA is a strictly sexual IOI or if it’s just an issue of needing to quench that deep down body thirst :stuck_out_tongue:
  2. Do women “fake” TLA in the sense that it is a conscious effort, or is it a totally subconscious, autonomic response? :confused:
  3. Lastly, how many TLA’s have the rest of you gotten over the course of an encounter? I have had several meetings with 1 subject where I have gotten from 40-80 TLA’s over the course of an hour as an extreme :open_mouth:

I usually get either kissed/licked on the point of application, or I get her biting half her lower lip in that seductive manner while she looks at me. You know, the one that says, “I’m horny. F**k me NOW!” Mostly, I get women trying to lick the pheromones off.

I don’t get the lower lip thing a lot over the course of an encounter, that seems to be fairly rare. When I find a mix that produces oral responses, though, the woman typically is doing it constantly. I once told my assistant to stop licking my neck ten times in an hour. We were in Wal Mart for eight of those attempts. She just would not stop! And typically, she’s not one for PDAs. I was wearing Alter Ego on my neck that night.

I would say, if you’re getting that much TLA from a woman, she may be interested in expressing an oral response or fetish, and she may be interested in kissing. However, while it’s a strong signal, it’s not going to tell you much unless you use all her other body language to “put it in context”. I usually look for three or more congruent body language indicators.

For instance, was she giving you seductive eyes? Was she giving you hair flips? Was she giving you neck exposures? How about leaning in towards you? There’s lot of them.

Beyond that, I’m not female, so I’m not qualified to answer. :slight_smile:

I’ve seen the biting lips IOI quite a few times, although it’s more of a curled upper and lower lip, as if the woman was trying to suppress or hold back intense sensations. I think the biting lower lip that you’re getting is probably even stronger since it’s got that seductive element to it :wink:

One of my primary mixes uses Alter Ego in it, and it definitely gets TLA’s, especially at work since it’s intended as a work mix. I think it has something to do with the scent that’s incorporated with Alter Ego, as it reminds me of a Hugo Boss type scent with a deep feel to it. I find that women who have at least some interest in me are much more prone to giving me TLA’s when I’m talking with them and standing within 3 feet distance.

As for the case of the extreme TLA, the woman that I was with has shown other multiple IOI’s including hair flipping, crossed & squeezed legs, hands buried in her lap/crotch between her legs, playing with jewelry, butt responses, excited legs, strong eye contact and smiles, downward looks towards her crotch, and some biting lips (my type). She also touched her neck and preened herself and her clothing on several occasions.

I’d be very much interested in feedback from the ladies too. Hypothetical ideas from other men is fine and all, and I’ve done my fair share of research on the matter…but nothing beats real insight. Given that I’m sitting at home on the internet on a saturday night, I could use all the insight I can get lol.

From a dudes perspective, there are some gestures that I’m not keenly aware of that do tend to reflect the way I’m feeling at the moment…some of which I try avoid (when I catch myself), and some which I try to accentuate.

Well, I may be very unusual in this respect, but I was pretty sure I never do any of the above, and after quizzing “The Man,” (at work, wondering what I am “researching” now…) it appears I am right.

If I want to be kissed or more, I will stare very meaningfully at the guy’s mouth for a few seconds, then straight into his eyes, then look away.

The second time I do it…result! ^_~

Ail :slight_smile:

It wouldn’t surprise me if every woman had a different set of “kiss me” signals.

Ail, witch magic doesn’t count LOL :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

she wanted your…chapstick.
seriously , i believe it is 80-90% subconcious. anyone who does it purposefully has probably already tried a bunch of other ways to get your attention and failed. extending the tongue and licking the lips for attention is pretty extreme. unless they dont realize they are doing it,woohoo,good for you!:stuck_out_tongue:

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Using Magick to get a kiss would be a very sad, bad thing to do - plus it would come under the umbrella of “Personal Gain” and as such is a REAL no-no, for those of my ilk…

I like to think the Ail magic is enough in these cases. ^_~

..but while we are on the subject of Magick, it’s the Summer Solstice (Midsummer) tomorrow, so I will be very busy doing other..err stuff, and not on here at all.

I therefore in advance, extend Solstice Blessings to one and all here.

Ail )O(

Ail, why would you think using magick for personal gain was bad? There’s nothing wrong with using magick for personal gain as long as you make sure nobody is harmed in the process. And anyone who would use magick just to get a kiss, is not qualified to be using it in the first place! Much easier to just kiss someone.

Somebody hasn’t been watching Charmed (on the TV), have they…

If you had been, you would know these things.

:stuck_out_tongue:

Dancing naked in the glen?? <closes eyes and imagines>

I’m pretty sure that she wasn’t faking it to get my attention :wink: She had no interest of that sort in me before I started using mones, and I think I have awakened the inner beast in her! She’s just waiting to eat me alive (I hope!) :open_mouth:

Ah yes, Charmed****, the natural source for magickal knowledge. :roll_eyes: lol

Isn’t it amazing the difference pheromones make? And doesn’t it just suck when you are talking to them on the phone and they’re suddenly not interested anymore? lol

lol. I don’t like wasting time yapping away on the phone. I keep things very short to set up a date on the go or whatever.

I feel the same way. But there are times when the phone is all you can manage.

I never find myself licking my lips as a subconscious sign of interest. I think with most women that would probably an intentional gesture. Unless, of course, if she had really chapped lips or was very thirsty.

When I am interested in someone I find myself either:
A. Smiling seductively with my lips pursed.
or
B. Biting my bottom lip slightly.
These are not really conscious reactions. I just do these things when I find myself attracted to someone.

When I am attracted to someone, I usually show him by doing A., and staring seductively into his eyes.

Female to Male translation dictionary:

A. Goes completely unnoticed by the typical male.
B. May catch a man’s attention if he knows how to read body language and is actively paying attention, but will otherwise go completely unnoticed.

lol!

Oh believe me, this never goes unnoticed when I intentionally do this accompanied with the seductive stare. :wink: You know, the type of look that says “I want you and you will be mine.”