sorta made me wonder why Instant Honesty isn’t being used by the FBI as a “natural” truth serum instead of torture and other illegaly invasive methods.
Because the amount of beta-androstenol used in IH isn’t enough to substantially get someone to spill the beans…not to the extent that it could be used for interrogation anyway. Instant Honesty is probably the one product in the Instant Line that could use a more appropriate name. The ‘honesty’ effect really isn’t the primary benefit of IH to me, or for most people who use it frequently I would suspect. Its a very good product IMO, but I really think the name of the product isn’t entirely congruent to its real benefit.
AD at one point did make a commercial strength (heavily concentrated)beta androstenol batch for law enforcement use a couple of months back, though I’m quite sure what happened to it.
so, what does it REALLY do, then?
idk i’m starting to feel what smoothplayer is saying…
And whoever said we are animals, why wouldn’t we detected pheromones.. well.. because we are highly evolved animals and through natural selection we probably lost the use of our pheromone receptors as females didn’t just base their sexual preferences on pheromone levels, but also on looks, financial status, social status, etc.
I keep reading replies to people’s questions that are variations on… “well… she’s sending you signals, 'duh! Act on it…”
I need to experiment on my own but I’m sure those signals are there regardless and you’re just starting to really notice them because you’re thinking… is this the result of the pheromone? what should i do? Whereas before you probably didn’t recognize these signals as much of anything, but I could be wrong.
But why don’t people just act on it without pheromones, why do they need a false sense of invincibility, that they paid for, to fulfill their goals?
I don’t act on these signals in real life, and I highly doubt these pheromones will make my balls and esteem larger… it’s a personally issue I got to fight and conquer.
I haven’t tried any of the products here yet but with the stuff I’ve been reading, and the empty results from pherlure, can’t say I’m much interested anymore.
IDK how justified this post is as I haven’t used any of these pheromone products but in my mind it’s simple… I haven’t done a standard deviation curve or any of those things but if there are a lot of people that are unhappy well.. something’s up. Especially within such a “small” community and targeted market…
Yeah, maybe it’s 80% game and 20 % pheromones, like someone has posted here. When I look at your picture and see your body language I already feel that you have a lack of game.
So maybe you should block up your inner skeptic for a while and start learning some skills of the game.
As a small child I once ate at a chinese restaurant and didn’t like the food. So I never wanted to go to a chinese restaurant again. Maybe the cook was bad, maybe I just didn’t liked it, because I wanted to go to a Italian restaurant. Today I am older and I like chinese food.
Hm, I didn’t read about so many unhappy people here, but maybe it’s just that I do not care if it works for other people, because it works for me.
If you don’t want to have your own experience then don’t buy the products. It’s that simple.
Maybe you missed out something, maybe you saved some money, which you can spend on colorful cocktails. 
Edit: And do not forget that there’s a double your money back guarantee: Double Your Money Back Guarantee => You have nothing to lose and an experience based opinion to gain.
Pheromones are only part of the overall picture of why someone is attracted to you. Looks, personality, social status, etc etc etc definitely play a part; more-so than pheromones I would argue. This is why along with pheromone discussion, you see a lot of discussion on self-improvement on the forum. Pheromones are only part of the overall ‘attractive’ equation.
So whats the benefit to using pheromones then?
Pheromones, when used appropriately, work as enhancers of appeal…they themselves are not creators of appeal (as many less reputable companies like pherlure would have you believe). They make people much more responsive and reactive to you and your actions…and that really is where pheromone effects are most obvious: how people receive and respond to you.
To me searching for indirect signals is a horrible measure of the effects of pheromones…it leaves too much room to question what’s really going on. The best measure of a pheromone or mixes effects are how people react when you actively interact with them.
Going back the effects of Instant Honesty, the most immediate effect I notice is an accelerated establishment of rapport with someone. Works very well as an ice-breaking pheromone. People tend to befriend you and feel socially comfortable much more quickly than they might have under normal conditions. Generally people will feel and act much closer to you than they might normally feel. People you know and are comfortable with already have a tendency to open up more than they normally would.
The honesty effect to me is a more extreme effect to beta androstenol. When beta androstenol has a significantly strong enough impact on someone, it can make someone so comfortable with you socially that they delve into conversation topics which they normally would have kept to themselves. At these ranges, IH can have a similar effect on me, and might even be considered an OD.
Anyway I do think that both smooth and you have a point though…as a lot of the effects that we see our subject to our own interpretation, and our expectations while wearing pheromones can drastically affect how we interpret things. AD recognizes this actually, and releases all of their test pheromones without any prior information of what the effects are supposed to be. This eliminates biased perceptions of what the pheromones do.
This is again, why I base the success of pheromones on actual behavioral changes and progress than superficial ‘signs’ and what not.
Oh yeah Smooth actually did a follow up to this thread not to long ago.
sorry nay sayer but this stuff is VERY REAL today I wore nothing and it was very obvious, SO obvious that my ‘armor’ was missing… it is totally 100 % real and it is not placebo… the placebo factor is when you, the user work UP to the phero you modify your life to match the phero effect, but that isn’t placebo that is PLAYING THE PART… it is 100 % real those that don’t think it is real probably aren’t aware enough of the details… believe me, the ‘air’ we feel between people is objective, they feel it too… so I cover myself in come talk to me, walk in a crowded room it causes a chain effect and soon the air in the room is breezy and relaxed… you ‘feel’ the air, it is so real that you can smell what’s happening
Hmmmm not a bad post King/c , i was just having a very quick browze here as i had a few spare minutes, and what i have read throughout appears very interesting, and i also think i can add a little usefull information as i have had an unexpected pheromone experience about 4 days ago, I was on my way to a meeting where there were about 400 people present, and i knew some of them, so after my shower and getting dressed, I wasnt really bothered about planing a special mix to apply as i wanted to keep a low profile and also because it was hot and sunny about 34c , so after i put the dreaded tye on i noticed i had a few opened gel packs that had been sitting around for a few weeks so i combined them and spread it all around my gills, i had never combined these two before or even thought about doing so, well i did anyway and i had a 7 minute walk from my home to the meeting and i was nearly there and all of a sudden i had a really good whiff of this magnificient odour that came from me, and it just lifted me to where i had never been for so many years, it was a super fresh and a little sweaty sort of smell but so clean and refreshing at the same time, and it really did lift me to a time when i was just a boy sort of because it was so delightfull and refreshingly intoxicating at the same time, its never happened before, i just sort of thought it must have been a reaction that the heat had caused to affect my mix, which incidently i had forgotten about up until this occurance, any way i get inside and am preoccupied with some business, and i was genuinly supprised when women that usually did not approach me actually went out of their way to start talking, even so much as to grab my arm as one woman did as she said hi terry, everyone i actually sat next to actually looked me in the eyes and would not shut up, even when i left the building on my way out i said hi to an aquaintance, in passing and he started talking, i was in a hurry and had to get to the airport, and this person started following me down the street, i said “is your car parked down here”, and he said no" I just feel like a walk" ha ha , but none of this was even expected in the least because i thought the mix was just sort of throwing on some left overs, it actually was 1/3 g/p of AE and 1/2 g/p of SOE, the old larger version, I have used these products before with no noticeable result from the AE, usually, and a passable result from the Soe g/p, as i usually use the SOE rollon unscented, but today out of the blue came a real magic suprise with this combo i had never before tried, after all i was just using up some scraps i had lying around… so sometimes things just happen i suppose.
It was a really hot day as i said, and the aircon was out of order in the building, and a lot of folks were fanning themselves.. so i was wondering if the heat had anything to do with thje pheromone effects???
Hey Terry,
Glad you stopped in, you’re always welcome.
The heat, IMHO, apparently has lot’s to do with the dispersion of the pheromones. I believe if it was cooler there are less smells in the air. When it’s hot, smell seems to carry longer distances.
Also consider this: If I’m getting a bit sweaty and my human musk (pheromones natural and man-made) are dispersing I think people might take more notice. It’s like he may be sweaty, but goodness gracious he’s someone I want. It adds congruency where as the cold air might hinder the dispersion and also negate any positive affects. If I’m a bit smelly and yet it’s cool someone might take notice but it’s possible in their mind (while reacting to the pherosig) they might think, gee there’s something interesting with him, but I just cant put my finger on it, thus negating any interactions.
I hope this makes sense, I’m only on my first cup of coffee.
To all who wonder whether pheromones are for real,
all I know is,
If you can OD on this, like many of us have, than it does do something…
If you can experience the negative with wearing too much (which is much more obvious than the subtle positive effects which take TIME and skill to notice), then one can see that it does work.
This is a backwards way of thinking about this, but I hope that you see my point..
And like many of us have pointed out, the phero products are NOT the magic spray that poof will make everyone just jump your bones with you not doing anything.. a nice fantasy, but, not gonna happen!
With that being said,
I have experienced many positive hits and negatives (with OD) as well with using the products that will definitely keep me coming back.
It does make sense to you and i it seems, because we know what is going on, when the other person just cant put their finger on it, especially when they are raving on and on to us, without really saying anything, but there is that “something” that is keeping them attached, and i now believe that this was (in my case cited above )
not a placebo effect because i left home without any expectations of effecting any hit type of responses, and i was not even looking for them, and after all, i had just slopped on a little leftover junk, because after a year of applying products,it just becomes a habit for me, and i dont really give it a lot of thought at all anymore. unless da da da da im testing something new, and then it becomes exciting in the getting to know the new substance. But while we are having fun, and enjoying the science of the art of pheromones in society, it is also mind expanding as we interact with others around us that our choosing of these paths have caused us to come in contact with, so it is all for our good, and developement i think. especially for me in my old age it keeps my brain active. ha ha. It is funny because i have just woken up not long ago, and i did awaken several times throughout the night and each time a picture of your new avatar kept coming into my mind, and now that i am awake you have been the first person that i have communicated with, so all i can say is, its a funny world at times how it all works and fits together somehow..
you know,
i was discussing with my friend TommyFever (post already,will ya?)
that a part of me wants people to be having the fun i have, and the other part is this dark evil sorceress that wants no one to know about them and hopes everyone thinks its BS.
i creeped myself out with that,
because more often than not, i want to be having fun and pheromoning the world…watching people experience the fun and getting the room hot for one another.
but then i start thinking, who cares what others believe?
there are leaders,and there are followers.
the leaders may not have all the answers, but they arent afraid to screw-up.
their not afraid to say “oh yeah i tried that. it DIDNT work”.
i enjoy being that person.
i also enjoy singing outloud when i know i cant sing 
but i also want to mention HOTMAMA (woohoo!) that i have in fact experienced those moments - although not as often- when people have reacted over the top and hysterically to these mixes…
i have had that “i wanna jump your bones right now!” thing happen.
i dont tell people who are curious that THAT stuff happens, they ought not to expect it and let it be icing on the cake when it does…
i actually had friends look at me in another way only to go back to normal when i wasnt wearing “instant got-you” 
got-you is when i wear a combination that confuses the hell out of them.
You’re scaring me!
Well Steveo, i did not actually know before i awoke that i was going to be replying your post, it is just the way things sort of panned out i guess, and please dont worry, because i have some male friends who i help out at times, because they are genuine and good blokes, and i really like them, but they arent scared, because i do not find men attractive in a sexual way, as men do not elevate my heartrate, or cause me to catch my breath in the same way a female can easily do. ha ha if you know what i mean, because as far as i am concerned “there just aint nothin on this earth so wonderfull as a woman” as they are all beautifull, in their own special way..
Ok, first off, that’s freakin’ great, and we are all jealous.
Second, what the heck did you put on?
And, basically, what I was just trying to say was what you said, but much more eloquently than me, is that one shouldn’t expect this to happen on a daily basis, but if it does, WOW! Hasn’t happened to me yet (well, I won’t go into details of my sex life here just yet) in the way of the other person hitting unbelievably on me, but what has happened is SELF-EFFECT which did result in a series of a very hot nature (and, to boot, with my husband with whom I’ve been for the last 8 years).
And self-effect is certainly not to be underestimated!!
im going to keep this very short and brief.
wear PMX 101 and/or Instant Jerk for an entire month. 5 sprays every 6 hours.
let me know how your month has been–it usually takes about a month before you become so used to using it like a cologne that you should forget its effect, and use it as a scent.
if nothing seems off or changed. i will stop using pheromones. i swear i will
in fact buy a couple of bottles and give them out to some family members also.
so we can all walk around smelling like pussy… nice
add cologne then. in fact you can order it with fragrance.
i used to use the T series often, and i used PMX101 2 weeks straight. with essential oils.
no excuses. theres ways.
apparently someone bumped this thread. i thought I’d let it die a while ago.
yeah, I followed up with this thread not long ago..titled it, Life is much better with pheromones
I made this thread mostly out of getting annoyed when i told everyone i used pheromones. a couple of my friends didn’t talk to me for a while, but we’re cool now. no one believes me that this stuff has any effect, and i got sort of convinced by them that i must be crazy..that it’s all just some placebo effect.
it was also because I was OD’ing a lot and wanted to convince myself that it just must not be real. i had a huge amount of -nol on me from using so much Instant Openness, and i was experiencing a lot of -nol to -none conversion. Ive now experienced that -nol smells “metallic” since then, i told my family that i’ve gotten over it, but they still know i use pheromones - although they don’t believe in them still. my friends also know, but they also don’t believe it. what’s funny is how they don’t even care to try…it’s weird, they’re not even curious to give it a shot??
anyway, pheromones definitely do work. if anyone happens to read this thread again later…i figured I would write this message. It all comes around. I think the effects have been such that I really can’t deny the positives of pheromones. it’s just too good. and like a couple people said…sexually, girls won’t just jump your bones. of course not, it’s only part of the package. you gotta dress nice, have some personality, be confident, etc. but, from my experience, pheromones get your foot in the door a lot easier. girls start conversations with me, and approach me a lot more than when I don’t use them. i still get approached without, but with, it’s like i walk into a cafe and i get stares from 3-4 women. it’s much easier, and if you already have some good social skills then with pheromones you can steal the show.
of course, life is also great without pheromones, but I think with them it’s just like I said in my other thread…like you’re cheating at life. It’s definitely something out of the ordinary, and now that I understand how positive it’s been on my life in the past months, I can see exactly how much advantage I have.
i don’t use them everyday any more though. you get the hang of when to use and how much after a while.
I think after you experiment for a long time you really get a better sense of how much they really are effective.