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The impulsive batterer and ‘non-aggressive assertiveness’

Thanks S… It’s good to be back.:wink:

I wrote above that to Dutton (1998), the explosions of the impulsive batterer signified ‘over-control’ as a result of being unassertive.

The ‘over controlled’ batterer may have his impulsive aggression sufficiently controlled by consistently having his DHA levels raised through supplementation. However, I believe that something key to any successful long term treatment may still need to be added.

In a 1998 study, Eisenberg et al showed that an ADHD-associated version of the gene DRD4 is associated with better health in nomadic tribesmen, and yet may cause malnourishment in their settled cousins. The full text describes a potential reason for the result: “Increased impulsivity, ADHD-like traits, novelty-seeking like traits, aggression, violence and/or activity levels may help nomads obtain food resources, or exhibit a degree of behavioural unpredictability that is protective against interpersonal violence or robberies.”

I do believe that impulsive aggression can also signal to some women at least subconsciously that this is someone who can defend ‘the fort’. This is someone who will straighten things out once in a while and is not necessarily the pushuver that people might think he is via his generally unassertive demeanour. If you are taking the impulsive aggressive trait away from an already unassertive male (via high dose DHA supplementation), then he might not be able to show that he can defend ‘her and any future babies’ to a woman. The impulsive aggressive trait may have been evolutionary selected for, in some circumstances.

So you need to find ways to increase his non-aggressive assertiveness to compensate. After all, what man would want to continue on a treatment path that would make him LESS attractive to the opposite sex (even if he turned into more of a ‘nice guy’, good citizen for society :slight_smile:).

Also another fact. Some people need the stimulation of a ‘fight’ - they are understimulated and a fight subconsciously provides them with the adrenalin and cortisol they subconsciously need to get themselves going. Some domestic violence may be a case of such scenarios spiralling out of control (that’s what happens when nutrients essential for temper control, especially DHA, are in short supply!)

In the above examples, it sounds like the issue would be ADHD primarily inattentive type-related, and that issue would have to be diagnosed and properly treated along with any high dose DHA supplementation for the impulsive batterer.

But the impulsive batterer, who ‘over-controls’ as a result of being unassertive, may have other unrelated issues.

For example, in a 2010 study, Kashdan and McKnight identified a subset of people with social anxiety who are aggressive, impulsive novelty seekers who deviate from the prototypical person with the disorder (the prototypical person with social anxiety is someone who is shy, submissive, inhibited, and risk averse).

Other things that may help (even if there is no formal disorder to be treated) the impulsive batterer may be related to hormone levels: weight training, and nutrition to get their testosterone levels up. High Testosterone + High Serotonin levels should result in a more consistent ‘non-impulsive aggressive but controlled assertive’ mindset.

Anyway the point of the post was: whatever the issue (or disorder) is for each impulsive batterer, it would have to be identified and worked on in addition to any compulsory supplementation to increase blood DHA levels. This two pronged approach (on top of the various counselling methods currently in use) should result in being able to forcefully maneuvre the ‘impulsive batterer’ toward a mental situation of ‘non-aggressive assertiveness’. The move would be beneficial to society, to reducing the domestic violence, and it should be beneficial even to the batterer himself.:open_mouth:

Andy (June 25, 2002):
"Re: For all the older guys…a question about life…
It’s a small path surrounded with rifts from all sides. I think the best way is to be something I call the “mr. nice pussyhunter defender”. You gotta be nice to the woman/girl of your desire but she needs to know that you are potent enought to satisfy her in all needs and powerfull enough to hold her at all costs.
You just need to be mr. niceguy and mr. axeswinging childreneater in one person. It’s not that simple because you can easily tend to much to one side, it looks like tending more to the alphatype side is better than beeing too nice. That’s how herd alphas react, show your teeth but support your females and lower males when needed and chase away or destroy intruders.
… in human relations often one of the factors given above is substituted with money.

Sum:
be nice when needed
bark at everybody who ist after your female
defend her
make her life easier (often with money)
f*** her like hell (sorry for the f word … but that’s the way you should think)
show her that you are able to fullfill all of the above points, before they get important

That are my own conclusions and they worked well for me. I don’t dare anybody to try this at home . It might fail … it might work. I am in a lucky relationship for some years now. I got her beeing like this and I hold her that way. It is mostly part of my nature (though I’d like to be nicer, it’s hard to be a little cruel sometimes). I urge everybody not to play a role, just be natural and just adapt the “harder line” to your personality."

Nunya (March 30, 2007):
“…well now - this is sort of what i’m getting at. men and women have different biological imperatives. to a man it’s about spreading seed, to a woman it’s about finding a worthy mate. which only makes sense, because being a mother leaves you soemwhat vulnerable, because now you not only have to watch your back, you have to watch the backs of your children too (i’m speaking in a very primitive way - not 21st century, we can bring home the bacon, and fry it in a pan) So biologically speaking you need the help-mate that can help you hold down the fort and ensure the survival of your young. So from that perspective women are wired to be selective in a mate, and to look for commitment, and a suitable spouse…”