hmmm should i say it or will someone else say it… ok i will… whoops inuendo an accident 
Im am greatly offended, now i shall deduct a point. jk, the way you find out is if that person signs in the comment box. Those can be found in the User CP. Thanks for everyone whose helped and backed up my points. I appreciate it.
Haha. To answer your question Mal, i dont like cheetos =P Its cause its junk food and i dont really eat junk food. No offense too you.
I’m the guy who does everything for a friend in need, i will go out with a girl who just broke up with her boyfriend at 3 in the morning to go out and bike with her just to help her lose some stress. I’m also the guy who donates blood twice a year to the red cross and i’m that guy who participates in charity like things such as Habitat for Humanity and Relay for Life.
However, the asshole side of me can do some pretty mean things. For example: I can make someone feel like total crap… however, in the end, i feel really bad. I guess i’m an asshole for fun and games, i try not to go overboard and i usually don’t, however, sometimes im insensitive or having a good time at someones expense, which i don’t like. It’s good to know ones own flaws.
I gave blood once to a sidewalk.
I was stupid drunk and fell flat on my face and busted my lip open. Bled like a drunk who fell on his face… AHHH those were the good old days.
Because there is something more to her. She’s hiding something that she is insecure about and, from what it looks like, she just needs someone to talk to.
The holding out for someone thing, i truly think she is confused. She doesnt know what to pick right now and i just think that the friends since middle school thing is kicking in. That, and i’m not really the one for girls. To tell you the truth, even though i could have gotten a gf, ive never had one. I never really sought the need to with all the academic and extra curricular I was doing. Now that time is freeing up, college is coming near, and i’ve been working on my body, I just want someone to Really talk to. I hope I make sense.
Maybe the reason that i dont have a girfriend yet is because my expectations are high and so are my standards. But why should i lower my standards ever? If i am looking for someone to spend real time with, I want them to be right for ME. I dont want to come off as a jerk or anything, im just voicing what i believe.
It doesn’t sound like you’re being a jerk. Why go out with someone you don’t really want to be with? Standards are set for the girl as well as for you. It would be cruel to pull her strings that way.
I’m actually in the same situation. I’ve decided not to date right now unless I get the “BAM” kind of feeling. The reasons for this are very complex and uninteresting, so I won’t get into, but there it is.
The problem you have to watch out for is having too high of standards so you’ll never give anyone the chance.
Besides, you’re in highschool. Seriously, I look back at that time (and we aren’t that far apart in age) and have to laugh at it all. You’re going to change so much in the next four years, it’s unbelievable.
And now I’m starting to get a clearer picture of her.
I’m very sure she’s insecure. I was actually like that not so very long ago. I never thought I was pretty unless someone told me so. I never thought people liked me unless I actually got affection. And when I did get those compliments and attention, I wrote it off, thinking they were lying or it didn’t mean anything, so people stopped telling me because it was just bringing them down. I then realized I really had to change my outlook, and the way I treated myself and the people around me. Now if somebody says something, I take them at their word, and say, “Thank you” holding back the “but it’s not true.”
Sounds like she has to make a change within herself. You can be a helping hand, and be there to talk to her, but in the end, it’ll be up to her.
I actually agree that you need to stop treating her like everybody else treats her. But with insecure people, this becomes dangerous ground. She might snap out of it, but if you neg her too much, it’s bad news.
Definitely don’t take her crap, though! Because crap it is! And no matter how insecure she is, I’m sure she knows it.
Sounds like she’s a real project. And hey, some guys like challenges. I hope you can help her out.
Uh, a small thing toilofday. I’m good, thanks. Learned my lesson years back, and would have paid a year’s wages to know then what I now know. Heck seven years wages. But think you meant to address BlazingAzn88.
Cheers,
Quicksilver
Oops 
To the person who docked me a rep point because I mentioned PUA in one of my posts.
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Reading PUA materials does not mean supporting PUA practices, just like reading the Bible does not make a person a Christian. For an example of what I mean, note the main speaker at the last State of the Union Address. However, it offers some valuable insight on human nature that can be used to understand the other side. So please consider people in a better light before docking them.
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Allowing anyone to think abusive behavior is ok, male or female, in hopes of getting closer to them only results in much mental pain and anguish, and years wasted. And, at it’s core, it is manipulation. Being up front about how you feel about another person’s selfish behavior is an opportunity for them to grow, or to make an honest decision about who they want to spend their remaining years with.
<Ail formerly quoted here. Quote removed.>
Mostly, I’m annoyed that someone assumed I propose tactics that amount to being false to yourself. Read my posts more carefully. I am a proponent of the opposite.
Cheers,
Quicksilver
P.S. Oh, and I don’t want the point back, thanks. 
Umm..why am I being quoted in this topic?
It is well-known that I don’t hold with ANY PUA activities or fake dating and mating practices, or manipulations - and I am extremely vocal about it, I also make sure to sign my rep point posts, (just ask around here and you will find that is the case - definitely), but I am certainly not the only person who opposes PUA crap and its ilk on this board, by a long chalk, and I did not take any rep points from you, so why did you quote me here?
I would not even have known you had done this, had a friend not PMed me to let me know..
Get a grip. EVERYBODY loses points here, and I lost an absolute TON for BEING so vocal about PUA gumff. People do not always agree, and never will, but don’t you DARE quote my posts and assume I took away your points - OK?
Oh, and if you ARE saying I signed it, then I’ll be straight onto Michael and Jasmin to get that rep system sorted out, as I will NOT stand for someone trying to bring my name into disrepute by pretending to be me, when they rep other people. THAT is not freaking on.
Ail
Sorry all this neg-repping is getting everyone upset. Just a note, though, if you’re looking around and wondering who dunnit: rep power shows how many points are given/taken each time you rep someone. If someone deducted 1 point from Quicksilver, that means their rep power is 1. Couldn’t be Ail then, could it.
i duno she is kinda mean… JK JK i love her… Ail is the coolest Doctor i know…
But the real question is: Why do people have the misconception of what a PUA really is? It’s pretty amazing to me that “most” people that talk down about PUA have no understanding what it teaches.
If they did they would be able to comprehend that every PUA’s material that I have read emphasizes that the person first must focus on themselves. “The inner Game” as DeAngelo calls it. Both Mystery and DeAngelo both use Dr. Paul who is brilliant in his applications on how one must be mature in him/her self before they can spark magnetism/attraction in another. Those who falsely believe that the “game” is anything other than human interaction have obviously not read the material.
It took me many years to finally understand why as the nice guy who was always there for the girl never got the girl. I truly believe that was the underlying factor of my obesity. I believed there was something wrong with me so subconsciously so I corrected my dilemma by eating to compensate for my mental flaw that I was ugly. In my minds eye I was ugly, after all I could never be loved, so I overate to catch up with my self image of ugliness.
The only reason now that I understand what I had become and why I was obese and alone was because I learned from the PUA. At no time ever did DeAngelo or Mystery ever tell me I had to change who I was, but simply made me realize that by being the nice guy every body could always rely on was not a good thing. I had no personal boundaries. People relied on me to go out of my way (drive 3 hours at night as a favor). That’s not doing a favor, that’s being used.
Try asking any of your friends to help you out by doing some of these things that you do for them. Once, maybe you might get a helping hand. Twice is possible too, but I’m pretty certain that if you come to rely on others like others rely on you than you are in for a letdown. To really test a friendships strength just say NO sometimes. See what happens. I pretty much now have a new value based set of friends. If I can, I will help, but friendship is a two way street, just like love is.
If you want to act like a scoundrel, or be deceptive try Speed Seduction by R. Jeffries. Now that’s just low down dirty and underhanded in my opinion! Manipulation is buying dinner and flowers and driving three hours out your way because somewhere in the back of your mind your thinking it might give you an “IN”.
Sorry for the rant, but I learned the hard way that ass-kissing gets you nothing but pain and hurt.
We have none of that gumff here in Scotland - trust me on that.
I for one, am VERY glad of that fact, and have said that umpteen times now.
Scots, are the most WYSIWYG people you are ever liable to come across on this earth, and I would not change that fact for anything.
Genuine people are the salt of the earth, and I feel very sad there are so many countries with so many fake, false people inhabiting them.
No wonder we live in a society of cynics.
Ail
Ok, I believe you. The person who docked me did not sign their name to the neg rep, but used language that led me to believe it was you. I didn’t name you, because I didn’t want to give anyone a reason to dock you further.
I apologize for giving that impression. In addition, I too wish the rep point system was more transparent. What’s to keep someone from falsely signing their name? All the positive points I have - I have no idea who to thank.
I’ll edit your quote out of my post. If that is insufficient, let me know on this thread or in a PM, and I’ll do what I can, without compromising my principles.
Cheers,
Quicksilver
Quicksilver I left you one the other day that said I agreed with you, but as a NOOB I guess I was somewhat unaware that it would be anom. Well anyway you’re welcome for the positive one. It was me>
I love challenges. One can’t learn and grow without experiencing something difficult to overcome. Anyway, all this has done for me has let me become more aware about myself, and it’s actually improving my health. I’m working out more, eating healthier, sleeping better. It’s all good. I guess im playing with the rules: whatever happens, happens, but a little nudge one way or another doesnt hurt .
i liek that.. play by the rules but a nudge doesnt hurt… very clever… sound slike one of those self help books or something…
brutally honest is a closer description.
i know of no other person that would tell me straight up how it is if i asked. she’s THAT consistant.
im very lucky to have a friend like THAT! 
Ail… am i attractive?