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So, I’m a sophomore in college, about to join a fraternity (at my school, freshmen cannot).

There’s a GORGEOUS freshman girl that lives on the floor down from mine. We became “friends” instantly. She has a boyfriend who is two years YOUNGER than her (junior in HS…weird). She doesn’t really like to talk about him around me.

Anyways, she very reluctantly showed me a dog tag that she wears after I’ve asked her several times on separate occasions to show me. It was her initials, her boyfriend’s initials, and “forever. I promise.”

Thing is, the girl is ALWAYS on me. Sitting on my lap, hugging me, kissing my cheek, and even “trying to give my hand a hickey (she was hammered).”

Anyways, one of my friends (a girl) told me she saw her partying with a lot of guys a couple of nights ago. She’s EXTREMELY flirtatious, yet, she told my friend IN FRONT OF THE OTHER GUYS “Yanni (that’s me) is SO incredibly hot. You can’t imagine the things I’d do to him if I didn’t have a boyfriend.”

So last night, she got back from the beach (hanging with her boyfriend and other friends from home for her birthday). She comes back, and I thought she’d kind of stay away from me, as she’s recently been with her boyfriend. Not the case. Outside of our dorm, there was a guy trying to spit game at her, putting his arm around her, but when I came out, she abandoned him and came to me.

Anyways, her roommate’s boyfriend was over. She asked me if she could stay in my room for the night on my futon. I said sure. Later on, she sent me a text that said “I’m going to stay in here (I assumed her room) tonight, babe. Love you.”

Today, I went into her room to wish her a happy birthday. She wasn’t there, but her roommate was. Her roommate ended up telling me (she wasn’t supposed to) that the girl stayed in another guy friends room (this guy has been trying to get in her pants).

This REALLY pissed me off.

My roommate and close friend at college read some of the texts, and told me she’s playing me. I find it hard to believe because there are many times I ignore calls, texts, and her asking me to come over. They think I should completely stop talking to her.

What do you guys make of this? What’s my next step? I’ve worn TUTH a couple of times around her, but found out I really don’t need pheros around her. Is it a lost cause?

Most importantly, what’s my next move?

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Honestly?

Your friend is right.

Walk. Don’t waste your time chasing a girl like that - you’re just keeping her engine warm for her boyfriend. Sorry if that sounds harsh but I think on a deeper level you’re thinking exactly what I am.

If for some reason you don’t think you should walk away - TUTH is the wrong set of pheros for this job. Try IH or IO and get closer.

But take my word for it dude - walk away.

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I agree. I have been in a similar situation before, when I was REALLY young, lol. I hope I am still considered SOMEWHAT young? hehe. Now, I can associate with most girls without putting too much emotion or energy, if I don’t think or plan long-term with them.
Maybe, you can HOOK-UP with her later on down the road, and do just that. Afterward, walk away. I don’t know; it does not look easy for you though. You seem very dramatic and seem to be crazy about her. I would use 3x IH + 1x AMMO, btw

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You got it, dude. I had a feeling.

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Wouldn’t take a word from it. Basically, she sees you as a doormat. If you want (eventually) to get a pity lay, go ahead. But you’re doing yourself no good. Show that you RESPECT yourself and that’s 100 times more powerful than the most poweful mones out there. Simple.

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I’ve been all three people in that situation. I’ve been you, her, and the bf.

Nobody walks away unscathed. Find a girl who want a to be with you even just for fun and be transparent about it. Being a Patsy sucks.

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It is funny how Pherotalk is becoming more of a forum for teenagers and college students looking for some advice about getting women, lol.

Seriously though, it would have been really nice to have a place like this - not to mention AMMO - when I was that young. You young-guns don’t know how much the world has changed, for better or worst, in the past 10 to 15 years. Numerous technological advancements, even in that short span, is just mind-buggling :open_mouth: I didn’t even know what the internet was until I was like 15, lol

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It’s absolutely wonderful.

For me though, all my hookups are COMPLETELY unplanned. When I’m not trying to hook up with anybody at a party is when I end up bringing a girl back to my room. Weird.

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Couldn’t agree more

Most importantly, respect yourself by having people around who appreciate you for you and not for personal gains.

there is a saying in arabic that goes like this
“whoever lets one person walk over him, he shouldn’t complain if everyone else volunteered(to disrespect him)”

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Im going to tell you straight up, first stop going gaga over this girl. but on some tuth get agressive, bone her and ignore her. she wants to be used so use her. youre young do it!once youre older then you got to worry about stds and other bs. Just do it and wrap it up. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I won’t be so assuming as to flat out say she’s using you. She could see you as a guy to stroke her ego, she teases and flirts and turns you on, and just knowing that could give her a sense of validation and satisfaction.
On the flip side (not to give you any kind of false hope) she could also see you as having potential, But not really feeling right cheating on, or even dumping her boyfriend.

In either case here’s the deal, so long as she thinks she’s the only girl you might be interested in, or the only girl that might be interested in you…it’s gonna continue.
LET GO and go meet other women, friend zone the fuck out of her. If she’s actually interested, seeing you dating or at least flirting with other women will make her realize you are NOT the consolation prize to be claimed if stuff doesn’t work out with her current BF (which btw it won’t 2 years is a LOOOOONG time to expect a woman to wait) and she’s going to see the difference between how college aged young men act compared to teenage boys. She’ll dump him, maybe for you, maybe some other guy, maybe just because she wants to fuck the whole football team with a clear conscience…but it’s gonna happen.

Bottom line she feels safe with you, to a degree that’s good but not this much. She’s taking you for granted. She just figures you’ll always be there for when she’s ready and so long as that’s true, she won’t have to make a hard decision…show her that that’s not the case.

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I disagree.

Why are you encouraging him to lower himself to her level when he can act better and move on?

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I think this should be in every man’s mind at all times, not just when he gets older :roll_eyes:. Once you get STD = GAME OVER; even Mystery says that in his book

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On the contrary, no not at all. I like her, but I understand she has a boyfriend, and I’ll get with another girl in a heartbeat, wouldn’t care for a moment what she thinks. Just, when a beautiful girl is telling her friends that “I’d f*** the sh** outta him if I didn’t have a boyfriend. He’s so hot” (I believe that was the direct quote), and you overhear it, you gotta listen.

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I’m sorry dude. I don’t play the jerk. I HAVE been called a douchebag though in the past.

I’m leaning towards forgetting about her, and when/if she wants me to bone her, suddenly remember her.

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because hes young and sounds like the type to go head over heels for the wrong girl. I dont mean to be a dick, but this girl certainly isnt the type of girl to date. Shes cheating on her bf, and if he ever winds up dating her shes going to cheat on him. So why bother trying to date this girl, it sounds like he has an easy In to sleep around with her, so do it. just dont fall for her. Hes young, aren’t there so many times when you think back that you think to yourself. “damn if i knew what i knew now, i would have just slept with her when i had the chance and moved on”. well i think he should take the opportunity, just be safe, and make sure he doesnt not in the slightest fall for this girl after.

shes not a good girl, so you either sleep with her, or you walk away

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Vivid, I think he has already fallen for her, or why would he even come to this board and post something here- which he hasn’t done for six months, lol- to get some advice how to get her? Also, lakerman, do you have to really embarass other Lakers fan out there.. hehe… just kidding on that one

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I agree 100% +10%. Im 28 if a girl is too easy i walk away. Run most of the time. Thats because if a girl is a slut at the age of 28 that means shes been with hundreds of guys. If a girl is a slut at 18 that means shes been with 5-6 guys. 5-6 guys isnt alot and though theres always chance of anyone having anything, theres a better chance at having no std at 5-6 guys then there is at hundreds of guys.

ALWAYS WRAP UP! but when your 18 in my eyes its ok to get a girl whos been around a bit. once you get to about 22 then you dont just wrap up but you start running from the slutty girls.

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That’s a lot of assumptions there bro. The OP even states she said she’d fuck him IF she didn’t have a boyfriend. Like I said, she may just be teasing for attention (understandable if she stuck being faithful to a BF that’s not around) or she actually likes him and is just conflicted. I think if he went for it and tried to fuck her it could go a few different ways. She get’s spooked and loses comfort with him, realizes how close she came to doing something that she wouldn’t respect herself for and she stops talking to him altogether. Or they do fuck, she feels guilty and gets buyers remorse. In which case with some odd sort of chick logic she dumps the boyfriend, BUT won’t go out again with the guy responsible…he’s just a reminder of her being unfaithful, besides which he might see her as a disloyal type and not respect her anymore, so she finds a third guy to start a clean slate with.

Avoid this mess altogether by going after somebody else. If she’s not serious about you then hooray you’re not wasting your time on a dry well and you’re with a girl that’s actually interested.
If she IS serious, then you force her to grow up and take some personal responsibility for her own relationships and make a damn choice. Which is frankly what’s best for her, you and the young guy that thinks she’s true blue in love with him even though she’s surrounded by frat guys and he’s still living with mom and dad.

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HAHA

But for real, last year (freshmen year) I did hookup with a few girls. BEAUTIFUL girls. Then I walked away. It’s been a while since I actually liked a girl. And, you know, you start questioning yourself, and one friend is telling you to do one thing, another friend is telling you to do another, you got no clue. That’s when I turn to you guys :stuck_out_tongue:

I appreciate every single comment. But yeah, I’m gonna see what I can get at my frat parties, forget about her, and unless she straight up tells me that shit’s going down or she dumps her boyfriend (which, I forgot to mention, they hardcore in love apparently, even though she hates talking about him in front of me), I’m not going to friend zone the shit outta her. I’m simply not gonna talk to her.