3 full hours to read through 18 pages of intense research! Okay 2 reasons why I’m here : Thank you because I have learned a tremendous amount. Probably more than a full day of studying! The second reason is that I seek to tap onto your huge pool of mones knowledge! You said if you could only pick 3 products from AD, it would be IH, IS and A314? Sounds like I’ll be needing serious cash! Okay, so I wanted to ask you what are the products you would recommend if I want to encourage light - medium flirting from girls? Also, I want to make myself feel confident when I’m talking to girls. Please bear in mind that I am only 21. Any input on the dosage would be great too. And is there a way to pick the scent of the product that I’m buying? I would like to try the akuto scent instead of the neroli (orange) that I had with my previous IS and IO purchase. And from what I have learned through your journal, it’s unwise to wear mones every single day? I have only been off the mones for like 1 day each fortnight.
Hiya Gotha!
In general terms, yes, I’d pick those big three. For specifics, such as work or command roles, A314 oil or the same effect with a diminished time frame, A314/b spray.
Encourage light flirtation… well, I’d go with IS and AMMO. Even with the IS by itself, I notice that you can push it around easily to provoke the vibe that YOU want… You mention your age and For the IS, I’d suggest the 2x strength and just wear 1 spray to start. The AMMO, yes, 1 spray to start.
Bump it up to see if you can have more/better results.
YES, daily application is fine… though, you do need to schedule yourself for some mone - less days as well. I just need to make sure that those days aren’t ones where it would be very beneficial to use A314!!! For a meeting with client bigwigs, for example.
I’d suggest you use your mones several days straight to observe the reactions of others that are:
- Family and close friends, co-workers that you deal with constantly
- Friends, and those you don’t talk to on a daily basis
- People you hardly know or are strangers.
Then, you can start increasing your dosage to compare the effects from 1 spray… It’s a bit tedious but helps out in the long run on the best way to combo and use the mones you have!
TAC - Pushing things over the edge to a happy place! 
3 x A314 oil
2 x IO*2
1 x TAC (10 mu)
Well, here’s some observations from TAC, A314 oil, and IO.
I applied A314 in the morning, @ 9:00 am before heading out. 3 drops total, with 1 behind each ear and one split between my hairline on my forehead and back of the head. I also used 2 spritz’ of IO, one to the wrist and one to the back of the head. I usually simmer down the Alpha Vibe of the A314 with a social such as IS or IO for laid back times such as I was expecting on this day.
Spent the day with A, running errands and meeting up with friends. The errands weren’t particularly eventful, the people providing service were subtly inclined to provide deference and interest in our needs. A was somewhat chatty, more than usual, for sure. Speaking about the errands, friends, things to do on the weekend, making time to cleaning the homestead on the weekend(ugh…). I have a girl friend, we met up with her and was deferential to the A314, normally this is the case when I have A314. She is normally outgoing and talkative. She is still this way with A314, but, when I speak, she LISTENS… I like that about the A314… I mention this as I’ve observed this behaviour before with others and A314 as I’ll mention below.
We met up with a couple that we haven’t met in a about 6 months. They were back in town and we had some lunch with them. They were all bubbly about their travels and were sharing their experiences and pictures with us. He was more open and though older than me, would STOP and listen when I spoke or asked a question. She would do the same as well. I also found myself leaning into my A more and putting my arm around her chair as well. I didn’t think about it until afterward. I was more of a sharing with her these experiences and joys of our friends. It was cool!
Now, in the afternoon, we went out again and I didn’t re-apply any mones, though, she did apply 4 x IS*2… I asked, why that much and her response, I really want to shine this evening and gave me a smile and a wink… Several friends we met up with, were really talkative to her and trying to be around her. I was also participating in the convo’s but, did notice a friendly relaxed vibe that she radiated and men and women friends were drawn to. I was contented with being in her glow!
When we got home, I decided to try on the TAC on my chest, under my T Shirt as I was thinking about her wink… 
… Well, about 1 hour after application, watching a movie together on the couch… we didn’t finish the movie… the action went to the bedroom and I can see the TAC did it’s magic as she was actually sniffing the TAC on my chest application… she’d go back to it several times. She had multiple joys with the TAC!!!
So, things ended happily on this night!!!
Where the heck have you been
Hey there, P! Nice to know you care! Still with you guys, in spirit, as I don’t go far without my mones!!
Been a bit busy with crazy loads of close to 70 hour work weeks… a big project dropped in and has been sucking up my attention for a while. Usually get you’re type of response from my wife as well when I’m in the full throttle, work focused mode… 
When stuff like this happens, I gotta bring work home and basically eat and sleep for the project. We’re wrapping it up so, my workload has gone down somewhat. Got a bit of a breather until the end of this month when phase 2 starts to begin it’s slow, inexorable rollout.
I’ve been poking around a bit and see that I have quite a bit of catching up with your thread and several others.
I see you’ve all been busy mone bee’s!!!
Hey alpha!
Thanks for replying! And yeah…I was wondering where you’ve been too!
Hello Alpha,
Your thread is a mainn source of credibility for pheromones I have been reading. I just couldn’t believe how all these products here are given good support to use but lack a strong evidence foundation to support it. I have found uour posts to be the best.
However, I am also taking into consideration that you have been using this for more than 6 months now in the workplace. These are people you will see all the time. Can you elaborate on your experiences in your workplace before you used pheromones to give a good comparison of before and after? You may reference how this guy doesn’t normally do this or that, but he did to day.. But could you make a reply posting all the general differences you have notice?
Also, I think there is one more thing you can do to really help the crediability of pheromones since you have the mental fortitude of trying to objectively document your experiences. It is great to see you continue your documentatioof using different pheromones, but don’t you think it is time to document changes of not using pheromones for an extended period of time for a few months?
It is very hard to be objective in the use of something that makes changes very subtly or hardly noticable ways, but I think if your able to document not using pheromones for 6 months and then start it all over again and see if the effects are reproduce.. That would be the greatest evidence of benefits that pheromones can get.
Hey there! I’m honored that you have such an opinion of my journal. I can see others such as P51, The boogieman, Tisha’s, Radman, empath, and the gentleman, to name a few off the cuff, that have much more substance to the effects of mones before and after their use.
As to the before mones picture with some people at work… ok. I see several social bumps that can put a damper in mone responses. There are several people I’ve seen some influence… some others may be too subtle for my current observational abilities… or could be simply there is no effect. I have a particular position in my office. Being someone’s superior or manager, basically a higher up in the office hierarchy will cause a skew of the person’s response to mones because of my position. I have mainly focused on my own ‘higher ups’ as opposed to those down my food chain. At the very least, I see that they are much less likely to be forthcoming in there opinions possibly, so that it wouldn’t negatively impact their standings in our office. It’s a much better, though maybe not complete, response to mones when I’m with co-workers in a social setting, after work or on the weekend. You can see some changes, but, cannot be clearly attributed to the mones, though, I do have my suspicions.
I can exemplify with one person, who I know, before mones, 6 + months ago, who works in the accounting department. I don’t have any direct correlation in the office hierarchy with her. I’ve known her for almost 2 years prior to my mone usage. Asian, mid 30’s. She was very shy with me and barely uttered a good morning in response to my salutations. I took it as a given, I put a mental tag for her as “very shy and small talk is useless, move on after salutations”…
With usage of Instant Shine, IH, IO, basically, the social line up mones around her, I have her speaking and SMILING to me and with me! She started out with some small, shy smiles and a bit more to her responses. Now, I mean, she is still naturally shy and may not start a conversation with me, but, WILL now respond beyond a muttered hello or good morning… She is MUCH more confident to approach me and talk. Small talk, when she is getting a refill on her tea, or out behind her desk, she’ll very occasionally come over to my cabin and just talk for a bit. This went from avoidance to more of a friendly acquaintance…
Is this an immutable sign of the social mones in actions? Would I have gotten to this point without the mones? I’m inclined to say yes it is sign to this and I would have NOT gotten to this point without the HELP of mones.
Curious that you mentioned it as I’ve had some thoughts on stopping my mone usage and documenting it as well. Not sure about that yet. To be decided!
I have tested out a bottle of Neroli perfumer’s spray against my Neroli laced Instant Shine and IO. I can tell every time on myself if I’m using the mones. I can also see, when I’m out and about, the effects of IS or IO as opposed to using Neroli only around those workers. Tested on employee’s at Whole Foods and a Von’s in the neighborhood… I think, having the same scent with and without mones is also a good way to test out mones…
Don’t sell yourself short, this Journal is awesome
Thank you Alpha, I’ll have to look into those other journals as well. I think if I had your experiences I would have the same mindset as well and I respect the way you express yourself on pheromones. You have definitely help me take an interest in the use of them.
And the fun continues…
I got the MX 405-407 combo pack in the mail and have tried 405. Just to anchor it down with a known value, which is A314 oil, 2 drops to the back of the ears. Did get some random starts in convo’s with a sales agent from my office during the drive to a clients. Spent @ 40 minutes drive and I’d ask questions about his family and last trip to Asia and would be animated for a while then, even with follow up questions pertaining to the conversation, he’d let the convo go. I’d have to ask again, something else work related and he’d start up with the answer and extraneous comments as well.
The clients a late 40’s CEO and a mid-40’s gal, both Caucasian, were a bit stand offish at the beginning of the appointment, but, got out of their shells of deflection fairly quickly feeling confident in our answers and help. I will let the client know of other options and alternatives that can help his business even if it doesn’t pertain to what I’m offering. This helped out in getting some comfort and confidence levels increased…
I had applied 2 sprays to my wrists and top of hands before leaving with the sales agent and about 1 hour later, applied another 2 sprays just prior to entering with the client.
Convo’s did seem to spike, recede, and come back strong. Not sure if this was the mones, as this also could have been the clients tendency as I haven’t met them before this. I’ll have to check again on the next visit.
In self effects, I did notice that my convo’s, small talk and sharing my thoughts without feeling guilty about being too blunt, had increased. Glad the client was laid back and relaxed enough toward the end of our meeting to enjoy the convo’s and take it as a bonding buddy, buddy experience. Smiles came easily after the initial @ 5 minutes of uncertainty on their part.
Likely will have to start up a thread on these MX’s…
I love this thread. Sure you don’t want me to move it for yah?
Hey Steve! Yeah, Lets do THIS!!!
Don’t you go deleting posts, ya hear? 
You are now search engine and prying eyes free. Have to be a registered member to view it. So post all your naughty bits here for the rest of us to read
That was one of the products that I looked at when I started looking into mones. I read some of the scientific quotes and continued to search for reviews, that is honest ones, of the products and that’s what led me here and to continue to try these mones.
I also have put in orders at love scent and at phermones . com. One of the quotes from Kohl, a poster on these forums, was on that Nexus site.
Human pheromones: integrating neuroendocrinology and ethology – Kohl JV, Atzmueller M, Fink B, Grammer K
I cannot believe as many times I have read your journal that I never actually posted in it before. How odd!
Kid magnet… with close friends verbal diarrea
You are one odd duck!
Ok…
Here we go again…
I used the following package, A314 oil, A314/b, couple of IS and a couple of TAK… wanted to see how mellow and tamed the A314 would be with the TAK, and got…
The scenario:
At the park with a friends and family gathering… many friends as it was a bit of a mini carnival atmosphere for the youngen’s… games, jumper, burgers and pie…
Application points:
2 D of A314 behind the ears
2 Sprays of A314/b on the top of my hands and wrists
2 Sprays of IS*2 on my forearms
2 sprays of TAK (10 mu ea for total of 20 mu)
Application Time:
@ 1 hour before arriving
Temps:
@ 85 F
Humidity:
@ 30%
Feeling fine, though, the park location was changed at the last minute. The day before, the park location was changed but my A and I weren’t told… fell through the cracks and she was peeved. I was a bit irritated because of this as well. We got there a bit late, but, all was good once we saw everyone as we walked into the group of tables where everyone was sitting. The response was warm to our arrival and all confusion and irritated feelings dissipated.
Had some good, relaxed convo’s going on. Had our burgers, salad and chips and were all relaxed and at ease. Hadn’t seen a few friends in a few weeks and this was catching up time. Did find that these friends at first, would smile, but not hold eye contact with me for long. As the convo’s continued, these friends would fall into a comfortable posture… were a bit stiff at first, body language, and would open up, unconsciously as the time together progressed. Mid 30’s couples and mid 40’s couples Hispanic and Caucasian. I was being told things about their likes and dislikes. From tattoos, to healthy food suggestions, to child rearing… It was all over the place. Don’t usually get ALL of this in such a short time span. Usually, after a few drinks and a bit more time than just starting out with lunch!
@ 2.5 hours after application:
I went to play fetch with the dog and wanted to wear her down some…
Found myself surrounded by a several kids all of them I knew… from 3 years old up to 9 or 10. @ 6 or 7 of them. They all wanted to play fetch. So, I’m trying to make order from their chaos. I explained that they can each throw the ball at let the dog fetch it. When she comes back, I’ll let another one toss it.
Didn’t quite work out that way! One of the older kids, would throw the ball, the dog would bolt after it, and the whole troop would chase after dog! Obviously, they wouldn’t be able to get to the ball before the dog and then come back screaming, yelling and laughing as they pretended that the dog was chasing them. It was hilarious…
After some time doing this… those kids are unstoppable… then, they wanted me to carry them…ALL of them… and was basically, able to carry 5 kids, take a few steps and we’d all fall over. After several attempts at this, we were all sitting on the grass, the dog panting away, and one of the little girls, blurts at me that I smell very good, like her dad. She’s @ 7 or 8 years old. I was like the pied piper with all the kids following me around.
Interesting was a kid from the Park, I didn’t see where he came from, came over to where we were and was just observing us. I waved at him and he waved back as the gang of tikes ambushed me again, trying to knock me down… While I was distracted, he’d walked closer to the plastic bag of dog toys and took a tennis ball. When I looked up at him, he was walking away sort of quickly with his hands under his shirt. Once I glanced at the bag, I saw what he took.
I walked toward him with my ensamble following and yelling and jumping. I shouted after the boy, Jerome, as I later found out, and said, “Hey, the dog is ready for your throw now. Go ahead and throw the ball and she’ll bring it back to you!!!” and smiled at him. He was startled, about 9 years old, but did as I suggested. He then started playing fetch with the dog with the kids around me now getting back to the chasing the ball, chasing the dog, and then pretending the dog was chasing them. Jerome, after telling him he’s a natural with dogs and playing with them, told me he always wanted to have a dog but his dad always tells him they can’t have one in his apartment. He then apologized and thanked me for letting him play with the dog.
Went to play with some older kids and teenagers some basketball. Some other adults were there as well. Worked up a little sweat. Would get the ball tossed often and I was one being asked about game play and strategy as we played a half court game.
This was about 4 hours after application.
All in all a respect, relaxed and mellow combination… Very much a Kid Friendly mix, at least on me.
Damn you 1Alpha! This is why I dislike your journal because unlike most of the others I can kind of peruse right on through, I always find myself glued to the page to read your entire post.
TOTW vote from me for sure.
I agree this is one of my favorite journals
Likewise!