Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!

[1Alpha]

@pheromojo

I’m interested in your results for a -none OD. That sounds exciting!

I only tried to OD once with just 3 togo shots of ammo and just got ghosting except from the people that know me well… They didnt seem any different.

I also need to do a little more studying. I feel behind. When I first joined I was up for hours at a time browsing the forum, and I havent been doing my homework recently. 1Alpha, here you go already buying putatives and putting a bunch more on your wish list, and I dont have a clue what they are even supposed to do. I wish there was a complete guide on the different putatives out. All the “guides” are scattered and incomplete, it seems to me.

Hiya pheromojo! Yeah, life happens! I’m just pushing myself to go forward and test, test, test!!! I’ve just been trying to be creative and adding mones to test in different environments.
Also, for the forum, I have a couple of forums I belong to besides this one. So I’m pretty active in online forums as it was already. It helps at work that I have 3 monitors for me to put up Google Chrome on one with all of the forums I’m interested in posting to.
THIS ONE, is always checked first!!! Luv the stuff!

I spoke with Steve on the P’s and asked which does he need more testing on. We spoke on several but as there have already been multiple reports on them, I wanted to try one out that I can ‘cut’ my teeth on and AD would want more testing. That’s where my P114 order came to be. I think it’s so much better when you are attuned to the hits with the commercial line, you can really notice the effects of the P’s that you test out.
On top of that, not having the bias of trying to mold the P your testing out to what others have already reported is helpful. At least for me, at this time, it’s helpful!
Hey, you’ve got so much you’ve learned in a short time…we all need to keep learning… it’s a never ending process…:")

[samuraitea]

@1Alpha

Yesterday was a BAD day for IG testing…

Burnt Instant Gentleman
IG x 3 spray

App Points:
Both sides of neck and top of head. Pre-applied through out the day, 3 x on same application points. @ 3 hours between apps trying to override the burnt! Applied 4 times during the day.

Venue:
Drive to office and client

Temp:
@ 80 degrees F. High clouds and sun - Humidity @ 30%

Application Time:

8:00 am

Self Effects:

Woke up feeling spent. I was a bit groggy but usually, the morning shower, gets me back into it. Not much this time. Pre-p, was out of it. I applied the IG and prep’d a quick breakfast, some tea, toast with feta cheese. Not a change of self effects. I was getting caught up with email when the BAD day for IG happened! Basically, was at my office and caught a whiff of an odor. It smelled like a burning… I immediately realized that my slices of bread were burning up in the toaster! I found basically a smokey kitchen and dining room. I found one of the smaller pieces of toast burned to a crisp. Though the other 2 were fine and had a very quick breakfast of them! I took out the offending burnt toast and turned on the whole house fan, opened windows and basically, had a BAD start for the day! Unfortunate mistake!!! I spent the last of my morning time with this and then left.

Effects on Others

When I was talking to people that I’ve known for a while, they did mention an odor. They said it smelled like something had burnt. I had smelled the odor on me when I left the house and in the car, but after opening the windows I thought it was gone! But, I just got used to it. Basically, the burnt odor from the toast had impregnated my clothes and that overwhelmed other scents and I assume it did the same with the mones. Even by the end of the day I asked if they smell anything unusual, some people I interacted with would say an almost indistinguishable burnt smell!
Only had convos’ on ‘what is that smell?’ and had people smiling about my goof up!
NOTE: Will an overpowering odor like this burnt smell negate the mones? Got to test that out further.

lol I am really sorry Alpha, but this totally reminds me of the Office episode when Ryan burnings his toast and everyone thinks it was a real fire sorry about that though

[pheromojo]

Ya alpha, I completely know what you mean. I wish I had more time to chill on the forums but Im not so lucky with a job on a nice computer like you have Nevertheless I try to get on here as much as I can.

I’ll be ordering p83 tomorrow. Yep, I’m taking the plunge into the experimental mones, and I’m pretty excited about it. I’ll be sure to post my findings when I reach some conclusions.

[samuraitea]

how is the P114 testing coming along? I miss your updates Alpha!

[1Alpha]

@samuraitea

how is the P114 testing coming along? I miss your updates Alpha!

LOL! I’ll be posting today, just got hectic that’s all…

Thanks for the post, feels good that I’m not typing to myself…

[1Alpha]

I’m going to need to order another IG. I met a friend who is quite reserved and asked if he can try on new cologne I’ve been using and I haven’t decided if I like it or not. I had IG, and wanted to see what his reaction would be. He said sure, and I sprayed his wrist with a blast. He smelled it an liked it! We talked about colognes for a minute or so and he asked if my TOGO was a sample bottle if I can get him one because he loved the scent. Well, basically, I had already started with this one, so it isn’t full, but if he wanted to try it out, I suggested he apply it on his wrists and pulse point on his neck.

He was very grateful for the IG, but now, I’m left without IG for testing!! I’ll see if he wants to order some, I’ll give him the website address…

I’ll have to get back to IG at a later time… I was liking the soft Alpha effects…
layering with AMMO I could see this as a great combo!

I just saw the 1300+ views for this thread?!?!? Thanks guys and gals! That’s crazy cool!!!

[Onedzguy]

How considerate of you. You may want to order a 30ml bottle and several empty togo spray bottles. That way you have one in the car, one in the desk at work and another in your briefcase. ODG

[samuraitea]

Alpha you are a really good person! Dang, the only people who know I use mones are you guys and my Family. They harass me, but they just don’t see what mones have done for me! Not to mention it is so much fun, I wish I could get more people into my game but I think you need to pick and choose who is worthy to be anointed in Pheromones!

[1Alpha]

@Onedzguy

How considerate of you. You may want to order a 30ml bottle and several empty togo spray bottles. That way you have one in the car, one in the desk at work and another in your briefcase. ODG

That’s good! I hadn’t thought about setting up my own togo bottles with a 30ml. Like my P114, 30ml, I just take the big bottle with me wherever I go, while testing.

I’ll look into that as I’ve not done that before… this will go toward my mixing in a bottle research to find the perfect scent for my significant other!!!

[1Alpha]

@samuraitea

Alpha you are a really good person! Dang, the only people who know I use mones are you guys and my Family. They harass me, but they just don’t see what mones have done for me! Not to mention it is so much fun, I wish I could get more people into my game but I think you need to pick and choose who is worthy to be anointed in Pheromones!

Hey tea!

Thanks for the compliment! I know this guy, a young man, who has that social awkwardness that gets to me. I feel for the guy as I recall having similar issues in junior high and some of my high school. I know he can open up and bloom if he has that support from older friends like myself. I’ve known him and his family for many years. They are like family to me!

Yeah, I ordered an instant openness togo for the guy and will let him know about the mones and ordering for himself next time I see him. He should have exhausted his IG by then for sure and I can ask him about what his reactions were during the INFORMAL IG testing. He told me he was going to try the IG until it ran out.

[1Alpha]

Ok, here is another combo.

4 drops x A314
2 x IS *2 strength
3 x IH *2 strength
2 x TAA - 40 mu
2 x TAF - 10 mu

Had some interesting hits! This was about 1/2 hour after application. I was at a gathering and some friends that I hadn’t seen in a long time were there. As soon as I greeted them, they were VERY happy to see me. Hugs and kisses sort of thing. Not like that with these friends but he was like, hug, hold my hand with both of his while we shake, sort of thing. His wife, was hugs and kiss on the cheek! Was a bit taken aback!
Their kids, little girl about 8 and younger son, about 4 were also all over me with hugs and asking questions about my family and pets… They were both vying for my attention… I knelt down to be at there level while I talked to them about school and there favorite dessert. A few other kids came over and it seemed like I was Mr. Rogers or something! I had a total of 5 kids talking to me and I was asking them similar questions about who was their favorite super hero, dessert (again!). There age ranges was 4 to 10 was the oldest girl. 3 boys and 2 girls. One of the boys showed me how he makes a paper boat and was using it as a hat…

I get along with kids and give them direct attention as well, but this time, it was a bit overwhelming. Not until we went to have lunch at the table did they get to their seats their parents designated. But, even during and after had the attention of the kids! They asked me questions and looked for approval for things they were playing after lunch. (Should he REALLY only count to 10 for Hide and seek? type of questions)

Some of the parents, gave me some big smiles, the mom’s were happy, I think to get several minutes reprieve from their kids!

Had respect hits from older friends paying attention when I spoke (body shifts toward me, eyes focused on me, etc) and seemed that my comments had more weight in there eyes. 3 to 4 drops of A314 seem to give me a much greater Alpha vibe with older folks.
Convos’ were loose and easy to continue them. Normally this is the case, just seemed more of a relaxed and happy vibe going on all around.

Cool get together!!!

[1Alpha]

Oh… I just ordered a large bottle of AMMO… I still have my TOGO…BUT… I’m liking the boost it gives to A314 when combo’d… I’ll have to try it out some more… with the 30ml bottle, regular strength AMMO when I get it on Wednesday, more than likely…

Eventually, when I get more IG, I want to compare the AMMO + IG to A314 and A314 + IS… Pickup the differences in these combos…

Love testin’!!!

[pheromojo]

I cant wait to hear the differences you find from the ammo and gentleman vs a314. Fortunately 1 drop of a314 is about the same pheromone content(in mcgs) as the combined sprays from ammo + gentlemen(1 each respectively)

I’ll be checking back soon!

[1Alpha]

Thanks, pheromojo, for that bit of knowledge!

Yeah, just checked, I’ll be getting my AMMO tomorrow…

IG, hope to get another TOGO for testing with AMMO on this order or the one I have at the lab that I should get possibly, end of the week…These are the P’s that I ordered with different scents to try them out!

[1Alpha]

Oh… I usually use 2 drops and have gone up to 4 drops of A314…

So, IG+AMMO, I’ll have to tweak how many sprays get me to a George Clooney…

[1Alpha]

Today I used a commercial mix:

4 x A314
3 x AMMO
2 x IH2
2 x IS2
2 x IO

Applied at 5:15 am and refreshed with AMMO and IS @ 3 1/2 hours later.

Felt good to have the comfort of the A314 and AMMO. IS was doing it’s thing, feeling fine and @ 50 minutes after application, also saw this at my clients office in (2) guys, mid 40’s… Though very early morning, they were perky and talkative… normally, when I work with these guys, at least one of them, would be a bit run down and need coffee or a Monster Energy drink to get him into a functional condition.
He did have his Monster on his desk but didn’t touch his Monster while around my Social phero cloud and was a bit peppy in convos and ready to work. This was within 3 feet of me and working together for around 10 minutes solid, then he would leave to take care of somethings and come back.

With another client, immediately after the 3 1/2 hour application of AMMO and IS, spoke with a receptionist who is a cute gal, hispanic/asian. She was laughing within 1 minute of my arrival and convos. I wasn’t particularly funny though, just trying to keep the convos light while I waited for my contact to come down.
When I left, I spent another 1 minute with her at the entrance and spoke with another employee who was just arriving. He didn’t know I was done and leaving, but he was about 4 feet away from me and was about to walk upstairs, when he doubled back and actually put out his hand for a handshake!!! We don’t normally with this guy shake, but I saw that he NEEDED to do this! He asked if I needed some help, I could go up with him upstairs and get started.

I let him know I was done and actually leaving and appreciated his stopping by with me and offering his help. He gave me a shy smile and said bye.
The receptionist was twirling her hair, looking at her monitors and looked up when I was done with that employee. She beamed at me and we spoke briefly and I left.
Now, when I got in my car, I was setting up my phone and bluetooth when the gal who had been in my phero cloud for several minutes, about 3 to 5, on a previous visit to this client at night, saw me in the car and waved and smiled at me as she walked into the reception area.
At that time when she was in my phero cloud of A314 and IS, we were a group of people just talking and I could tell she was looking intensely at me. She would have had that in mind, because she seems to be in all pre -mone interactions be very shy and reserved. Wouldn’t wave, much less smile like she did to me when we weren’t in direct contact. Normally, she would be keeping her head down and go in to the reception area. An attitude, of ‘hopefull, nobody noticed me’.

Will post if any other observations of this application.

Still felt awake and ready to take care of business, even though I got up at 4:00 am. We’ll see how the rest of the day plays out.

Was a bit worried about using 10 x of P114 so early in the morning…I’m inclined to think that at these 80 mu and above levels, I;m mentally numbed and don’t have a care for others, neither good or bad, just indifferent…

[samuraitea]

@1Alpha

Today I used a commercial mix:

4 x A314
3 x AMMO
2 x IH2
2 x IS2
2 x IO

Applied at 5:15 am and refreshed with AMMO and IS @ 3 1/2 hours later.

Felt good to have the comfort of the A314 and AMMO. IS was doing it’s thing, feeling fine and @ 50 minutes after application, also saw this at my clients office in (2) guys, mid 40’s… Though very early morning, they were perky and talkative… normally, when I work with these guys, at least one of them, would be a bit run down and need coffee or a Monster Energy drink to get him into a functional condition.
He did have his Monster on his desk but didn’t touch his Monster while around my Social phero cloud and was a bit peppy in convos and ready to work. This was within 3 feet of me and working together for around 10 minutes solid, then he would leave to take care of somethings and come back.

With another client, immediately after the 3 1/2 hour application of AMMO and IS, spoke with a receptionist who is a cute gal, hispanic/asian. She was laughing within 1 minute of my arrival and convos. I wasn’t particularly funny though, just trying to keep the convos light while I waited for my contact to come down.
When I left, I spent another 1 minute with her at the entrance and spoke with another employee who was just arriving. He didn’t know I was done and leaving, but he was about 4 feet away from me and was about to walk upstairs, when he doubled back and actually put out his hand for a handshake!!! We don’t normally with this guy shake, but I saw that he NEEDED to do this! He asked if I needed some help, I could go up with him upstairs and get started.

I let him know I was done and actually leaving and appreciated his stopping by with me and offering his help. He gave me a shy smile and said bye.
The receptionist was twirling her hair, looking at her monitors and looked up when I was done with that employee. She beamed at me and we spoke briefly and I left.
Now, when I got in my car, I was setting up my phone and bluetooth when the gal who had been in my phero cloud for several minutes, about 3 to 5, on a previous visit to this client at night, saw me in the car and waved and smiled at me as she walked into the reception area.
At that time when she was in my phero cloud of A314 and IS, we were a group of people just talking and I could tell she was looking intensely at me. She would have had that in mind, because she seems to be in all pre -mone interactions be very shy and reserved. Wouldn’t wave, much less smile like she did to me when we weren’t in direct contact. Normally, she would be keeping her head down and go in to the reception area. An attitude, of ‘hopefull, nobody noticed me’.

Will post if any other observations of this application.

Still felt awake and ready to take care of business, even though I got up at 4:00 am. We’ll see how the rest of the day plays out.

Was a bit worried about using 10 x of P114 so early in the morning…I’m inclined to think that at these 80 mu and above levels, I;m mentally numbed and don’t have a care for others, neither good or bad, just indifferent…

WOW! That is a killer combo! Honestly I am almost kinda shocked you didn’t OD or something like that 4 drops of A314 (some serious Alpha there) and AMMMO had to create an interesting signature! and P114 you are noticing dulling of you “care” emotions? Was that at that dose of 80mcg or in general?
Some really cool stuff! Alpha you got some crazy testing ideas! You imagination is really great with you (I am assuming you pocket isn’t sore from exercising some bills to fund all of this) but either way you got some great ideas to play with! PLEASE feel free to shoot me some things that I should/could or you (or anyone but you esp.!) play with!

[1Alpha]

@samuraitea

WOW! That is a killer combo! Honestly I am almost kinda shocked you didn’t OD or something like that 4 drops of A314 (some serious Alpha there) and AMMMO had to create an interesting signature! and P114 you are noticing dulling of you “care” emotions? Was that at that dose of 80mcg or in general?
Some really cool stuff! Alpha you got some crazy testing ideas! You imagination is really great with you (I am assuming you pocket isn’t sore from exercising some bills to fund all of this) but either way you got some great ideas to play with! PLEASE feel free to shoot me some things that I should/could or you (or anyone but you esp.!) play with!

Hey tea!

Well, I’m guessing that after 30, generally, you can go with 1 drop per 10 years of age! The AMMO is a great assist in confidence of knowing I’ll be interesting to others…
Also, I was bundled up somewhat as we Cali people aren’t too keen on the weather dropping under 60 degrees! Most of the time, I apply to my neck and hair while wiping my app points from my neck on my wrists. Not too sure if this makes a difference in the amount of -rone that can be applied. I’m pretty confident that my age, late 30’s to early 40’s range is the culprit of my tolerance of -rone.
The P114 goes down hill in me pretty quick after 50 mu. From 20 to 30 mu I’ve seen the best sharpness in self effects. Once I’ve COMPLETELY OD’d from it, I’ll be fine tuning it to where it’s best effect are for me.
I’ve yet to try a higher or lower dose at 80 mu. I’ll try that soon enough! Stay tuned!
Thanks for the compliments! I’m a relatively new mone user but I’m trying my best to get the most out of my arsenal! At the same time share with the community my experiences. I’ll help out the forum user’s however I can… I received a lot of help when I started so I’m returning the favor with interest!
I gotta re-read the link in my sig about how to know what are hits by Tisha once in a while to really try to pick up useful info on the mones effects.

I’ll post on ur journal, of course!

[samuraitea]

Well don’t let you newness hold you back! I am certainly not! You are experienced enough to test, know whats up, and have a decent array of materials to test! We both just got to keep it up, and move up with the big boys (obv. it will take some time) But imagine when we are on P51 and RADMAN’s level that’ll be CrAzY! So lets keep each other hype and push each other in this growing process and encouraging on the way up! I am game and I don’t see myself going anywhere to far from here (except moving up in the ranks )

[1Alpha]

Ok, today was a TOTAL AMMO day! Nothin’ but AMMO… I took 6 bullets every 5 hours starting at 8:00 am… ending at 6:00 pm…

So,

6 x AMMO (30 ml bottle, regular strength) with 3 applications during the day of the same amount!

Details forth coming…