That is why I suggested the idea of posting a password coded jpeg at the start of the experiment - I could download the jpeg and once he provides the password (after I had provided my results) I could open and the jpeg would say which product had pheromone.
Yes there is still some possibilities of messing with results there (like not actually putting which bottle has the phero’s in the jpeg at the start - putting putative phero’s or pheros with hard to quantify effects in the bottle like putting TAH in the bottle for a guy)
nobrain you are NOT banned at all. The system automatically throws a users posts into moderation when that user has negative reps accumulating regardless if deserved or not. We never ban anybody for have a dissenting opinion.
Personally while I disagree completely while you going into the new user section trying to dissuade my potential clients from discovering for themselves whether mones will help them or not. I don’t believe that is a fair shake at the wheel! You’re in business, would that be fair to your business if the over 12000 members here decided to start blogs on how your business was bad? I am surprised that you would take such a stance when you have a business venture that depends on readers and feedback.
Now I do understand you have taken me up on my offer to help and help I will. I’ll call you and together I am sure we can make a difference.
Do I agree with users posting hateful, remarkably useless and tasteless rep comments? No, but the system is anonymous and as demonstrated from these comments you have irked some members by your words.
So again, just to reiterate, I am always willing to help and here for members. LOL, that is, if I am feeling well:o. If you feel you have been jilted, robbed or hurt in any way, then that is your perception when really all you needed to do was put a call into someone more than willing to help. I’m sure, as a business man, you would agree that would be the proper way to respond, rather than try to discredit. Perhaps we can move past this now?
Nobrain, while you may not have literrally said “you are wrong” you have easily implied as such with just your attitude alone. Similar to when you ask your girlfriend “whats wrong” and she replies “nothing” dispite the fact steam is coming out from her ears.
I think it is clear via your constant messages of implying you will be banned and even your own expectations of being banned, that even though your intentions may be sincere, your people skills and general going abouts with your quest has not been well communicated. Most of your arguments have been done mostly through ignorance and based upon speculation, neither of which is a good thing.
Did you know that, to make chicken breasts bigger than what they are, some manufacturers dips them in a special solution so they take on more water? I could accuse all suppliers for doing this, based purely upon speculation.
I could then, take a purly defencive standpoint denying all thier statements with additional speculations. Even if they were to take you on an all expense paid trip to one of their processing plants, showing no evidence of such an act being conducted, you would simply conclude that they either hid this portion of the plant to you, or some other form of negative speculation. The fact is, to actually prove it is more simple. You goto a local chicken farmer and buy a breast of chicken from them, slaughtered in front of you if necessary. You take a measure of water content per 1cm squared and compare that to the water content of 1cm square of XYZ supplier.
You have simply come here to deny pheromones of any actuall effect with either a agenda against pheromones because you see it as some form negative substance or are simply filled with ignorance and denial of such a substance being real, which IS probably the case since the media like to portray human pheromones as a purely sexual stimulant when the actual results can be as minor as giving a person a more friendly appearance. (Friendliness Vs sexual).
You also appear to selectivly quote people and reject their claims, manipluating what people say and expanding it far beyond what is necessary, just to prove you are right. Want me to prove it? Tisha said she didnt work for AD and she doesnt make a dime, and you have to take a rather simple reply and twist it to the extreme to say that by the very fact of AD offering a ‘points’ system that she has therefore very likely recieve a benifit from AD.
Most ordinary people would clearly see her reply as a simple notion as to meaing “I do not work for AD, and therefore me supporting them is not because I am making money from them as an eployee or partner.”
The fact you have been banned from other sites is clearly from your lack of being able to reason with other people. I don’t think I’ve seen you capable of even agreeing with someone else, for making a valid point and basing an argument from it, you seem to have been only capable of forming arguements against it, even if the statement was a valid one.
I and others have already point out that your actual method of testing pheromones is not actually a test on pheromones at all, but a test for placebo, something we all agree with you on. Most of us know of and about the Placebo affect, we would much rather see you do tests with pheromones that prove the effect of pheromoens, such as spraying a public chair with it, and seeing if people prefer to sit in the chair that has been sprayed vs the one on the otherside of the room.
As per actuall posting your results, While making a thread about it like you have done with this perticular one is fine, but going into other people threads and making a debate about it being a placebo /non pheromone related is just disruptive. In addition what you ahve posted is not fact, its speculation - were you to conduct a proper test it would have been wiser to been more discreet about it by posting the restults as and when you have found them, rather than to cause a debate over speculation, which generally goes along these lines “I believe XYZ does this. I believe XYZ doesnt do that” i.e. 50:50 of mixed opinions
Now I found your topic interesting at first because I have been writing a report on Pherlure for being a scam which, I have mentioned a couple of times but try not to. And in this case, I have yet again had to bring it up but only because I will show a snippit of what I have wrote because it shows a level of fact vs speculation:
For the record, the quote inside the quote = from the fake pheromone site. Also it’s good to point out the fact that because there are lots of fake pheromone products that do not contain pheromones or enough to be effective is something that should be considered in reference to people posting about competitor products and using their products to test.
But you do put them on the “shit list”. Why was my thread about the “shit list” deleted? I know for a fact you use the “shit list” mod and I know for a fact you placed me on it. Like I said in that thread I work with web design and bulletins boards on a daily basis in my business and I know how bulletin boards work. There are cute little tricks people can use to find out certain things about bulletin boards that the owners of the boards don’t want members knowing about, such as the “shit list” and who’s on it. I used one of these tricks and did indeed confirm you have me on the “shit list” under my PapaWolf username and that you in fact did not just place my user name on the list but my IP address. What you didn’t consider was whether I have access to other IPs to use to re register so I can post without issues.
For starters, I have no idea why I was placed on the “shit list”. I did nothing wrong. I did NOT say anything against this company or it’s products or anyone here. Dude even supported me here:
I just received my Turn Up The Heat today and started my journal here:
so if the people here feel the need to place my new username and IP on the shit list I will be greatly hindered in posting my results with the products. I will be HONEST and totally truthful in all my posts. I DO hope they work as the lady I am seeking to rekindle a relationship with is VERY important to me. If they don’t work on the first try I will not simply come in and bash the product. I will post how I used the product and the effects and hope that others may be able to help me in the implementation of the products in order to have successful results. So placing me on the shit list again will only prevent another potentially happy customer from posting favorable reviews and hurt the reputation of the company.
Steve, to answer your question about signing on… if you are referring to Nobrain’s experiment, I have signed on and have been accepted. Once I receive the items I will indeed start a new journal to post my results with those.
For violating forum rules of creating ANOTHER user account this account is subsequently banned. In the good nature that I am I will keep your other account open but it will be in watched status. Quite frankly I’ve had enough of these infantile reactions and now I need to help users with issues.
I’ve never said this to anybody but I’m neg repping you for your attacks. Get over yourself and find some happiness in your life. Regardless of what mones you try I HIGHLY suggest counseling.
PAPA WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS, why do you constantly ignore the posts I make directed at you? Is it because they’re true and don’t know how to respond to them? I’ll repost my most recent one for you here.
This is a post you made on nobrain’s public profile.
Where are you getting your skepticism from because you clearly got positive results from using NPA, which is highly concentrated -none.
hey hey papawolf …
you can find your post about the shit list in the lounge section it was only moved not deleted… I also have been experiencing problems as well with clicking on links and then having a page load up saying it was a broken link and looooong load time for pages… I don’t think I am on this shit list I think its server problems…
I like you got pretty ralled up from this whole nobrain experience and I believed his motives in being true but had a big problem with his method. In most of his posts (from my point of view) he would use sly tactics to devalue AD and the people who had a different opinion… And he would purposely ‘mis’ read and make assumptions on what people would say, to me that suggests and ulterior motive other then just being a “night in shinning armour here to free us from the tyranny brought down upon by AD” (and if you look at couple of posts he mentioned how he thought of himself as a “crusader”). He seemed to me to be a bit like an egomaniac but that’s just my opinion, one this is obvious he has experience into manipulating people to distrust. Anyways, It sucks that while you were sticking up for some of the points he was trying to make I think through the madness you were perceived as one of his ‘associates’ and treated the same as he was… But I don’t think your on a shit list here.. you might be experiencing the same random problems I have been, anyways good luck with your testing I can’t wait to read your reports!!!
At this point I’d like to make an apology to everyone at PheroTalk for this inappropriate demeaning way this thread has taken. I wanted to ensure the spirit of Androtics was met and ensure John understood personally he was NEVER banned or put on this alleged shit list, so I placed a call to him.
He was clearly upset and while I tried to reassure him that he was never banned or on a shit list he made some very interesting claims. First he accused me of deleting his post, which is clear from the link and subsequent comments it never was deleted. He then told me he knew it was because he is an “experienced” forum guy. I asked him why then he was unable to find the post in his subscribed threads like any experienced forum guy would know. His reply was because it was deleted!
I asked him if he was searching for it in his “new online persona” and if that was the case indeed he would not find it since it was not subscribed to by the “new online persona” in the first place. Again I was told it was because I deleted it! I brought the fact that it was not deleted up again and asked if he searched for it in his normal user account. He said of he did, which led me to question if he was on this alleged “shit” list, then how was it he was able to use the search function. This time I was told it worked “sometimes”.
I did my best guys and when he accused me of “not liking him” I questioned this and asked him why I would send a bottle of 4X Ishine @$79.95 with International Shipping for free to someone I didn’t like. I wanted John to be happy. He again asked me then why did you delete my post: http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/very-professional-38325.html Once again (I know very patient huh) I asked John what his post, had to do with Men’s Pheromones Tips and Tricks? He said then where should I have posted it? I said there were other areas such as the lounge, maybe the store section but since it had nothing to do with pheromones I felt it was inappropriate to have it there and hence moved it. In hindsight it should be in the store section and I will move it.
John’s last comment to me after continuously rudely interrupting and speaking over me was “I Know you said that, but that don’t make it true.” My patience was tried and I said at this point John I am banning your accounts and terminating this call. Oh and I canceled the Ishine 4X with International shipping I was sending as a gift of good will to encourage world happiness . I am a patient man but ask anybody here, I do NOT lie and will not accept anyone calling me a liar. My integrity and honor is my word and I stand by it at all times.
Once again I apologize to the members of this community for having to deal with unreasonable, unhappy persons who are looking for anything to attack with. And to think by this persons admission they believed TUTH was the solution to their problems. Please there are more important things in this world like the terrible tragedy in Haiti.
I also want to address the issue of leaving neg reps that call someone hateful names like “fag,” which did happen to not John, but nobrain. That is not how this community operates. You will notice that I have no animosity towards nobrain and I encourage him to call and guess what, he did. He took me up on my offer and when we are able to connect I hope I can be of assistance to him. Repping is designed to be anonymous, but come on, keep the comments mature and helpful. That was just silly and not in the spirit of what we pride ourselves as a community.
Absolutely inappropriate ,non professional, and downright immature. I cant believe this individual hasn’t been banned because of spam. This forum is not the appropriate place for No-brain. Im glad I didn’t click it earlier because I was in a crowded university center. Spamming websites is what little high schoolers do. Nobrain, I find it strange that you have been trolling this forum for several days now.
I have nothing to do with whatever website you are referring to…? I am not spamming. My post are highly viewed and threaded, which is a good thing for this forum.
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. I am a patient man but ask anybody here, I do NOT lie and will not accept anyone calling me a liar. My integrity and honor is my word and I stand by it at all times.